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I will NEVER forget coming home from my senior trip and picking up Super Metroid. My family was away for vacation. I could've hosted parties, but I chose to spend a week playing Super Metroid.
I will NEVER forget coming home from my senior trip and picking up Super Metroid. My family was away for vacation. I could've hosted parties, but I chose to spend a week playing Super Metroid.
There was less to clean up that way. Unless of course you REALLY liked Samus.
The Genesis was so overrated. The colours looked so dull when compared to the SNES and the sound on the system was like farts in a tin can. The SNES blew it away with a larger colour palette, markedly better sound capabilities, transparency effects, and of course mode 7 effects. The list of comparable games was so much better for the SNES. Mario over Sonic, Final Fight over Streets of Rage, Final Fantasy over Phantasy Star. Sooooooooo many games were better on the SNES like Sparkster, Contra, Castlevania, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, etc. The SNES had a huge list of fantastic exclusive games as well like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Breath of Fire, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Demon's Crest, the list goes on and on.
The problem is that the SNES games ran like doo doo. Graphics are nice but not if there is constant slow down or low frames per second. Not to mention a lot of the games have aged poorly. Most of the JRPGs on the system are unplayable with poor translations and constant grinding. Pretty much any arcade like game on the system had a far superior Genesis version. And overall playing games on the system felt slow as hell.
The problem with the Genesis is that most of its best games aren't the "mainstream" ones. I'd list them all but then I'd be further spoiling my GOAT list. It's hard to tell people how great Battlemania II or Batman & Robin are if most people haven't played them.
Dvader said:
Every nintendo console three great games, the difference is the others have legendary greatest games of all time calibur games.
Not the Gamecube.
edgecrusher said:
I don't know how some of you don't rate the N64 better. It ushered in 3d gaming (most of the ps1's best games weren't true 3d like the n64's) had a handful of absolutely incredible games every year, solidified the FPS genre on consoles with Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and the Turok series, and gnerally just gave me a hard on.
The problem is that a lot of the Nintendo 64 games didn't age too hot. While Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, and Sin & Punishment are timeless; Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye have aged poorly.
Well in that case my Steam ID (I think) is RobioThePretty.
I only have a handful of games, and one of them is EverQuest. But if the others sound appealing someone feel free to send me a friend request: Bastion, Darkest Dungeon, Heroes of Might and Magic V, and Valkyria Chronicles.
Oh screw this, Genesis had so many awesome games, such a wide variety of stuff. Lets talk sports, what system created John Madden Football the greatest sports game franchise of all time, GENESIS. Which one had awesome boxing games, GENESIS. Which one is where EA became the company we know now, GENESIS. Which had World Series Baseball, GENESIS. NHL93, GENESIS.
Our Mortal Kombat had blood, SNES had a pussy version of the biggest game in the world at the time. Streets of Rage shits on Final Fight, thats not even a contest. Genesis had Ecco the Dolphin, Shinobi, Vectorman, Golden Axe, X-men, the GOOD Aladdin, incredible disney games like the illusion games. It was the action console. Yeah Mario is king, but sonic was right there and it was 4 sonic games to 2 mario games. Plus blast porcessing!!! Slow as SNES.
Genesis does.
Sports games? Yeah they had a better sports library but big whoop.
Sure Mortal Kombat on the Genesis had blood but again, big whoop. It looked, sounded, and played better on SNES.
Puhlease. Final Fight craps all over Streets of Rage, all day, everyday.
Shin obi and Golden Axe were good games but those others while ok don't even hold a candle to most any of the excellent games on the SNES, some of which I've already mentioned.
Sonic was always overrated even on the best of days and to compare him to any Mario game is just embarrassing.
Mutant Apocalypse was the better X-Men game.
Blast processing while a clever marketing ploy was a joke. Sure there were games on the SNES that had some slowdown but it was not that bad plus I'd take the graphic and sound capabilities of it over the Genesis crap graphics and sound and suffer some minor slowdown any day of the week.
