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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:48:59
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Here's the site

http://zero4.higashinoeden.com/help/help.html

I'll be trying it out soon.


-installed it and it's working perfectly. They did a great job.

And I see what the reviewers were talking about when they were mentioning the controls. Makes me think of the Skycrawler controls. The joystick moves your character forward and backward (up and down) and left or right turns you (on the spot) in that direction. You move the remote to pan up or down - and the flashlight isn't controlled by where you point or anything like silent hill. I can see why they would use this setup when you're combating ghosts - I imagine you'll have a little bit more of a vertical playfield than previous games.

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:23:41
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No modding needed?!

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:35:37
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Foolz said:
No modding needed?!

not sure, i think it goes without saying.  it's not been released outside japan has it?

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:34:49
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Nice. Now I need to hear if the game is worth all this effort.

Wonder if Nazi-tendo will disable it somehow?

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:39:16
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gamingeek said:

Nice. Now I need to hear if the game is worth all this effort.

Wonder if Nazi-tendo will disable it somehow?

LOL

You underestimate the power of the hackers

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:54:32
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No real modding needing. It does use bannerbomb to install what it needs I believe but it's the simplest most non evasive modding that you can do. They guarantee it can't brick your wii plus you can uninstall if you need to send it in to nintendo.
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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:18:47
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angrymonkey said:
No real modding needing. It does use bannerbomb to install what it needs I believe but it's the simplest most non evasive modding that you can do. They guarantee it can't brick your wii plus you can uninstall if you need to send it in to nintendo.

 My wii is in for repair already. I cant risk F-ing it up for another repair. They charge. 

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:50:09
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That sucks.  I'm just planning on playing it and meanwhile not updating my wii . When I'm done I'll uninstall it.
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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:51:14
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angrymonkey said:
That sucks.  I'm just planning on playing it and meanwhile not updating my wii . When I'm done I'll uninstall it.

Then sell it?

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:05:06
I don't usually sell or trade in many games.Usually just sports titles or mistakes.
I might but I'll take so long to finish (plus my girlfriend wants to play it), that I don't know if anyone would be interested anymore.

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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:31:30
So can you explain the torch controls a bit better? No IR?

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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:42:07
Just the usual way - the light is projected infront of your character so you have to move your character to move the light. You don't have separate control over where it goes so you can't stand still and shine a light everywhere like silent hill. Which is too bad since if it was ir pointing they could utilize darker areas like silent hill does or even like some levels in the resident evil lightgun games.( I like those pitch black zombie sections) But I'm getting used to games not utilizing seemingly obvious ir functions(like little king's story) Doesn't hurt the game. They did utilize the microphone once. It's funny how glacially slow games have been in utilizing some aspects of the remote. Not enough great ir pointing and microphone usage yet.

Seen a few of the ghosts already. Nothing really jumping out yet but it's looking promising. I had the sound too low, the next time I play I'll have to crank it - great sound is a hallmark of this series. Graphics are like I remember from the PS2 - which is good but also too bad. Of course it did come out a year and a half ago - it would have stood out a lot better then. I'm really puzzled why it didn't get released - but maybe there's problems with it that I haven't seen yet.

And the characters run as slow as ever. Run damn you - run...
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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:56:36

So I mean you push left on the stick and the torch moves left, right for right. But when you push forward and back doesn't your character move forwards and back?

How do you manipulate the torch to go up and down and scan around? I heard in the japanese review you had to rotate your wrist or something weird.

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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:47:58
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So I mean you push left on the stick and the torch moves left, right for right. But when you push forward and back doesn't your character move forwards and back?

Ah - the light just shoots out infront of your character. You control your characters viewpoint - not the light really. So if you push the joystick left your character spins left and the light will spin left as well. You push up or down your character does move forward and back but the light won't really change since its just shooting out infront of your character.

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How do you manipulate the torch to go up and down and scan around? I heard in the japanese review you had to rotate your wrist or something weird.

Yes, the weird thing is that the remote controls  your up and down viewpoint. You keep it pointed straight ahead parallel to the ground for a standard view.Think of it as your head with a line of sight parallel to the floor.
But if you tilt it at an angle so that the ir pointer is pointing upwards (like it was your head and you were looking up, your viewpoint in the game tilts upwards. Do the opposite to look at the floor. (for a standard over the shoulder viewpoint of your character you might have to point down slightly )
It is kind of fussy but not complicated. I just can't explain very well. I'll see how well this works in the heat of the moment ghost fighting. I do like that if you shake the remote you get a 180 turn.
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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:05:15


Ah right I see, doesn't sound too bad.

Do you feel any Suda like influences yet?

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Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:59:09

gamingeek said:

Do you feel any Suda like influences yet?

No but I'm not sure what areas he would have been working on or what to look for. maybe i'd have a better idea if i had played that michigan game they did.

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Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:50:27

angrymonkey said:
I don't usually sell or trade in many games.Usually just sports titles or mistakes.
I might but I'll take so long to finish (plus my girlfriend wants to play it), that I don't know if anyone would be interested anymore.

I can wait if it's cheap. Nyaa

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Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:54
So where can I get this.....  for $10. Nyaa
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Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:48:01
Maybe this book can help.

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Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:01:59
That's Vaders bedtime reading.

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