I'm usually fine with Nintendo's hardware updates, but the DSi is particularly insulting.  A rather lousy camera, and features that could have been applied as an add-on to the DS as it is.  Instead in order to actually download games, they're going to tell to current owners to buy a new one?

I TOLD YOU ALL! I TOLD YOU THAT NINTENDO WOULD HAVE A CONFERENCE LATER ON AND THAT E3 IS NOW POINTLESS! BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ALL WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME!

iga_bobovic said:

punk rebel ecks said:

A sequel to Odin Sphere and Sin & Punishment? Good God!

  Muramasa, is an action game right? I would not call in a sequel!

Do you guys know the background of Muramasa? I explained it earlier, but I think it was ignored!

It's a spritual sequel much how Odin Sphere was to Princess Crown.

punk rebel ecks said:

A sequel to Odin Sphere and Sin & Punishment? Good God!

Wow, Oboro. See this is what I'm talking about with regards to taste. Some people will shrug at this game, others will cream their pants.

archangel3371 said:

I guess the SD card fix isn't too bad for now but I'd still prefer the HDD approach because it's so much more space for less money plus it would hopefully open the door for download Wii game demos and videos. .

The solution sounds like ass, or good, depending on your sources. If you can actually play VC games from the SD card than cool. If you actually have to delete your onboard wii memory and copy it across from an SD card then it is complete ASS.

punk rebel ecks said:

I TOLD YOU ALL! I TOLD YOU THAT NINTENDO WOULD HAVE A CONFERENCE LATER ON AND THAT E3 IS NOW POINTLESS! BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ALL WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME!

I said that because of E3's change more games would be announced at TGS and to be patient, especially because of the timing of E3 and how nintendo rushed out all their great franchises just before E3.

This conference has great stuff but it's still not enough for me personally. I want to see some more 3rd parties committing to bigger games and 3 Retro studios architects leaving worries me. Wonder what this cosmic rider game is like? It better not be some on rails kirby type racing game.

gamingeek said:

iga_bobovic said:

What if the when you click on the game saved in the SD card, the game is loaded automatcally to the Wii? Play another game and another game is loaded to the Wii.

Marumasa and Sin and Punishment is like sex with Zemanova and Ozawa together at the same, while riding a bike full speed over a ramp, jumping over a tank filled with robot sharks that fire lasers from their frickng eyes, while playing the ukelele. Yep, that awesome!

That could actually work very well with VC games apart from N64 games which take minutes to download. But it would be pretty useless for WiiWare games or any 3-D game with a larger file size.

Well than they have to do it in steps, level for level if you will. That would explain why it is taking so long, they probably have to optimize all the N64 and Wiiware game to be able to do it! Or not!

Iga, talk me about Muramasa.

And do it while you get naked.

Actually, I missed that part about the missing GBA slot. I guess a Lite offers better value.

dVader thanks for the synopsis to the Nintendo conference, I wasn't following it as it was happening so it was quite overwhelming to come here and find all of that suddenly.

i'm excited about a lot of what I read, especially things like the new Endless Ocean game, also the new DS i guess, i'm a sucker i admit it ... i have a fat original, a dslite and i see me getting one of these new ones if i am still financially sound in these uncertain times we're going through.  The Punch-Out announcement is kind of wasted on me as I haven't played either of the old punch-outs but it's nice to observe the excitement.  I was wishing the revived Nintendo franchise though would be F-zero or PilotWings and for that reason i'm more sad than i am happy about Punch-Out.  A new Sin and Punishment ... and one with Wii controls is definitely a buy for me also.

Iga ... while you're naked ... i too need some info regarding the Odin Sphere/Oboru line of games.  That game you said Odin Sphere was a spiritual sequel to, how old is it?  what machine was it on?  how would it compare to odin sphere today?

... and how could i forget Mario and Luigi 3, the first two (especially superstar saga) are among my favourite games ever

gamingeek said:

dvader said:

I hate Wii Music, I hate it with a passion.  I will not allow you to destory a good conference, be gone foul beast and give us back our Miyamoto!

I think a lot of gamers are unreasonably hating Wii Music. I don't think it's suppossed to be in the vein of these other rhythm titles. There are people out there who don't want things too complex or to have to match beats with icons. They also dont want to learn to play real instruments, but they want to be able to tool around and have relaxing fun. I see Wii Music as a non-conventional game, almost a muscial toy. I don't know if anyone has played Warioware touched, but it has all these "toys" you can earn that are a good example.

Personally I have wanted the Wii Drums for a long time, if the game lets me jam to my own music via SD card I may bite. But I hear that the new Guitar hero Wii version is going all out including some wii music type features.

iga_bobovic said:

gamingeek said:

Personally though they need to screw this DSi thing and do a gba cart with an inbuild web browser for the existing DS and have a SD card sub-port in there too.

The gba had freaking third party flash drives which you could download stuff onto carts and use it on your gba to play games. Don't tell me that nintendo as a huge company can't do something similar.

The Wii storage solution is expected and actually I'm pretty happy with it. You can get 2gb cards really cheaply, but why the long wait to spring 09 for this shit? And that's Japan so the rest of the world will wait longer than that.

Maybe they will do that for the current DS lite owners. IGN says there is only a single touchscreen, that is good, the DSi is therefore not splitting the market. They just have to realese a camera and SD cart for the normal DS.

Yeah, they need to. There are even gba cart adaptor things for DS already that can play and store movies and music and stuff. It's easy enough to put an sdcard reader into a gba sized cart and interface it with DS. The lack of a gba drive on the DSi could possibly mean that gameboy games and gba games will be on DSiWare.

foolz said:

OMG!

Endless Ocean 2!

I know. With this and Animal Crossing, all it will take is an elebits sequel to have me roll around like a pig in filth.

iga_bobovic said:

GG do not worry about the bickering, look behind the insults and you will see that we were not just trolling, but heaving a heated and good debate. Besides you know Vader and me do it only for the make-up sex. Archangel had a nice point, I shall adress it now!

Me and Archie had a debate last weekend but we were civil, like two english gents slapping each other lightly, with gloves on the cheek, then having afternoon tea.

You guys are like WWE wrestlers in the ring, showing off your man boobs. GG does not like man boobs

*cups own breasts*

Yeah it was a pretty good fight, he took a few swings, I countered. But some things were said that I just have trouble even comprehending, that Edge post pretty much described it perfectly.

As for Wii Music, for all I know its an awesome game, I dont care. What it is for me is a symbol. Its a symbol of everything I dont want from Nintendo.  Now they are making a freaking ton of money off of it so by all means do it, just dont put so much focus on it, its like turning a knife wound.  For instance showcase Punch-Out as much as you would Wii Music, balance it out.  Bah they are a business, they are doing what is right for them doesn't mean I have to like it. But yeah I am going to have complete irrational hate toward Wii music.