Good luck with that.

Foolz liked football. Er, soccer.

Pro Evolution Soccer 2009: 93%
+ Defensive controls are fixed!
+ Classic controller support
+ Master leagure inluded
+ Improved champions road
- Not enough licensed teams

From NOM

gamingeek said:

Pro Evolution Soccer 2009: 93%
+ Defensive controls are fixed!
+ Classic controller support
+ Master leagure inluded
+ Improved champions road
- Not enough licensed teams

From NOM

*fap fap fap fap fapf fap fap fap fap*

Well Aspro no PES or FIFA or football game comes close to PES2008 for the wii (oh wait, that is a football and PES game). The level of control from the wii-remote is just superb. You can pull off-the ball players to make a run with the exact timing speed and line that you want them to, then slide the through b all through accurately, while moving three other players off the ball into position to decoy two defenders while the toher gets ready to receive the pass. It really is wonderful.

Anyway, I just started be a pro mode on FIFA 09. It's a hell of a lot better than playing as a single player on PES, I'll give you that. It's also actually a hell of a lot of fun. I never thought I'd be so pleased when the team scored and I wasn't necessarily directly involved. I think playing as a defender mgiht actually be fun (box to box midfielder ftw, as then I can do pretty much everything, though). In fact, I've found myself celebrating MORE when the team has scored an important goal, than when I've scored another one. It's really surprisingly good.

Foolz said:

*fap fap fap fap fapf fap fap fap fap*

Well Aspro no PES or FIFA or football game comes close to PES2008 for the wii (oh wait, that is a football and PES game). The level of control from the wii-remote is just superb. You can pull off-the ball players to make a run with the exact timing speed and line that you want them to, then slide the through b all through accurately, while moving three other players off the ball into position to decoy two defenders while the toher gets ready to receive the pass. It really is wonderful.

When I first got PES2008Wii (now that's a mouthful), the freedom of choice that its control scheme provided gave me a raging boner. After a while, I realized that the was just that, a superbly crafted control mechanics inside a lame, barebones football game. And I mean lame. If the lack of licensed teams and players wasn't enough, there was also the lack of a master league mode, and the awful representation of the players in the transfer screens, with big, stupid heads, or the shitty transfer system.

I remember unlocking a special match when playing the boring mini leagues available instead of a proper master league, and getting excited and saying to myself, oh man, I hope it's a team comprised of legendary football players, only to find out it was a team made OF MY FUCKING MIIS. Come the FUCK on, a Mii team? Not only that, everyone (including my fucking players) had a big ass fucking head bobbing around through the pitch. That's where I drew the line. Great controls can only get you so far. I mean, PES8 (as...in PES Eight, and I spent over 300 hours with that game easily) had deeper league and transfer systems than this game.

After being burned to death with PES2007360, I skipped both FIFA and PES 08, favoring the Wii edition (which got me burned, for different reasons) this last year. Still, I had been hearing great stuff about improvements on the FIFA franchise and the increasing staleness of the PES one. And here I am, with what arguably is the best FIFA game ever since FIFA 98, and where only the Play as a Pro feature alone is well worth the entry price. Having skipped previous games, the camera work on this one floored me. Having a vertical overhead view rotating as you move the ball and shifting to a some sort of third person view of your player when you sprint or perform skill moves is nothing short of amazing. Scoring from a long range or blasting a volley shot feels awesome, but as you said, it feels just as good (if not better) to watch your team score with you helping behind the frontlines.

Unfortunately most of the online community is shit. You have people kicking players out of the game for missing a pass or shit like that. Fuck them. Still, I have put probably 60 or 70 hours into it, and I'm barely scratching the surface of the deep strategy and skill moves.

I'll rent PES09 this weekend to give it a shot.

Football talk incoming. Zoning out commences.

Mind.... melting.

Foolz said:

Nah, I can understand that, but honestly when it comes down to it the controls are far more important to me and it doesn't really matter who I'm playing as or against. PES 2009 is meant to have the editing mode and ML so then all my dreams will come true.

Your dreams already became true when you stared in awe at my penis. Everything else after that is just the icing on the cake.

gamingeek said:

Steel PES 2008 on Wii was the most fully featured version that year. I hear that the other versions were horribly gimped.

What the fuck? What were the other versions? Pele's Soccer? Jaleco's GOAL?

SteelAttack said:

Foolz said:

Nah, I can understand that, but honestly when it comes down to it the controls are far more important to me and it doesn't really matter who I'm playing as or against. PES 2009 is meant to have the editing mode and ML so then all my dreams will come true.

Your dreams already became true when you stared in awe at my penis. Everything else after that is just the icing on the cake.

No, the next stage is the saliva, and then finally semen.

gamingeek said:

SteelAttack said:

gamingeek said:

Steel PES 2008 on Wii was the most fully featured version that year. I hear that the other versions were horribly gimped.

What the fuck? What were the other versions? Pele's Soccer? Jaleco's GOAL?

I hear that they had limited stadiums and modes and horrible slowdown too.

Konami later apologised.

And they were pretty much exactly the same as PES6...only shit.

Gamesradar review

PES 2009 Wii

This, friends, is a beautiful game. Glancing back at last year’s game, which we loved, we discover that the few niggles we did have are ironed out in the 2009 offering. If you were a fan of 2008, there are sufficient advances both on and off the pitch to merit splashing your cash. Let’s take a look at the ones on the pitch first.

Defense has greatly improved. You’ve now got full control over your player’s movement and timing when going in for a challenge, unlike last year’s somewhat random point-click-and-hope semi-automatic affair. You can still bring in a second, AI-controlled player to close down an opponent, though.

In front of goal, you can now use the remote to direct where you want to shoot, which is very tough to get to grips with but ultimately more rewarding than the timed Nunchuk-shake (which is still part of the control set-up). The incredibly detailed training camp tutorials are a must for getting your head around the system or you’ll be firing blanks for ages.

The rest of the on-pitch action plays very much as before, which is fine by us. However, it’s a very different game if you elect to use the newly implemented Classic Controller option. Do this and you’ve essentially got yourself the game that has been doing the rounds on PS2 for years.

In terms of options, this is a far beefier package. We’ve waxed lyrical about the Master League so often we’re even boring ourselves, but suffice to say its inclusion here is great after last year’s mysterious absence. There’s more meat to the Champions Road mode, too, where you’re given tasks to complete that will improve your club house and suchlike in addition to winning new players. There’s a full edit mode as well, meaning you can cheekily change all the rubbish names to the real ones and sort the kits out too.

While many licenses are still absent, the jewel in the crown of this year’s PES is a fully fledged Champions League mode. Sadly, not a competition any of our teams will be enjoying next season.

You'll love

• Tweaks make this a stronger title
• Commentary is insane
• New modes are very welcome

You'll hate

• Basically the same as last year
• Player likenesses dependent on their fame
• Steep learning curve for new shooting mechanic

9/10