Dvader said:

also their refusal to even try a new IP is backfiring. There are people that simply don't want to play the same Nintendo franchises anymore, one or two mature like games would do wonders for the goodwill of many gamers. And if you get some of those gamers to buy a Nintendo console they may try the new Mario and realize these games are still pretty awesome. And then maybe third parties wouldn't avoid the system like the plague.

Exactly and this is another reason why it sucks so bad that they don't have Rare anymore. Or a company like Silicon Knights producing mature exclusives.

Coming up with a new innovative Mario, Zelda, and Metroid is great and all...but when that's mainly what you've been offering for 20 years people just want something different no matter how innovative they are. This would be like if all Sony had was God Of War, Zillzone and LittleBigPlanet and all Microsoft had was Halo, Fable and Gears...eventually people would say fuck this and move on. But they have those on top of shitloads of 3rd-party games, so its fine.

Nintendo back in the N64 days was not much different than they are now. The difference was, they had a company called Rare producing NEW INNOVATIVE IP under the Nintendo label to compliment Mario and Zelda. Nintendo doesn't have that anymore...and the one developer they have that could possibly take Rare's place is stuck working on Rare's Donkey Kong blueprint since Rare isn't around to do it themsevles.

And their 3rd-party support isn't even as good as it was in the Gamecube days IMO...so they don't have that to fall back on either.

It's very sad to hear about Ryan Davis passing away. I always liked him.

IGN said his cause of death hasn't been released yet.

edgecrusher said:

Exactly and this is another reason why it sucks so bad that they don't have Rare anymore. Or a company like Silicon Knights producing mature exclusives.

Coming up with a new innovative Mario, Zelda, and Metroid is great and all...but when that's mainly what you've been offering for 20 years people just want something different no matter how innovative they are. This would be like if all Sony had was God Of War, Zillzone and LittleBigPlanet and all Microsoft had was Halo, Fable and Gears...eventually people would say fuck this and move on. But they have those on top of shitloads of 3rd-party games, so its fine.

Nintendo back in the N64 days was not much different than they are now. The difference was, they had a company called Rare producing NEW INNOVATIVE IP under the Nintendo label to compliment Mario and Zelda. Nintendo doesn't have that anymore...and the one developer they have that could possibly take Rare's place is stuck working on Rare's Donkey Kong blueprint since Rare isn't around to do it themsevles.

And their 3rd-party support isn't even as good as it was in the Gamecube days IMO...so they don't have that to fall back on either.

I agree. Retro should be that team but for some reason they are stuck making the same IPs.

Ravenprose said:

IGN said his cause of death hasn't been released yet.

Yeah nothing yet. Some think its going to end up being some bad mix of medication he took or something.

It will be so maddening if it's a case of taking the wrong combinations of meds and/ or alcohol.

aspro said:

Yep that sounds about right. Great game that is.  Trying to reconcile where to put it in this generation, in terms of greatness.  But it is certainly in my all-time top 8.  One of these days Naughty Dog is going to make an 8.5 game and people are going to freak out.  Every game they make can't be a 9-10, right?

I'll freak out if they make an 8.5 game, let alone a 9-10. Not going to happen with the genres they've chosen this gen. I'm including The Last of Us in that.

Dvader said:

Foolz said:

I'll freak out if they make an 8.5 game, let alone a 9-10. Not going to happen with the genres they've chosen this gen. I'm including The Last of Us in that.

The last FTL game I had was insane. I had just unlocked a new ship, my crew was me, Leo and Aspro. I quickly got two new crew members, I have never had such a well populated ship. I was kicking everythings ass, it was going to be the perfect game. A ship gave me a mission, take drones to a spot on the map. That spot was all the way at the edge of the map, beyond the exit point (which you must reach before a rebel fleet reaches you. So i easily get to the exit and decide to try to finish the mission.

So I go and all of a sudden a bunch of crazed infected people attack, they kill one of the crew and invade my ship. Now I am being attacked by a ton of guys, everyone is dying. Aspro is murdered. Leo and I some how survive. So I went from a full ship to just two crew members, the ship is a mess and I need to reach the exit. Well I had to go back to reach the exit but the rebel fleet caught up. So I had to sit there and power my engines while being battered with missles and lasers. Leo and I had to run from room to room as systems went down, fires broke out, it was a mess. But we escaped barely.

My perfect game ruined, my ship almost destroyed, Leo and I set off to the most dangerous sector in the galaxy. We are boarded a bunch of times by evil mantis monsters. I dont know how but we fought off at least 5 invasions, just the two of us, it was crazy. Finally I got some repairs, things got better and I made it pretty far. I attacked the wrong ship one time and got destroyed.