gamingeek said:

You should just get Overkill on Wii then, it must be $10 by now.

gamingeek said:

US one step closer to devastating Xbox 360 ban

Microsoft, which has defied all major outcomes of the case, has warned the ITC that banning Xbox 360 across the US would not serve the public interest, because it would leave the market with a choice between PlayStation 3 and Nintendo’s Wii.






He believes Microsoft should not only cease Xbox imports from China, as well as ban general sale of the console across the country, but also pay Motorola Mobility 7 per cent of the value of any unsold systems remaining in stores.

So they would have to pay 7% to motorola for unsold units, how much for the millions sold already?

Maybe they should start making the fucking console in the USA and bring the country some much needed jobs? Oh that's right...then they would have to pay the workers a reasonable income.

gamingeek said:

Microsoft, which has defied all major outcomes of the case, has warned the ITC that banning Xbox 360 across the US would not serve the public interest, because it would leave the market with a choice between PlayStation 3 and Nintendo’s Wii.


?

Which would leave console gamers without the ability to play how many games? About 5%?

Halo, Forza, Fable, and Rare's stuff.

gamingeek said:

edgecrusher said:

The new Ghost Recon came out yesterday on consoles, PC version is June 12th.

Advanced Warfighter was an awesome game on the 360 back in the day...one of the 1st great games on the system. Some really fun multi-player too. I'm gonna have to get this one soon.

I cannot be bothered to post reviews for this game.

Here are 28 reviews, the average review is 80/100

Reading a few rviews I can't figure out if people find the game better or worse than the Advanced Warfighter games from 5 years back. Need to play for myself. I think I'm gonna get the PC version....I just hope there not doing that stupid "let's make a different game on every format" crap that they are known for.

Dvader said:

Where the he'll did that MS lawsuit cone from, banning sales of 360 WTF?! It seems like MS started the lawsuit how come it got reversed and now they are in trouble? I don't get where the jump is made from motorola having parts in all MS devices to banning 360.

With patent disputes, the alleged infringer will often preemptively sue the patent owner in order for the legal battle to take place in the preferred legal setting (country, state).  The jump would be that they don't have license to distribute products with that patent.

Yodariquo said:

While it's not quite the same scope, remember that Sony had to pull the dualshock from retail in the US.  It's entirely possible.

aspro said:

360 ban will never happen. Thst internayional body's opinion has no binding in the US.



And the Dualshock was not banned. Sony chose to remove vibration to avoid paying royalties to Immersion. Ultimately they chose to pay them off.

Not true!

They removed the vibration because it would interfere with the motion controls, and because nobody cared about vibration anymore, being a last gen technology.

edgecrusher said:

Which would leave console gamers without the ability to play how many games? About 5%?

Halo, Forza, Fable, and Rare's stuff.

Hey if they paid US workers more cash it means you as a consumer might have to pay more for the console.

Dvader said:

Where the he'll did that MS lawsuit cone from, banning sales of 360 WTF?! It seems like MS started the lawsuit how come it got reversed and now they are in trouble? I don't get where the jump is made from motorola having parts in all MS devices to banning 360.

Seems like MS uses a lot of other peoples patents like rumble in the original Xbox. From what I read they use a bunch of Motorola stuff but are not willing to pay the licensing costs that Motorola wants, so they just use the patents anyway and hope to drag out a legal case. By the time this case is settled the nextbox will be out and it wont mean shit. Unless the judge orders MS to back pay Motorola:

"Microsoft alleges that Motorola Mobility breached contract by demanding “unreasonable licensing fees” for use of the patents. It is believed the royalty rate would have been 2.25 per cent for each unit sale, something which is argued would cost Microsoft some $4 billion each year."

aspro said:

360 ban will never happen. Thst internayional body's opinion has no binding in the US.


And the Dualshock was not banned. Sony chose to remove vibration to avoid paying royalties to Immersion. Ultimately they chose to pay them off.

Because they knew they would lose the case. They essentially DID lose the case several times, kept appealing and would have been screwed if they didn't settle:

Sony vs Immersion

While Microsoft settled out of court, purchasing a 10% share in Immersion,[3] Sony continued to defend the case. Immersion's lead attorney in this case was Morgan Chu.[4] The defense centered on a force feedback controller patent which Sony licensed from Logitech during 1998.[citation needed] Sony lost, with the jury awarding Immersion $82 million[5] for the seven years that the DualShock controller had been on the market,[citation needed] which with the judge's addition of pre-judgment interest and costs, totalled $90.7 million.[5] In addition, the judgment required Sony to suspend the sale of all controllers containing Immersion-patented technology, including all PlayStation and PlayStation 2 console packages. Sony appealed this decision and has been able to sell its products while the appeal was being heard. On 2006-03-12 Sony lost the appeal at the US District Court level and subsequently appealed to the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.[6] The order to halt sales of the infringing controllers was again stayed pending the outcome of the appeal.

At E3 2006, Sony announced that vibration functionality would be removed from the PlayStation 3 controller, reasoning that the vibration would interfere with the motion-sensing feature of the controller. It has been speculated that the removal of vibration is related to the lawsuit,[7] and Immersion President Victor Viegas has been dismissive of Sony's stated rationale.[8]


On March 1, 2007, Sony Computer Entertainment and Immersion Corporation announced that both companies have agreed to end their patent litigation, and have entered a business agreement to "explore the inclusion of Immersion technology in PlayStation format products."[9] As part of the agreement reached between the two companies, Immersion will receive the full amount dictated by the District Court, which with interest is stated to total $97.2 million, in addition to royalties. On top of the $30.6 million in compulsory license fees which Sony had paid Immersion over the previous two years, Sony will make 12 more licensing payments through the end of 2009 totaling $22.5 million, during which other royalties may also be paid.[5] The agreement also provides Sony with new rights with respect to Immersion's patents. The termination of the litigation will have no material impact on Sony's consolidated earnings forecast announced on January 30, 2007.[9]

Yeah, they lost, they paid, they had to.

Immersion got everything to court demanded and more.