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Have you ever Kickstarted? Would you ever consider it?
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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:31:35
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Trust is the issue with me, I'm unfamiliar with the way it works. I considered the Shadow of the Eternals kickstarter and would probably contribute to Shenmue 3.

What game would you actually kickstart?

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:17:13
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Is Shadow of the Eternals = Eternal Darkness 2?  If so I would definitely pay money toward kickstarting that.

Also:

No More Heroes 3 (I know that's what Killer is Me is but ... Travis Touchdown fuck yeah!)

Metroid Dread

Sin & Punishment 3 (for IGA)

Wave Race U

Trauma Center 4

Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2

Endless Ocean 3 (for GG)

Flower 2 (for Robio)

Noby Noby 2 (for Steel)

The next Tetsuya Mizuguchi game whatever it may be

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:39:16
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Yes SOTEternals is Eternal Darkness 2 but you missed the kickstarter while you were away. It failed but Steam greenlit it recently.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:20:59
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I just donated to a Kickstarter to get an English translation for The Mysterious Cities of Gold. I've been looking forward to it quite a bit (it will likely suck but that's okay), so I jumped at the chance to do so. That had a low goal of only $30K though, and the game was going to be completed either way so I felt any risks were minimal.

One thing I do like about the Kickstarter program though is that if the project fails to meet its goal amount the donators get their money back. I haven't heard of too many stories about programs being abused and people being ripped off. I have a friend who has backed over a dozen programs and he's gotten everything he's been promised. I think the real key is to just carefully evaluate what you donate to, and make sure that you're either very passionate about the project or you feel you're getting good value for your donation.

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I would like to note that I do think it can be abused though by people who refuse to risk their own money to do a project. Zach Braff was a notable example of this a few months back. He did a 2 million dollar kickstarter to fund a movie he wanted to do. Now he's a guy that has his own money (Scrubs has been in syndication for over 7 years now and that's got to be worth something), he has contacts, and he has a reputation. He could have found private backers for his movie, but he felt either it would take too long to do that or he'd have to compromise somewhere along the way so he went with public funding. I personally don't like that. (plus did you see Garden State? God what a piece of shit that was). I feel that's abusing the idea of this since Kickstarter was intended for people with ideas and plans who needed help with the revenue.

I think Inafune has a solid case for doing a Kickstarter. I don''t know how hard it is to get funding for a video game, but I have to believe it's not easy otherwise I think we'd seee more bigger names going the independent route.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:37:16
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Why don't publishers do kickstarters? If it were an official thing like SEGA said, pledge your cash we aim to get X amount of people pledging to make new game in the X franchise I would be much more likely to support it.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:39:11
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I don't think I'd ever pledge money based on some 3 minute clip and some mildly familiar name.  However, I would gladly pay for most of the games Bugs mentionned should they ever be released.  Although I'm not too sure about NMH3.  The first is one of the greatest cult hits of this gen, but the second was all kinds of wrong and shouldn't have seen the light of day.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:40:29
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Why don't publishers do kickstarters? If it were an official thing like SEGA said, pledge your cash we aim to get X amount of people pledging to make new game in the X franchise I would be much more likely to support it.

Would you trust a publisher enough to give them your money 3 years in advance of a game releasing?

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:49:28
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gamingeek said:

Why don't publishers do kickstarters? If it were an official thing like SEGA said, pledge your cash we aim to get X amount of people pledging to make new game in the X franchise I would be much more likely to support it.

I think there are some requirements and rules in place to prevent major corporations from doing them, at least through Kickstarter and other similar services. Again, the principle behind Kickstarter is for small groups to design or create something that they would be unable to get financial backing for otherwise. Sega could fund anything they wanted. They just chose not to. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some legal and/or tax rammifications as well.

