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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:24:47
bugsonglass said:

Personally I think it should depend on whether the artists are pros or not.  For example I don't understand why it's OK to allow professional basketball players, and tennis players (who already earn ridiculous amounts of money and have more glamorous dedicated tournaments to play for), but NOT allow professional boxers!  Or footballers.   You either do or you don't.

There was a time when they didn't allow any professionals, and the US for example sent college ball players.  I kinda felt that was more in the spirit of the Olympics.  I don't know

I remember that but I thought that was some dumb rule so to protect the pros. I feel the opposite, shouldnt the olympics be the worlds best in every category. It is in most but in many of the team sports it is not, obviously cause the olympics doesn't mean much to that sport. At this point it is too hard to fix that so if it is going to be a contest of amatures then make everyone follow the same rule.

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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:27:10
gamingeek said:

I don't think it's as bad as you are making it sound, at that point we had like 2 medals and one was a bronze, no golds. GB is like 26th in the medals table without a single gold, although we about to win our first as I type in the rowing. Ah they just won the double coxless skulls.

You know I think they should spice up the archery, make it like laser tag but with arrows and a complex. What's the point of shooting at a stationary circle? Last man standing I say.

Hell yes!

I lot of these sports need an update.

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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:38:47
Dvader said:
bugsonglass said:

Personally I think it should depend on whether the artists are pros or not.  For example I don't understand why it's OK to allow professional basketball players, and tennis players (who already earn ridiculous amounts of money and have more glamorous dedicated tournaments to play for), but NOT allow professional boxers!  Or footballers.   You either do or you don't.

There was a time when they didn't allow any professionals, and the US for example sent college ball players.  I kinda felt that was more in the spirit of the Olympics.  I don't know

I remember that but I thought that was some dumb rule so to protect the pros. I feel the opposite, shouldnt the olympics be the worlds best in every category. It is in most but in many of the team sports it is not, obviously cause the olympics doesn't mean much to that sport. At this point it is too hard to fix that so if it is going to be a contest of amatures then make everyone follow the same rule.

The same thing applies with World Cup in Basketball. Why the hell does the NBA act like pussies when it comes to sending players over. Not just Americans, but all the other international stars have to pay ridiculous insurance money. Fuck that shit. When your country calls you serve. Dissenters will be shot.

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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:41:12
Foolz said:

They need to put more nudity into MMA, rather than more MMA into the Olympics.

Audience needs to be naked to and no women may watch!

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Ah.

I wonder how much the football thing is down to the Olympics, or FIFA, though. I'm sure FIFA is pretty happy with running the only big, unrestricted fully international tournament around.

Football is too big for the Olympics. No one would care about anything else. It is in both interest that they do not compete with each other.

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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:42:37

About boxing, the professional do not enter, because it is a tournament format. Floyd Mayweather will not be able to duck his opponents in that format.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:35:11
Iga_Bobovic said:
Foolz said:

They need to put more nudity into MMA, rather than more MMA into the Olympics.

Audience needs to be naked to and no women may watch!

Foolz said:

Ah.

I wonder how much the football thing is down to the Olympics, or FIFA, though. I'm sure FIFA is pretty happy with running the only big, unrestricted fully international tournament around.

Football is too big for the Olympics. No one would care about anything else. It is in both interest that they do not compete with each other.

Now we're talking!

I agree with that, but there's got to be some temptation on the Olympics side to go with a proper football tournament for the money and the hookers.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:56:58

They just showed Thorpe on the news. He was just wearing a plain old polo. Disappointing. Sad

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:59:39
+1

He likely reads this site and is adjusting accordingling. Leave Britney ALONE!

Edited: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:01:18

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:44:57

bugsonglass said:

there is a certain degree of truth in that but it's not completely like that.  Swimmers need to specialise too.  Only the really good ones can do more than one style well.  Or those who can are good in the individual medley but not good enough to compete with the best in the specialised events.

In track and field it's even more difficult.  Didn't you ever wonder why no single person competed in both the long jump and the triple jump?  Surely it's the same discipline, but I guess it's a lot more compicated than that.

