SteelAttack said:

Why is a lot of people at GAF being sandy vaginas regarding the new Max Payne? I ask this because I've never played either of the previous 2.

Explain. What are they saying?

gamingeek said:

bugsonglass said:

SteelAttack said:

1Up has this rumor about an upcoming, revised hardware version of the 360, apparently for 2010 and in time with Natal's launch. So far, it's all in good rumor fashion. Teh lulz begin here:

Make no mistake, we wouldn't be talking about the sort of hardware leap we've seen with Xbox (or most other) platforms in the past, and we're not talking about Microsoft ending one console cycle and starting another.
We're talking about an evolution of the Xbox 360; similar hardware but upgraded, repackaged, and rebranded. It's actually not that unlike what Nintendo did with the Wii, where it essentially took the GameCube hardware, stuck in motion controls, and successfully relaunched it.

  I'm so making a thread on this at the GGD.

if this does indeed happen it'll be hilarious to see the spin on it by the fanboys

Strangely I think the response would be the same as my reaction to Wii a few years back. As in "I'm okay with the visuals if developers actually make games that all look as good as (insert best visual game). If they can release it for a reasonable price because of this and do something new, it might be worth it."

i was referring more to the differences in attitudes from people based purely on brand loyalty.  for example a business model practiced by nintendo which was treated with contempt by a sizeable section of the gaming public is now apparently about to be microsoft's newfound strategy.  so i am saying it will be interesting if not entertaining to watch how the attitudes of those very same people who were contemptuous towards nintendo for this very same strategy, now change.  

you are an honest gamer, well capable of thinking for yourself and without any unreasonable or unhealthy loyalties towards particular brands (and certainly not with unhealthy hatred or prejudice towards others ... hell you are even ready to welcome the prodigal "ubishite" ).  a lot of gamespot users aren't like that (hence why we aren't there any more ... at least one of the reasons), the reactions of those is what i'm saying will be interesting/funny.

personally what i'm thinking is that copycat strategies are even more risky than renegade strategies since evolution/innovation/surprise is no longer part of the package, so unless, like you say, there is something substantial there i.e. good games at affordable prices, then they could be in trouble

bugsonglass said:

gamingeek said:

bugsonglass said:

SteelAttack said:

1Up has this rumor about an upcoming, revised hardware version of the 360, apparently for 2010 and in time with Natal's launch. So far, it's all in good rumor fashion. Teh lulz begin here:

Make no mistake, we wouldn't be talking about the sort of hardware leap we've seen with Xbox (or most other) platforms in the past, and we're not talking about Microsoft ending one console cycle and starting another.
We're talking about an evolution of the Xbox 360; similar hardware but upgraded, repackaged, and rebranded. It's actually not that unlike what Nintendo did with the Wii, where it essentially took the GameCube hardware, stuck in motion controls, and successfully relaunched it.

  I'm so making a thread on this at the GGD.

if this does indeed happen it'll be hilarious to see the spin on it by the fanboys

Strangely I think the response would be the same as my reaction to Wii a few years back. As in "I'm okay with the visuals if developers actually make games that all look as good as (insert best visual game). If they can release it for a reasonable price because of this and do something new, it might be worth it."

i was referring more to the differences in attitudes from people based purely on brand loyalty.  for example a business model practiced by nintendo which was treated with contempt by a sizeable section of the gaming public is now apparently about to be microsoft's newfound strategy.  so i am saying it will be interesting if not entertaining to watch how the attitudes of those very same people who were contemptuous towards nintendo for this very same strategy, now change.  

you are an honest gamer, well capable of thinking for yourself and without any unreasonable or unhealthy loyalties towards particular brands (and certainly not with unhealthy hatred or prejudice towards others ... hell you are even ready to welcome the prodigal "ubishite" ).  a lot of gamespot users aren't like that (hence why we aren't there any more ... at least one of the reasons), the reactions of those is what i'm saying will be interesting/funny.

personally what i'm thinking is that copycat strategies are even more risky than renegade strategies since evolution/innovation/surprise is no longer part of the package, so unless, like you say, there is something substantial there i.e. good games at affordable prices, then they could be in trouble

Yeah there will be a lot of people who are suddenly accepting or even loving the new reveal despite the moaning several years ago. What I would like to do is somehow read through those posts from people who said that they would give up gaming if motion controls became standard. I would love to call them on that.

SteelAttack said:

gamingeek said:

SteelAttack said:

Why is a lot of people at GAF being sandy vaginas regarding the new Max Payne? I ask this because I've never played either of the previous 2.

Explain. What are they saying?

They hate the new pops-looks of Payne, they think it's going to be another run-of-the-mill 3rd person shooter, that the Noir themed setting is a thing of the past, now that it's going to be located in Brazil.

They want constipated Payne back.

They can't do another noir payne, they do need to do soemthing different, but going from cold to hot, in game terms reminds me of the beggining of Tropic Thunder and the Scorder parody. If you haven't seen it, in Scorcher's one to four there is a hot world and he has a shotgun and a baby in his arms. For the fifth movie it's on an ice world and he has two shotguns and two babies in his arms. It's unintentionally the most accurate parody of gaming blockbusters I've seen. Even though its suppossed to be ribbing action blockbuster movies.

^ I quit that addiction, you are not getting me back in.

Nice MM though.

robio said:

Wow look at that.  Bash Party only did 23K in sales last month.  Not a huge surprise.  Despite the good reviews, it's been less than a year since the original came out.  That should be a lesson to all developers.  You got to space out your sequels a little bit more.  

It's a game I will definetely buy, but it should be out at the end of this year, not now. The original has 300+ levels which I didn't get through. I completed it 85%. I've put it up on ebay and if it sells I will get the new one as a replacement.

robio said:

My thought was, "time has been tough for Ratchet."

edgecrusher said:

Ravenprose said:

I don't believe this 'new, slightly upgraded 360' nonsense at all. Why would Microsoft split their market in two like that? They are not that desparate . . . yet. If anything, I could see them releasing an Xbox 360 Slim with Natal next year, but that's about it. They won't change the CPU/GPU for a long while yet.

They wouldn't be splitting the market.

The rumor is that its going to work like PC, where Natal will be released on both 360 and the newer machine, and all future games will be playable on both but will run and look better on the newer machine.

So the games will recognise the specs limits of both systems and adjust. This way nobody is being left out so there's no split in the market.

 Hmm, that's interesting. I still don't believe it, though.