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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:09:07
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Nintendo doesn't make high production games. Like they literally have never made one. They have never made a game that costs around $30 million to create. Metroid is mid-tier budget at best. And even considering that, outside of the two Prime games, which even then is arguable, Metroid has never been that high on the production totem. Other M was relatively low production from what I've played. Hunters wasn't high production. I don't think you realize how insane games like Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed cost that justify them to sell over 7 million copies.

Metroid Prime on the Gamecube was mid-tier? It was by far one of the best looking and sounding games of the generation...most people thought it looked better than most Xbox games. This is what people expect from a Metroid game...they expect it to be one of the top games not just gameplay wise, but graphically. Just like they expect from a new Tomb Raider, or DOOM, or anything of that nature. Other M I'll give you....it was mid tier. Felt more like a side game while waiting for a REAL new game. But for a production like the Prime games, that's money.

Granted, the last one they did was on the Wii using Gamecube tech, so that saved them some cash there. But if they were to come out with a new Metroid in the vien of Prime, say as an NX game and it was one of the best looking, biggest games out there like Prime was in 2002 & it only sold say 1.5 million copies, you think they would make money on that? In this day and age?

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:45:53

Punk DKCR sold upwards of 6 million copies, it's a massive hit. It's why retro would probably never go back to metroid. DK costs less and makes way more. Edge is mostly right, metroid financials make no sense. I feel metroid would do better on the other consoles.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:29:05

I want my new Prime game. 😭 Screw everyone who didn't buy the others. 😭

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 16:02:26
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Metroid Prime on the Gamecube was mid-tier? It was by far one of the best looking and sounding games of the generation...most people thought it looked better than most Xbox games. This is what people expect from a Metroid game...they expect it to be one of the top games not just gameplay wise, but graphically. Just like they expect from a new Tomb Raider, or DOOM, or anything of that nature. Other M I'll give you....it was mid tier. Felt more like a side game while waiting for a REAL new game. But for a production like the Prime games, that's money.

Granted, the last one they did was on the Wii using Gamecube tech, so that saved them some cash there. But if they were to come out with a new Metroid in the vien of Prime, say as an NX game and it was one of the best looking, biggest games out there like Prime was in 2002 & it only sold say 1.5 million copies, you think they would make money on that? In this day and age?

Graphics aren't what cost games a lot of money. PC mods regularly have the best graphics in the entire indusry and people do them for free. I mean hell here is Metroid with cutting edge graphics right here. Just hire an artistic director and you're done. What costs games a lot of money are professionally done scores, cutscenes, massive overworlds, hundreds of hours of side content, etc. Yes, Metroid Prime was top-tier in the Gamecube days when it comes to presentation, but that was almost fifteen years ago. That is as relevant as saying Sonic the Hedgehog was a big budget game back in the early '90s, therefore a new entry in the 2D series would be a big budget entry today. Metroid Prime devolves from the classic Metroid formula of exploring a dungeon of multiple connected corridors. This may have been cutting edge in the early '90s but in the modern era, but in today's gaming world it is actually quite simple to execute, just take talent to polish it up to the level's Metroid.

Now I'm not saying making a 3D Metroid game on the NX would be cheap, but it would be more similar in terms of cost with say Star Fox Zero than it would be with The Division. In short a new Metroid on the NX would absolutely make money in this day in age.

EDIT - Metroid Prime on the Gamecube sold 2.84 million units.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 16:54:50
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I want my new Prime game. 😭 Screw everyone who didn't buy the others. 😭

I also want a proper new 2D Metroid.  I would take handheld, or even a download only game on WiiU.  I'd prefer it on 3DS though as I think it could look glorious utilising 3D technology for backgrounds etc.

Like back when they released Fusion almost alongside Prime.  It was at that time when I bought a GBA and a Gamecube within a very short amount of time.  And in a sense it was what got me back into gaming.  To this day I love them equally and would like more of both.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:40:55
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Graphics aren't what cost games a lot of money. PC mods regularly have the best graphics in the entire indusry and people do them for free. I mean hell here is Metroid with cutting edge graphics right here. Just hire an artistic director and you're done. What costs games a lot of money are professionally done scores, cutscenes, massive overworlds, hundreds of hours of side content, etc. Yes, Metroid Prime was top-tier in the Gamecube days when it comes to presentation, but that was almost fifteen years ago. That is as relevant as saying Sonic the Hedgehog was a big budget game back in the early '90s, therefore a new entry in the 2D series would be a big budget entry today. Metroid Prime devolves from the classic Metroid formula of exploring a dungeon of multiple connected corridors. This may have been cutting edge in the early '90s but in the modern era, but in today's gaming world it is actually quite simple to execute, just take talent to polish it up to the level's Metroid.

Now I'm not saying making a 3D Metroid game on the NX would be cheap, but it would be more similar in terms of cost with say Star Fox Zero than it would be with The Division. In short a new Metroid on the NX would absolutely make money in this day in age.

EDIT - Metroid Prime on the Gamecube sold 2.84 million units.

You missed my point.

Right, Metroid Prime was a long time ago. And to achieve the same wow factor in a new Metroid today, it would cost them bank. BTW those Metroid sales are from 15 years as well. The first few years it was under 2 mil...I remember reading about it on IGN. And each one has sold worse.

At least Retro is still doing SOMETHING. If they were owned by Microsoft they probably would have went the way of Lionhead.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:09:31
travo said:

I want my new Prime game. 😭 Screw everyone who didn't buy the others. 😭

I only bought the Prime games outside of Zero Mission on GBA and Super Metroid on the Wii Virtual Console.

I bought Metroid Prime, Prime 2: Echoes, Prime 3: Corruption and Metroid Prime Trilogy.

I didn't get the Wii U version of Prime Trilogy.

I do want a new one. Though I personally want Retro to make a new IP first before going back to Metroid or Donkey Kong.

I also loved their Donkey Kong games as well.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 20:23:54

This week has been a Square Enix week for me.  I'm about halfway through Life is Strange, an engaging story with the cool PoP rewind mechanic.  It's certainly worth checking out.  

I've also returned to Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition for my action fix.  The game is still incredible. What about you adventurers?

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 20:54:43

Bitches keep arguing about Metroid. Meanwhile some of us are waiting by our mailbox for the next issue of Nintendo Power to announce Startropics 3...

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:43:22
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Bitches keep arguing about Metroid. Meanwhile some of us are waiting by our mailbox for the next issue of Nintendo Power to announce Startropics 3...

Let the dream die man, just let it go.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:27:44

These two for me:

Confession time: I ended up NOT liking Phantom Pain very much at all. I finished the first Act and had more than enough. Was itching for a stealth game though and picked up TLoU PS4 again and have been enjoying that. Travs, I got your Multiplayer Request, but I literally just started playing again; haven't touched multi since the PS3 version, so I wasn't quite ready for online yet.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:46:20
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Let the dream die man, just let it go.

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Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:47:36

I'm actually not sure what I'm playing now. I finished up Kirby's Return to Dreamland. I got my ass handed to me so badly in Darkest Dungeon that it completely killed my interest in the game. I'll play some Hearthstone, but aside from that I probably won't play much until this Friday when Pokken comes out.

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