Plus I think there's some potential PR nightmares involved if a big company tried to do one. Think how it would look if they failed to meet their goal for funding. Plus it could devalue their stock as well if there was a perception that they needed public funding.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:54:49

To the original question, no. I am too lazy and secondly too distrustful.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:59:08

I helped fund a Kickstarter for one of my favorite authors: A. Lee. Martinez last May. He had been asked by the fans of his work for many years to do sequels to his books. He doesn't do sequels, though, preferring to create a new world with new characters with each new book that he writes. However, shortly after he sent his 10th book to his publisher last spring, he decided to write a short-story collection where each story would be set in the world of each of his 10 books. I had absolutely no problem kicking in my $10 for an Ebook copy, which should be available in late October. Happy

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:01:06
SupremeAC said:

Would you trust a publisher enough to give them your money 3 years in advance of a game releasing?

If there was som guarantee I would get my money back if it never released, then yes.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:06:25
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I don't think I'd ever pledge money based on some 3 minute clip and some mildly familiar name.  However, I would gladly pay for most of the games Bugs mentionned should they ever be released.  Although I'm not too sure about NMH3.  The first is one of the greatest cult hits of this gen, but the second was all kinds of wrong and shouldn't have seen the light of day.

I liked NMH2 well enough and enjoyed most of the boss fights but I thought the first one was vastly superior.  I spent huge amounts of time collecting stuff and doing contracts etc in the first one and I hated that those were replaced by shitty 8bit games in the sequel (I hated all of them except for "the steak game").  GG and some other people thought NMH2 was better but they're just wrong.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:17:40
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I liked NMH2 well enough and enjoyed most of the boss fights but I thought the first one was vastly superior.  I spent huge amounts of time collecting stuff and doing contracts etc in the first one and I hated that those were replaced by shitty 8bit games in the sequel (I hated all of them except for "the steak game"). GG and some other people thought NMH2 was better but they're just wrong.

Oh no!  surprise  How can they all be so deluded?  The only battles in NMH2 that could stand in the shadow of those in the original were those against Margaret Moonlight and that women with the mechanical spider arms and multiple laserswords.  And then there were those that didn't fit into the story at all, like that hounted house freak and the deranged astronaut.  I remember all of NMH's bosses, but had to look up those of NMH2 just so I could fulminate against them in this thread.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:52:53

You since it's topical, I'd Kickstart Whore of the Orient. It's going to be a real shame if the LA Noire engine falls into oblivion.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:00:09
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I would like to note that I do think it can be abused though by people who refuse to risk their own money to do a project. Zach Braff was a notable example of this a few months back. He did a 2 million dollar kickstarter to fund a movie he wanted to do. Now he's a guy that has his own money (Scrubs has been in syndication for over 7 years now and that's got to be worth something), he has contacts, and he has a reputation. He could have found private backers for his movie, but he felt either it would take too long to do that or he'd have to compromise somewhere along the way so he went with public funding. I personally don't like that. (plus did you see Garden State? God what a piece of shit that was). I feel that's abusing the idea of this since Kickstarter was intended for people with ideas and plans who needed help with the revenue.

I think Inafune has a solid case for doing a Kickstarter. I don''t know how hard it is to get funding for a video game, but I have to believe it's not easy otherwise I think we'd seee more bigger names going the independent route.

He was on Howard Stern explaining why he did it. I believe he had ok reasons, I forget them though.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:00:55

Ive already supported 3 games. None are out yet so I cant yet tell you how the end experience is. But I have faith.

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Mon, 02 Sep 2013 18:44:09

You will be my test case, be sure to report back what happens with each game. So what games did you back?

With Kickstarter, say they raise 100 dollars, what happens if they run out of money halfway into development? Do they ask for more or does the project close down and does everyone get their money back? How is this done? Insurance schemes?

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Tue, 03 Sep 2013 03:44:38

Never kickstarted, but I funded the pressing of a vinyl record on Pozzible. Went better than advertised: CD included instead of MP3s. Only downside was the Pozzible spam.

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Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:31:38
Looks like we can add Rivercity Ransom to the list of Kickstarter projects.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/combitstudios/river-city-ransom-underground

The promotion video is pretty painful to watch, but this actually is for a licensed sequel. On one hand I'm excited, but on the other hand is it really that hard to find a publisher? They're not looking for much. I am confused.
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