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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:54:45

Dvader said:

That guy could definetly play football. With that speed and size he would be a killer RB. 

 Rhythm and Blues?

LOL I know there is a position called running back. But I dunno what do those guys do on the field. All I know about (your) football is that a bunch of huge guys try to catch a guy who tries to send the ball to a bunch of smaller guys. Which still would be huge in any other sport except for basketball. LOL

Full backs, running backs, tight ends (hi Leo Nyaa), nose tackles, wide receivers, it's all so confusing. In football (mine), there are definite positions, but the way it is played in this age, anyone can attack or defend at any given time, even the goalkeeper. 

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:55:52

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i read his 40 time would be between 4.24 and 4.30

they were looking at playing him as a running back or a linebacker which i understand is maybe similar to the position of winger he played his rugby as

In reality he would be huge for a RB as most of them are much smaller, but he is fast as hell so why not. He would be the right size for a LB but the speed would be going to waste. As for those positions, the RB is the guy on offense who grabs the ball at the start of a play and runs with it. The LB is the guy on defense who is at the center of the defense, you have the line in front  which tries to penetrate the offenses line behind the d-line are the linebackers, these are the guys that are supposed to hit the hardest and stop the RBs or any of the short passes. They are the guys that are running after the ball more than anyone on defense.

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:59:00

Dvader said:

bugsonglass said:
i read his 40 time would be between 4.24 and 4.30

they were looking at playing him as a running back or a linebacker which i understand is maybe similar to the position of winger he played his rugby as

In reality he would be huge for a RB as most of them are much smaller, but he is fast as hell so why not. He would be the right size for a LB but the speed would be going to waste. As for those positions, the RB is the guy on offense who grabs the ball at the start of a play and runs with it. The LB is the guy on defense who is at the center of the defense, you have the line in front  which tries to penetrate the offenses line behind the d-line are the linebackers, these are the guys that are supposed to hit the hardest and stop the RBs or any of the short passes. They are the guys that are running after the ball more than anyone on defense.

 Tell me more. I might learn enough to jump into a monday night match and actually understand something. Nyaa

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:01:14

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Dvader said:

It is a good discussion but you guys have a tourny going on you guys should be enjoying that. There is no where this can go, I dont like soccer, and I doubt I ever will.

Don't worry, Deedee. It's all in good fun. Besides, there will be no more matches on this tournament until the 27th. Nyaa

I'll be the first one to admit that all sports require a significant amount of skill to play on a professional level. Even sports I dislike or don't follow too much, like handegg or basketball. I reckon they all need lots of skill and practice to be played at a competitive level, and I respect anyone who likes them, as I'm sure everyone else here does.

I'll just acknowledge one more thing, baseball (no, Robio, i'm not hitting on you) is an unbelievably complex sport that requires skill, concentration, teamwork, and strategy. Anyone who has ever tried to play it, or who has watched a high-level match such as seasons play offs or world series matches can attest to this. Baseball has also a huge following over here, although our league is on a whole different level when compared to MLB. There ar eplaces here in Mexico where baseball is more popular than football.

For sure about the atheletes, I have no idea how anyone can run so much and not get tired like these soccer players do, its incredible. They literally get no breaks, I cant even imagine that as all our sports have timeouts or stoppage of the clock.

As for baseball, yeah I agree. Its one thing to be big and run fast, it does take a lot of training. But its another to be able to hit a 90 MPH fastball, that takes a whole different skill set and normally you still need to be big and fast on top of it. Plus there is all sorts of strategy, it is by far the most numbers oriented game I have ever seen, there are literally stats for everything and those stats influence how you approach every situation.

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:02:00
Can we all just agree that the idea of a pro-video game league is a terrible idea and probably the worst sport of all?
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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:08:31

SteelAttack said:

Dvader said:

That guy could definetly play football. With that speed and size he would be a killer RB.

Rhythm and Blues?

LOL I know there is a position called running back. But I dunno what do those guys do on the field. All I know about (your) football is that a bunch of huge guys try to catch a guy who tries to send the ball to a bunch of smaller guys. Which still would be huge in any other sport except for basketball. LOL

Full backs, running backs, tight ends (hi Leo Nyaa), nose tackles, wide receivers, it's all so confusing. In football (mine), there are definite positions, but the way it is played in this age, anyone can attack or defend at any given time, even the goalkeeper.

Right, you know your stuff. Yeah your football is more like basketball or hockey where the guys on the field, even though they each have a position, they can still perform all the same actions like shoot or defend.

Not so the case with handegg. Every position has a set job to do, some are not allowed to catch the ball, and they are different offense and defense players. Its so complicated, just to explain the basics, once you throw in the insane amount of rules and penalties you lose most people.

You guys have seen the George Carlin bit about the difference between Baseball and Football right?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:14:15

robio said:
Can we all just agree that the idea of a pro-video game league is a terrible idea and probably the worst sport of all?

By far.

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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:09:51

The best atletes by far are MMA athletes. Think about it, they need technique, speed, power, but also be nimble (high kicks and crazy submissions), fast refelexes, great chin (you have to be able to take punishment), great nerves and good gameplans. 

You need to be at your peak physically and mentally.

Dvader said:

For sure about the atheletes, I have no idea how anyone can run so much and not get tired like these soccer players do, its incredible. They literally get no breaks, I cant even imagine that as all our sports have timeouts or stoppage of the clock.

