robio said:

gamingeek said:

Valve

High Voltage's The Grinder has effectively been labeled as "Left 4 Dead on the Wii," focusing as it does on co-op undead shooting action. High Voltage definitely wants to bring that kind of game to the white waggle box, but when we asked the Left 4 Dead developer how it felt about The Grinder, we were met with what can best be described as hopeful skepticism.

I read this and kind of thought, "what a dick."  They keep focusing on how friends meet up to play the game with one another.  That's great and was really well done, but even if the Wii's method is much cruder it doesn't really affect the gameplay now does it?  

I just have this feeling that Faliszek really just wanted to come out and say, "no fair they're copying our idea!!!" but that complaint got thrown out the window as a legitimate gripe in gaming about 20 years ago, so now all he can do is focus on one core aspect.  

Still I have little doubt that Left 4 Dead will be the better game, even though the Grinder looks like it should be a lot of fun.

I dont think he's a dick. I understand what he's saying. Basic IMs have a better method of connecting people and seeing if they are online. Wii needs a system to do this across all games. But you can still have online co-operative games and they can still be fun, its just a little more hassle to arrange them with friends. But you can still dive into most online games with strangers anyway like in Mario Kart, Conduit and FPS like MOHH2 etc.

Valve have always come with creative excuses though, like why they dont make PS3 versions of their games for instance. Anyhow, Grinder looks tons better than the Conduit, which I'm selling on ebay as we speak.

Anyhow:

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=220567

Sony CEO and executive VP, Nobuyuki Oneda, has revealed that production costs for the PS3 have dropped since its 2006 release by 70 percent.

"The cost reduction since we introduced the PS3 is very substantial and this is on schedule," said Oneda in a recent investors conference call.

Oneda was cagey on specifics, saying: "We don't disclose how much of the PS3, specifically the cost deduction was achieved during the past two years. But that is on schedule."

But he went on to disclose production costs on the Blu-ray-capable machine are down "about 70%, roughly speaking".

As noted, although Sony never officially revealed the cost price of PS3s at launch, it was widely believed to cost around $800 or around £430 per unit to produce. That puts current cost price at around £140.

So we may see that £299 price tag on 80GB PS3s fall soon.

So where is the f******* price cut godamnit?

robio said:

gamingeek said:

What is all this moustache worshipping? My avatar is of the ultimate facial hair maestro, Ming the Mercilless!

Oh please. The only think faker than Ming's moustache was Flash Gordon's voice (seriously Sam Jones' voice got dubbed over by another guys after filming was done).

fake moustache = fake idol

I watch the cartoon so  your point is mute!

bugsonglass said:

SteelAttack said:

Scribblenauts will be mine as soon as I see it around here. No questions asked. Fuck everything else on the platform.

all due respect to the great tache but ... what has the DS ever done to you?

Oh, nothing. I was just trying to be facetious regarding that as long as I don't have the game, I will pay no attention whatsoever to anything else offered in the platform.

gamingeek said:

Nintendo Wii sales were also slightly up, to 23,995 from 20,807. A further sales increase could be felt in time for next week's chart following the release of the much anticipated Monster Hunter 3 onto the platform on August 1.

Is this actually in doubt? Monster Hunter Tri already has over 1 million presales in Japan.  Wii will hit at least 50K in sales next week. It won't sustain it long, but there's no doubt that the game will push out more consoles in a big way.

bugsonglass said:

scary to think how little the wii must now cost to make and yet it's the first console in history the price of which went up after launch instead of dropping.

they should at the very least bundle sports resort with the motion plus add on (without removing the original wiisports, can't fuck about with that ) with it now

I think the price increase was only in the UK because of the staggering devaluation of the pound thanks to our asslike government. I mean dvds which I used to import for 10 now cost £13 so its almost a third more expensive to import goods. The price increase was £20 and supposedly the price hike only effects the cost the retailers have to pay Nintendo per wii.

I dont think its been passed on to consumers yet.

robio said:

gamingeek said:

Nintendo Wii sales were also slightly up, to 23,995 from 20,807. A further sales increase could be felt in time for next week's chart following the release of the much anticipated Monster Hunter 3 onto the platform on August 1.

Is this actually in doubt? Monster Hunter Tri already has over 1 million presales in Japan.  Wii will hit at least 50K in sales next week. It won't sustain it long, but there's no doubt that the game will push out more consoles in a big way.

Sports resort didn't have a massive impact so it will be interesting to see what Monster Hunter 3 does. Maybe people were aware that MH3 was coming and with an all new colour to boot?

PS3 was boosted for a couple of months by RE5 and Yakuza 3 double whammy.

robio said:

SteelAttack said:

gamingeek said:

robio said:

I read this and kind of thought, "what a dick."  They keep focusing on how friends meet up to play the game with one another.  That's great and was really well done, but even if the Wii's method is much cruder it doesn't really affect the gameplay now does it?  

I just have this feeling that Faliszek really just wanted to come out and say, "no fair they're copying our idea!!!" but that complaint got thrown out the window as a legitimate gripe in gaming about 20 years ago, so now all he can do is focus on one core aspect.  

Still I have little doubt that Left 4 Dead will be the better game, even though the Grinder looks like it should be a lot of fun.

I dont think he's a dick. I understand what he's saying. Basic IMs have a better method of connecting people and seeing if they are online. Wii needs a system to do this across all games. But you can still have online co-operative games and they can still be fun, its just a little more hassle to arrange them with friends. But you can still dive into most online games with strangers anyway like in Mario Kart, Conduit and FPS like MOHH2 etc.

Valve have always come with creative excuses though, like why they dont make PS3 versions of their games for instance. Anyhow, Grinder looks tons better than the Conduit, which I'm selling on ebay as we speak.

He's not a dick. Even if the core gameplay is similar, the whole concept of the game revolves around the basic premise of multiplayer. Arranging such meetings on the Wii is basically fucked up.

And Valve doesn't make PS3 ports because Gabe Newell shits on the platform.

And he's a dick too!

Yeah Steel is right, you need to be able to just be able to see which of your friends are online from the dashboard or from an overlaying menu whilst you're playing a game, any game.

Instead unless you arrange something in advance you basically have to be online and have the same game running at the same time to play friends. Otherwise you play with strangers.

robio said:

Ravenprose said:

Ninja Gaiden (Arcade) Japanese Virtual Console Gameplay

Was Ninja Gaiden arcade that good?  I played it only a few times and never got real far. And frankly I found a lot of entertainment of letting the Continue? screen go down to zero.  

For those of you not in the know, in the arcade game Ryu would be tied to a bench with a buzz saw slowly inching its way closer to his chest as the Continue countdown went from 10 to 0, and the whole time was panicking and had an awesome look of fear on his face.  Once it hit zero the buzz saw hit his chest and the entire screen got coated in blood.  That alone was worth the quarter.

 I thought it was a pretty good beat 'em up. I do think the gamplay of the NES games were a bit better since they focused on platforming more.

Here's a video of that NG "Continue?" scene

bugsonglass said:

is ratchet & clank quest for booty worth getting for £10?
what about disgaea 3 for £17?

gameplay.co.uk has a bit of a sale.  some really cheap X360 games as well GG, like ninja gaiden 2, banjo, and viva pinata paradise for £8 each, or too human for £5

NG2, camera and difficulty.

Banjo, vehicles.

Viva Pinata part-ee? The minigame one?

Too Human .........

I was thinking of getting Overlord 2 and Fable 2 recentely because I love the similar art style in Dark Legend.