aspro said:

Latest podcast is up. Yoda and Vader tackle the news of the week and give their controversial views on Nintendo's past, present and future.

Dark Robio is also addressed, as is Captivate.

Well I guess I'm morally obligated to listen now.

Agnates said:

Less jaggies, more foliage, better lighting, bigger areas, less segmented areas, higher draw distances, increased environment complexity, volumetric effects, higher texture resolution, higher fps (Twilight Princess was 30 even on Wii), more complex physics, etc, can be benefits as well, regardless of the chosen art style, even before Nintendo get to grips with using pixel shaders effectively or incorporating normal mapping to their art and what not (which I don't think will take long). I think you're underestimating the potential even if it's 360 like. I do think others overstate it though. More power doesn't only imply gritty vaseline realism (thank God).

You're talking to a guy who thinks that most HD games feel like Xbox 1 generation games only with a shinier lick of paint.

I know that's a broad generalisation.

I like good graphics, but I'm overly cynical by nature. It honestly doesn't mean that much to me, like when you start playing a game and at first you are impressed with the visuals and then you sort of forget about them and start actually playing the game and concentrating on the design. Sometimes I feel that developers go too far just because they can, make environments too big and make you either trudge through them or quick travel which makes huge environments pointless. Or put in tons of cannor fodder enemies which are boring to plough through. I feel that a games' design dictates change more than just technology. Like what I said about Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy or even REmake and RE0 compared to RE4. Same level tech, totally different and exciting new designs.

aspro said:

Any time you Euros go on about being a better society I'll remind you that Zumba Fitness was the best selling game in the UK for two weeks now.

and now this:

Mother fu.........

aspro said:

I got 2.5 hours into Bayonetta last night.

It's not working. I spend most of the time dieing.  Actually I spend most of the time looking at the words LOADING... and SAVING...

10 seconds of game play followed by 20 seconds of LOADING... SAVING... is not for me, I learnt my lesson from Too Human.

I'm another who doesn't get Bayonetta.

Dvader said:




Better graphics hurt no one, it's going to be a great thing. I believe your fear is more along the lines of the games on the system being the exact same games you get on the other two rather than unique 3rd party games like the wii, correct?

I don't have fears brother.

I'm just saying that Nintendo will do their own thing, whilst we all want their games to to in this direction, they will say no and won't.

And that 3rd parties will love the power of an HD system because it's easier for them to port, but since we already all own an HD system we could get the 3rd party games there anyway. Even when the cube was more powerful than the PS2 you still saw games like Burnout 3 etc missing the console because sales were lower.

BTW I am watching Lost. Up to season 3 now.

Dvader said:

This. OMG I agree with you.

Whenever you and Agnates agree on something, the law states that a "worlds collide" pic must be posted!

Dvader said:

What? The entire point to Endless Ocean is to see the ocean. There is no game, you just look at shit. Looking at shit with better graphics would be the best enhancement the game can get.

I love you guys.

Endless Ocean 2 improved on a ton of stuff from the first game and there was a minor graphic bump. Most of the improvements were all game design enhancements, though I probably liked the locations of the first game more. And the music. Vader, honestly with regards to Endless Ocean, it would be like me talking about Killzone 1, 2 or 3.

i.e I haven't played them I am not familiar with the franchise or the design or the visuals and I might be saying things out of guesswork that really aren't true at all.

Check out our very own Endless Ocean 2 thread, there are pics there that I have taken myself on my wii and uploaded via SD card.

Also the sea doesn't need or want a huge draw distance, in reality the water density means you don't get a clear view to the horizon, there is mostly a natural limit to what your eyes can see almost like moving through a light fog.

They actually improved the foliage in the second game so that it matched the zoom in close ups of the first game. Shows what they can do with experience.

This is the pic Foolz posted - that one was taken via a camera and off a TV screen, mine above is taken via SD card and on an SDTV. None of these pics are Dolphin emulated.

Also they improved the detail on the new fish models. They kept many of the same ones from the first game but the new ones are much more highly detailed like this giant trevelly. And not just in focus mode, but in open gameplay.

Not all of the game looks great, like most pre-360/PS3 games visual quality varies by area, but when it looks good, combined with the ettereal music, and bubbly water sound effects, it can be beautiful to watch and play.

Anyway here are some gifs of EO2 on Wii.

Also, please stop playing Wii on an HDTV.

You know what it does. Also why is Locke holding throat pastilles? I have not seen this episode yet. I just watched Hurley drive an old van down a hill.

Is Saints Row really like this?

More Wii 2 rumours, proabably fake, but whatever:

Rockstar is one of the many major publishers secretly working on Wii 2 titles, claims the latest rumour report from French site 01.net.


According to the site, which last week released supposed tech specs and further controller details for the new console, Nintendo's specifically targeted Rockstar as part of its campaign to 'win back' the hardcore audience.



If true, the move could be a huge win for the platform holder, as - presuming rumours Wii 2 will be more powerful than PS3 and 360 are true - it could have the best looking version of GTA V on its console.


The French site previously released Sony's NGP specs long before the official announcement.

One thing I just thought of, it would be cool if they had a 3DS mode in Wii 2 games where you could wirelessly beam the picture to your 3DS game and play the game with the 3D screen as an option. Also, if someone else is hogging the big TV it would be handy.

Archie, have you chosen your first 3DS game yet?

OMG Mortal Kombat is fantastic!!!!! The bosses are such cheap assholes but I wouldnt have it any other way. It is classic MK done better than ever.

Wow Zelda looks incredible.

Holy crap the Krypt is HUGE. Thats where you spend points to unlock stuff. Well I want to these huge tombs thinking they will give me something cool like a new fatality, nope crappy artwork.  Bastards made that seem important.

I'm going to play EO today. I'm in the mood for a change.

gamingeek said:

Is Saints Row really like this?

Yes.

Archangel3371 said:

Oh man I sure hope Doom 4 makes it out sometime next year.

They won;t want to release it this year so as not to crowd out Rage.

Dvader said:

phantom_leo said:

AWESOME ! ! !

I hope I'll be in NYC all next week...!!

When next week exactly...?

I arrive late Monday, leave Friday. I think I have a day off on wednesday, I'll let you know. You are going to have to tell me what tours to take and stuff, I definitely want to see the Nintendo store as well.