What Kelly Holmes did (gold in 400m and 800m I think) and especially what Usain Bolt did (gold and WR in 100m, 200m and relay) and Michael Phelps is just superhuman I think

Yeah you do see people doubling down on similar distances, Michael Johnson for instance too. I suppose you could use hurdles as an example that is the same distance but you never see the same athletes winning the sprinting then doing the same over the same distance in hurdling.

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Hell yes!

I lot of these sports need an update.

Seriously in the past bows and arrows were made for hunting and fighting and neither involved stationary targets. Make it like a war last man standing in a complex. You get shot, you're out.

Also in swimming I want there to be a medal or competion to see who can swim the furthest underwater in one breath.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:51:58
Foolz said:

They just showed Thorpe on the news. He was just wearing a plain old polo. Disappointing. Sad

Yeah, just a plain grey polo shirt yesterday.  Not even woth reporting.

I posted this in the GGW but no one cared, so I will post again here:

4 Women's Badminton pairs were disqualified at the Olympics for deliberately trying to lose their games. Apparently they'd already got through to the next stage and losing would have got them an easier draw, so they kept hitting the thing into the net or out of bounds. The crowds booed. And the Badminton association disqualified all four pairs and put four others in their place who'd already gone out.


Why should you want to win if it will put you at a disadvantage? To me is seems like the tournament wasn't well thought out and they designed in the wrong way. But it's easier to punish the athletes I guess.

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Watched some boxing yesterday.  I strongly feel, the crowd and home advantage are playing a part.  The Cuban boxer who lost to the Brit by one point certainly looked like he'd got the better of him.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:27:01

I wonder if they would have been banned if we didn't appeal to have another chance of getting further.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:35:54

It was sucky behaviour by the badminton players did you see the footage? Two pairs of asses serving into the net one after the other. I think once the ref warned them they should have played properly and if not, then banned.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:20:05

Yes, completely pathetic.  But don't you think that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way a tournament is designed if losing a round gives you an advantage?

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The boxing is embarassing.  I have seen at least three British boxers now comprehensively beaten, who all won the fights on points.  There is ridiculous bias in favour of the Brits here.  Not nice.  It should be a level playing field.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:52:21

Wow.  Basketball Team GB only just lose to Spain by one measly point.  Britain used to be completely disinterested in basketball and now they very nearly beat Spain, which has been the dominant national team in Europe over the last few years.

What was completely bewildering was that Spain had the ball with 10 seconds to go and GB didn't foul them even though they were just 1 point down.  Most perplexing.  Lack of experience I guess.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:18:56

Poor Nigeria, Team USA is just messing with them now. If we want we can break the olympic record for points in a basketball game but at this point its almost bad sportsmanship to keep piling on these guys.

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:27:47

Nigerian guys probably feel like winners anyway. If I was one of them I would probably take pics of myself with NBA stars and exchange jerseys at the end of the match (or steal them from their locker rooms).

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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:37:55

We broke the record. Our team should stay for an autograph session after the game after what we did to them.

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Fri, 03 Aug 2012 02:57:13
Dvader said:

We broke the record. Our team should stay for an autograph session after the game after what we did to them.

That's how America wins gracefully? Signing autographs? Nyaa

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Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:41:03
bugsonglass said:

Yes, completely pathetic.  But don't you think that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way a tournament is designed if losing a round gives you an advantage?

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The boxing is embarassing.  I have seen at least three British boxers now comprehensively beaten, who all won the fights on points.  There is ridiculous bias in favour of the Brits here.  Not nice.  It should be a level playing field.

I haven't watched the boxing at all, I read there is a new scoring system which may be to blame.

You seem to feel very strongly that there is bias towards the hosts here. Did you feel the same for Bejing, Sydney etc? The best bias I ever saw was South Korea in the World cup one time.

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Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:50:38
gamingeek said:

I haven't watched the boxing at all, I read there is a new scoring system which may be to blame.

You seem to feel very strongly that there is bias towards the hosts here. Did you feel the same for Bejing, Sydney etc? The best bias I ever saw was South Korea in the World cup one time.



I think that was bribing rather than bias.

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