edgecrusher said:

TV-Style Ads COming to Xbox Live15 - 30 second spots.

Well this is great fucking news. I can definitely see how this is going to push gaming innovation over the top going forward.

lolz if this is for Gold members.

edgecrusher said:

What does that have to do with anything? It would be a great exclusive 3rd party game. Plain and simple.

Some of you guys get a bit too butthurt when anyone questions anything Nintendo does.

FYI when I said the games wouldn't 'count' I was referring to Vaders internal studio definition.

You misunderstand me. What I'm saying is that when Nintendo do get a great exclusive 3rd party game everyone ignores it and says that there is nothing but Mario and Zelda. It's a pet peeve of mine that other companies can pump out sequel after sequel and usually at a faster rate than Nintendo does - one home console zelda every 4 or 5 years? And they get no criticism at all.

Like you said, it's okay for MS to milk Halo? That gets a free pass because they get 3rd party support? 3rd parties need to choose to support Nintendo but you can't them blame them for producing more Mario when the 3rd party support isn't there.

When MGS5 gets announced no one will quibble. When DMC5 gets announced no problem (other than the developer). Assasins Creed 5 - no problem. Halo 6 no problem etc. You can't bitch about one without bitching about the other without being hypocritical. And calling people butthurt is kinda harsh man, I don't expect that from you.

edgecrusher said:

And btw....Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin are not "new" franchises...they are over 10 years old. And as for all the casual crap, that's not even in the disgussion for me. There's no point in anyone bringing those into the argument because that stuff is in a different universe, just as all the Kinect crap on Xbox and some of those PS3 casual games are.

New as in not Mario and Zelda.

Everyone focuses on Mario and Zelda and ignores other stuff, for instance Vader stating that Pikmin was the only other new franchise in a decade? Luigi's Mansion released round about the same time, yet forgotten. Nintendo also did stuff like Wave Race and 1080 Snowboarding that people seem to forget about. And you may like to ignore the "casual crap", lots of other people find great value in some of those games. There are people where who have enjoyed Wii Sports, or Wii Fit or Nintendogs.

Nintendo may keep producing Mario and Zelda, but they are still producing Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars and more - whilst still commissioning Another Code, Eternal Darkness, Endless Ocean, Hotel Dusk and more. They are not a two game company, which is the impression many people give off.

edgecrusher said:

It would be nice if they would stop relying on them so much and focus more on either reviving lesser known games and bringing them up to that level (maybe Kid Icarus?) or creating more new IP on that level.

That's what they just did with Kid Icarus man. According to reviews the game has more depth than most console titles and production values on par with Wii. It's a hardcore game, from a first party. They did it already.

Thanks Foolz, Bugsie, Archie, Steel, Travo, Leo, Dvader for the birthday wishes. My nephew decided to blow the candles on the cake and spat allllllllllll over it in the process. Imagine my face when I had to eat it with everyone watching.

bugsonglass said:

Strictly speaking Insomniac is not a first-party, they're just comissioned to do exclusives by Sony.  They're a free company though they can choose what and for whom to develop.

I think the first party Sony Studios are Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule and all the ones with SCE in front of them.  Don't know which ones you consider "internal" out of those and which not, your distinction seems somewhat vague

edit:  Right, I wrote that before I saw your edit where you clarify your definition

Yeah it's getting F-ed up now, if you go by the "acquired, already existing outside of" distinction then Sony and MS's first parties shrink drastically.

edgecrusher said:

I think it would be incredibly healthy for them, creativity-wise, to work on some major new games also. Games that are not just fresh gameplay-wise, but also character and setting-wise....story, everything right down to square one. Who wouldn't be excited to see that if you call yourself a games fan?

Everyone would like it, if the game is good. Unfortunately Pikmin, whilst it didn't bomb or anything the sequel didn't do too good 1.2 million and the first game put up like 1.63 million sales. That's good for a 3rd party game on a Nintendo platform, but compared to Nintendos Mario and Zelda 4-5 million selling titles?

You can't just have new IP, you have to have successful new IP. Nintendo's problem is that they need to keep flinging mud at the wall till it sticks. Instead they throw a couple of handfuls of mud and show's over.

Dvader said:

Well I dont mind if they use the samee franchise if they totally change it up. Sci-fi Zelda. Do it!

THAT'S IT! YOU HAVE PUSHED ME TOO FAR

robio said:

Well i just had the scare of my life. Child Protective Services came to my home tonight. Apparently my 5 year old told a teacher we punched him in the stomach and she had us reported. They had to interview all of us separately, and it seems they are convinced that he was just telling a story (rest assured we've never laid a hand on him). No shock, since this is the same kid who told us a vampire bee flew through his head and he fought a 150 pound snake on playground. Still it's scary as hell that an over zealous teacher could have possibly destroyed my family with just a phone call.

Insanity.

Dvader said:

I hope GG had an awesome birthday and that is why he is not on lately.

Babysitting and wasting 5 hrs in Ikea, then 6 hours the next day furniture making is why. And driving to the dump.

Dvader said:

Adam Sessler left G4, wow.

I liked Sessler.

robio said:

Oh Sony. . . you can't keep copying a Nintendo's ideas. It's not going to fix anything.

LBP Racing looks fun-ish. Great news for Fire Emblem, I would love to see an adventure game with Fire Emblem trappings. I just took Renais back in the Sacred Stones and I'm levelling up weapon power so my team can use the legendary weapons.

Dvader said:

GI Article:

Xenoblade Chronicles is an amazing game. T

This guy is nuts, Wii U is out this year and is about to be shown in about 6 weeks or something. Why is he writing this ranting editorial like we already don't know what kind of graphics to expect from it?

Bearing in mind that the game was completed and released almost 2 years ago (June 2010 in Japan) and it was in development before then....

Play Xenoblade on a good SDTV, it's a jaggy mess on HDTVs but can look pretty great in SD, depending on the area. Bionis Leg looks pretty awesome but Sword Valley will look like a turd on any TV. Xenoblade is doing environments that are rivalling or surpassing the size of many 360 games with free movement, not set camera angles and small walking areas. It has to have lower textures to manage the scale.

The guy even complains about lip syncing.

What PS3/360 game apart from La Noire has lip syncing that isn't utter shite. I'd say it actually stands out more on PS3/360 because otherwise the graphics are more realistic.

New DQ10 trailer, it looks decent

This is real and releasing soon.

LOL, is that the Dead Rising mall in Project X Zone?

What is this? No road so it can't be a bus shelter? Just a shack?

Good to see you GG buddy

I did the 3DS system update.  How do I do a game update like Mighty Switch Force?  Would love to try the extra levels

gamingeek said:

Iga played it in Japanese, maybe it's a little better there?

Nope still crappy when it comes to lip syncing.

edgecrusher said:

So I was right...they really SHOULD have released their new console last year instead of this year!

Please explain this logic to me?

Iga_Bobovic said:

edgecrusher said:

So I was right...they really SHOULD have released their new console last year instead of this year!

Please explain this logic to me?

So they could get all their losses out of the way and get a console out there with some actual support.

Iga_Bobovic said:

edgecrusher said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

edgecrusher said:

So I was right...they really SHOULD have released their new console last year instead of this year!

Please explain this logic to me?

So they could get all their losses out of the way and get a console out there with some actual support.

Please never ever start a business.

Ok Mr brilliant.