Dvader said:

Now on the trying new franchises and stuff Miyamoto is right. Nintendo is constantly trying new games, just weird stuff no one wants to even give credit for.

He's right and also it feels slighty bizaare that Nintendoland is a new game/franchise IP and people don't consider it that. I say it's bizaare because until I read the interview and read Miyamoto saying that, I didn't consider it was a new IP. It never even crossed my mind.

Dvader said:

ITS OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!!!!!! Holy shit, the community banded together and we actually changed something!!!!!!!!!

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

The new details page is not up yet, coming up soon. MS already confirmed.

LOL, it's too late for me, this is a PR disaster. They've shown a certain side to how they think about consumers and I want no part of it. The cloud is still going to be used and means your games wont be future proof. Kinect is still there and the price is still unacceptable. And the machine is still weaker than PS4 hardware.

aspro said:

now the only advantage Sony has, besides their superior exclusives, is their region free-ness (which is a big deal down here).

• You wont be able to play the games forever that use the cloud.
• X1 is region free
• PS4 is 1.8 teraflops, X1 is 1.2, the GPU is significantly weaker.

edgecrusher said:

I'm still not buying the Xbox One.

The fact that they said all this shit and can't even back up their own bullshit almost unnerves me & pisses me off as much as the bullshit in the 1st place. They showed their true colors, and now they are trying to change their tune completely only a few weeks later for the simple reason that they figured out how much money they were about to lose...not save.

Still going PS4, Wii U, and PC...and still not going to miss out on much.

Foolz said:

You won't be able to play PSN games forever, either.

Why not? Are you talking about downloaded games? What about the cloud?

So is anyone at all getting Animal Crossing New Leaf or not? I'm going to have to make some new friends elsewhere otherwise with online action going on. Game seems to have more legs and options than the last game, new stuff is slowly opening up each day. Still waiting on a watering can and axe though.

gamingeek said:

Foolz said:

You won't be able to play PSN games forever, either.

Why not? Are you talking about downloaded games? What about the cloud?

So is anyone at all getting Animal Crossing New Leaf or not? I'm going to have to make some new friends elsewhere otherwise with online action going on. Game seems to have more legs and options than the last game, new stuff is slowly opening up each day. Still waiting on a watering can and axe though.

I meant PSN Cloud games. Though, that's is based on nothing, as the PSN Cloud may as well not exist.

Did you mean Xbox One games that need the cloud for magical extra computing power? There won't be any such thing.

I love seeing Microsoft backpedal. I'm sure they've already devised a plan to make consumers bend over once they buy the console.

I'm a predominantly PC gamer, why would I care about this? :

PS4 is 1.8 teraflops, X1 is 1.2, the GPU is significantly weaker.

I was talking about IP, not tech.

Personally regarding the X1 announcements ...

This will be very interesting how it all plays out over the next few years.  I would love to own all three consoles like I did the last two generations, but right now, that's not happening.

I'd lol at MS, but lol doesn't cover what I am feeling right now.

This is hell for MS's PR guys, but I doubt it'll be remembered, just like people don't speak of the PSN hack anymore.  I can't shake the feeling that if this would have been Sony or Nintendo, they'd stick with it and just prove how great their vision was, despite what everyone was saying.  It's just not something I see a Japanese company doing.

SupremeAC said:

I can't shake the feeling that if this would have been Sony or Nintendo, they'd stick with it and just prove how great their vision was, despite what everyone was saying.  It's just not something I see a Japanese company doing.

I can't ever see Nintendo doing this, if only because all I see is Iwata bowing and apologising all the time and making very consumer centric statements on used games and DLC. If anything this Japanese bowing apology thing is probably not what the western audience wants to see. They want brash chest beating.

Reggie says "make games people want to keep" - Miyamoto says that consoles should be "like toys you want to return to" many years later.

Lol, this made my day:

http://m.now.msn.com/graduate-drawn-with-cat-on-head-instead-of-cap-on-funny-cake