 There are some players that run alot, but not all. If you have good positional play, you can totally rip open the defense with little physical effort. Most of you guys underestimate the skill it takes. The more simple it seems the more difficult it is. Fast short passes are so difficult to do, but they look so awesome if you get them right. Remember the ball is on your foot, you are not holding it, so bumping into someone means you can lose the ball.

Dvader said:

I doesn't have to do as much with money as it does with what is simple to learn. Soccer is as basic as it gets. 

Football is easy to learn but hard to master, and playing it is actually more fun than watching it.

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We have our own crappy soccer league, there are a ton of youth soccer programs around, ESPN covers this tournament and the world cup. We have tried it many many times and we keep rejecting it cause to most of us its boring.

 Well New York is warming up and Football is getting more popular now because the USA actually managed to get to the quarter finals in one of the World Cups. The sport will become more popular once the US gets better. It is as simple as that. And you are from Florida, you guys are always the slowest to catch up Nyaa

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There is no where this can go, I dont like soccer, and I doubt I ever will.

 Yes, you will. Just check the World Cup and when the USA trashes Mexico once again, you will have the satisfaction of knowing that Steel is going nuts. 

Vader if you want to start watching Football begin with the World Cups. I don't care who you are, if the USA is a semi-final of the World Cup, of course you are going to watch it. Oh and if you find it boring, it probably means that it is. Not all matches are exiting. We all hate 0-0 scores.

P.S. in Europe football is the most popular, but not the only sport they play. Some of the most popular team sports are:

  • Football (d'oh) 
  • Basketball 
  • Handball
  • Waterpolo (fuck everyone that hates this)
  • Volleyball
  • Rugby
  • Ice Hockey 
  • Hockey
  • Cricket
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Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:46:16

I have seen Soccer, I saw some World Cup matches and the riveting final one which was epic. But then again any final championship game on any sport that goes into overtime is exciting. I was getting excited watching the Masters, golf of all things,  over the weekend cause it was a playoff at the end.  The real issue is we have no league of our own that is worth watching. We  don't know anyone from the sport except the mega superstars. Our youth would rather make millions playing one of the major sports they grow up loving rather than soccer.

And finally all our major sports are more fun to watch than soccer. This is where its going to be hard to get the US, unless you brainwash our children from an early age its not changing. We don't care for soccer. Nyaa

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Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:14:26
This thread is epic. Looks like I needn't have to avoided it for spoilers as nobody is actually talking about the CL. LOL

As for the easiness of kicking a ball into a giant goal:
Yep, my two year old does that all the time. Grinning Shame he's not naked, though, eh Darth?

Anyway can't wait fro the game against Arsenal now. Especially now that Rio is back! The difference he made to our defence was unbelievable. We went from looking like conceeding every time we attacked to Porto never having a chance to even get into a scoring position. Best defender in the world and anybody who disagrees can get hacked down with a studs up tackle from Vidic.

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Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:06:16
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I'm gone for a 3 days and come back to 4 pages of soccer.

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Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:03:29

Yodariquo said:
I'm gone for a 3 days and come back to 4 pages of soccer.

We have our next podcast topic.

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Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:33:54

Barcelona vs Chelsea

Awesome.

Normally I prefer Spanish clubs, but I really do not like Barca.

So go Chelsea!

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Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:26:37
Chelsea still alive.  Drogba should have slotted in.  Why are spanish clubs such pussies that they can't even stand up in the pitch.  get over yourselves barca

thanks for the support iga

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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:52:11
I missed today's match while cheating death one more day. How was it?
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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:09:13

SteelAttack said:
I missed today's match while cheating death one more day. How was it?

0 - 0 ... just the kind of match iga loves Nyaa  a tactical display Nyaa

chelsea was mostly defensive but they had the one clear chance in the game on the break with drogba (after marquez made a blunder of a back pass) missing twice with just the keeper to beat.  barcelona had a few half chances (especially at the very end) but on the whole they proved pretty ineffective against a solid chelsea backline.

chelsea gave the ball away too easily, especially the keeper with his long aimless shoots (not once taking it near one of his own players), but happy on the whole not to have conceded.  barcelona very frustrated not to have cleared the game on their home leg (as they like to do) but they deserved nothing more.  they proved (not that it needed proof) that they are just another weak spanish side full of cry babies who drop like flies and scream bloody murder for no reason at all.  ref did well not to be intimidated by them or their 110 k cry baby fans.

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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:29:33

SteelAttack said:
I missed today's match while cheating death one more day. How was it?

 Well, the first 35 to 40 minutes Barca played beautiful football. Then they kinda started to "fight", you know people getting injured and stuff. Chelsea was just defending. The second half was messy football, until the last 10 minutes when it was nice again. 

Oh there were 2 KO's. Alex KO'd Henry and Drogba was also KO'd (not sure who did it). With KO I really mean KO, as in unconcious. 

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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:59:20
How do you get knocked out in soccer?

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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:02:28

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How do you get knocked out in soccer?

 Football!!

Both player jump to head a ball. One player is behind the other player and hits him in the back of the head with his forehead or shoulder. 

And this is how you are murdered in football

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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:03:42
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Yodariquo said:
How do you get knocked out in soccer?

 Football!!

Both player jump to head a ball. One player is behind the other player and hits him in the back of the head with his forehead or shoulder. 

Twice?

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