Dvader said:Any more impressions Leo? I really enjoy your terrified, repulsed yet still enjoying the game impressions.
Well, I was going to stop posting things like that for two reasons: (1)I can fully understand people not having the same reaction to the subject matter as me, cause, frankly, they haven't lived my life, it may not be as personal to them, and I didn't want to build it up to the point where people would then be let down. (2)Many of the more repulsive and horrifying moments are events in the game that I don't want to spoil and therefore cannot talk about.
Suffice it to say, it's uncomfortable subject matter. Many unmentionables are laid out in the open. The game is not afraid to offend or deal with controversial topics. The game balances history with fantasy, mixing real American history with alternate reality fiction in such a way that it makes things just on the edge of believable and you (or at least I do) start to get frightened at the prospect of "What might have become" had history not taken the turns it did.
I can honestly, truly and sincerely see some patriotic people getting INCREDIBLY offended by some of the images and suggestions in this game and can see this being a textbook example of game design for many, many years to come. You think the Tyranny of King Washington is bad? You ain't seen --NOTHING-- yet, buddy!
Ravenprose said:I found the crow Vigor, Leo. I'm more disinterested than I'm finding it too hard. The frustration I'm feeling has more to do with the game's combat, which feels like a huge step backward from other shooters that I've been playing recently. I know that's not fair to Bioshock, since it's a very different game, but I still can't get into it for that reason. I'll give it another go after I play through GoW: Ascension. Perhaps playing something that's not a shooter will cleanse the pallet, so to speak.
Wait. You're disinterested in Infinite and you're going to play Ascension to cleanse your pallet? Oh boy. That's like going from a Filet Mignon to Styrofoam. Errr... to each his own, I guess! Have fun...!
phantom_leo said:Wait. You're disinterested in Infinite and you're going to play Ascension to cleanse your pallet? Oh boy. That's like going from a Filet Mignon to Styrofoam. Errr... to each his own, I guess! Have fun...!
I've never played a GoW game before. I'm actually finding it to be a lot of fun. 
Fair enough. If you're having fun, that's the most important thing. I found it formulaic to the point of it not being fun, but if you don't know the formula...
Finally play this tomorrow, I cant wait.
phantom_leo said:Fair enough. If you're having fun, that's the most important thing. I found it formulaic to the point of it not being fun, but if you don't know the formula...
Yeah, if you've never played one I can see that.
Dvader said:Finally play this tomorrow, I cant wait.
I wish I could download it.
I --REALLY-- need to read someone else's impressions to see if it's just me or if it's as "bad" as I think.
Without an excessive use of blood or gore, scare tactics or in your face imagery, Ken Levine and his team have crafted the most HORRIFYING, UNSETTLING and SCARY videogame of all time. Yeah, Seriously.
**There is blood and gore in the game, but the philosophy is more scary than the imagery.**
Bioshock!
Now with 50% more racism.
(Watched my brother play the first couple of hours, I will be playing this one shortly)
I kind of like how they put in the racist stuff in since it was so prevelant and such a large part of North American history during that time period. So many games or movies gloss over the horrible things of the past and romanticize the eras. You would certainly not want to be of color or a woman in this time period.
Although you would get to say things like hip, hip and cheerio.
^I think it's "pip pip". At what point though does adding racism just become a gimmick to make the story seem more than it is?
It's not just added. It's not just a gimmick. It's central to the story and Columbia.
Pip, pip, pooray?
I played a couple hours of Bioshock late last night. I'm usually not one for motion-controlled FPS, as I greatly prefer my dual-analogue controller for those games, but Bioshock Infinite is an exception. With the Dual Shock 3, the game lacks the precise aiming controls that are needed for a game of this type, and I could not overcome that issue no matter how I adjusted the controller settings. I am, however, getting a LOT better controls with Move set to "expert" controls. With Move, I'm getting near-mouse precise aiming, and, unlike other FPS I've played with the Wii Remote, turning and looking doesn't cause the screen to become a wobbly, jittery, shaky Cam mess. Headshots, which are near-impossible with the Dual Shock 3, are much easier with Move. While I still have some issues with the archaic gameplay, Move helps make it more fun to play.
phantom_leo said:It's not just added. It's not just a gimmick. It's central to the story and Columbia.
Yeah it does feel completely natural to the game and it wouldn't have been nearly the same without it. Right now I'm playing it on hard and I'd say that it feels appropriately challenging. I'm taking my time exploring every area, watching all the film vignettes and listening to all the voxophones. Really savouring my time with this game.
Ravenprose said:I played a couple hours of Bioshock late last night. I'm usually not one for motion-controlled FPS, as I greatly prefer my dual-analogue controller for those games, but Bioshock Infinite is an exception. With the Dual Shock 3, the game lacks the precise aiming controls that are needed for a game of this type, and I could not overcome that issue no matter how I adjusted the controller settings. I am, however, getting a LOT better controls with Move set to "expert" controls. With Move, I'm getting near-mouse precise aiming, and, unlike other FPS I've played with the Wii Remote, turning and looking doesn't cause the screen to become a wobbly, jittery, shaky Cam mess. Headshots, which are near-impossible with the Dual Shock 3, are much easier with Move. While I still have some issues with the archaic gameplay, Move helps make it more fun to play.
Troll!
A word of warning to Bioshock Infinite PS3 retail disk owers! You get a free copy of the original Bioshock on your Bluray disk. You cannot, however, play that game from the disk; it will install the entire 12GB game onto your hard drive, and it takes FOR-FUCKING-EVER to install. I started the install 10 minutes ago, and I'm only at 5% complete. At first, I thought my PS3 had locked up, but it did not. I could buy the game on PSN, download it, and install it FASTER than installing it from the Bluray disk. Seriously, WTF?
gamingeek said:Troll!
Huh?
Ravenprose said:gamingeek said:Troll!
Huh?
How much have you trolled motion control over the years?
I found the crow Vigor, Leo. I'm more disinterested than I'm finding it too hard. The frustration I'm feeling has more to do with the game's combat, which feels like a huge step backward from other shooters that I've been playing recently. I know that's not fair to Bioshock, since it's a very different game, but I still can't get into it for that reason. I'll give it another go after I play through GoW: Ascension. Perhaps playing something that's not a shooter will cleanse the pallet, so to speak.