The Genesis was so overrated. The colours looked so dull when compared to the SNES and the sound on the system was like farts in a tin can. The SNES blew it away with a larger colour palette, markedly better sound capabilities, transparency effects, and of course mode 7 effects. The list of comparable games was so much better for the SNES. Mario over Sonic, Final Fight over Streets of Rage, Final Fantasy over Phantasy Star. Sooooooooo many games were better on the SNES like Sparkster, Contra, Castlevania, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, etc. The SNES had a huge list of fantastic exclusive games as well like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Breath of Fire, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Demon's Crest, the list goes on and on.
The problem is that the SNES games ran like doo doo. Graphics are nice but not if there is constant slow down or low frames per second. Not to mention a lot of the games have aged poorly. Most of the JRPGs on the system are unplayable with poor translations and constant grinding. Pretty much any arcade like game on the system had a far superior Genesis version. And overall playing games on the system felt slow as hell.
The problem with the Genesis is that most of its best games aren't the "mainstream" ones. I'd list them all but then I'd be further spoiling my GOAT list. It's hard to tell people how great Battlemania II or Batman & Robin are if most people haven't played them.
I never found the slowdown to be that big of a problem, certainly not enough to make me prefer the Genesis version. Compared to the Genesis I was quite satisfied to take the trade off given the capabilities of the SNES. Personally I think the SNES games have aged very well and I have no problem replaying almost of the games that I originally played on the system. Grinding in JRPGs has never been an issue for me. I always found that most any cross platform game the SNES was the superior version.
Meh. I really don't buy into the notion that just because a game is "mainstream" that it somehow isn't as good as a game that isn't. The SNES had a lot of great games that weren't "mainstream" either.
Meh. I really don't buy into the notion that just because a game is "mainstream" that it somehow isn't as good as a game that isn't. The SNES had a lot of great games that weren't "mainstream" either.
My point is that the best Genesis games tend to be very niche. Most of them had a print run that wasn't even five digits. In contrast the best games the Super Nintendo had to offer were huge million sellers. This isn't to knock on the quality of the system, just that people are familiar with the best games the Super Nintendo has to offer, while the best Genesis games are relatively unknown. This gives the illusion that the Super's library curbstomped the Genesis's. Even in this thread people talk about the Genesis excelling in sports games, but where the system really shined was with side-scrolling action games, run-n-guns, and shooters.
The best games on Sega's systems were always the rare hidden gems (that go on to be priced for $800 on Ebay).
My point is that the best Genesis games tend to be very niche. Most of them had a print run that wasn't even five digits. In contrast the best games the Super Nintendo had to offer were huge million sellers. This isn't to knock on the quality of the system, just that people are familiar with the best games the Super Nintendo has to offer, while the best Genesis games are relatively unknown. Even in this thread people talk about the Genesis excelling in sports games, but where the system really shined was with side-scrolling action games, run-n-guns, and shooters.
Oh ok. Well I don't really factor in sports games myself. I'm familiar with most games on both systems so for me it's not really that I missed many hidden gems just that my preference firmly lied on the SNES and it's games which is why I believe it to be the superior system.
I will NEVER forget coming home from my senior trip and picking up Super Metroid. My family was away for vacation. I could've hosted parties, but I chose to spend a week playing Super Metroid.
Man, Nintendo vs. Sega, the time when console wars were fun.
There was less to clean up that way. Unless of course you REALLY liked Samus.
So why arent we sharing our steam libraries with each other?
Can you do that?
Up to 10.
The problem is that the SNES games ran like doo doo. Graphics are nice but not if there is constant slow down or low frames per second. Not to mention a lot of the games have aged poorly. Most of the JRPGs on the system are unplayable with poor translations and constant grinding. Pretty much any arcade like game on the system had a far superior Genesis version. And overall playing games on the system felt slow as hell.
The problem with the Genesis is that most of its best games aren't the "mainstream" ones. I'd list them all but then I'd be further spoiling my GOAT list. It's hard to tell people how great Battlemania II or Batman & Robin are if most people haven't played them.
Not the Gamecube.
The problem is that a lot of the Nintendo 64 games didn't age too hot. While Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, and Sin & Punishment are timeless; Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye have aged poorly.
One of the site's forefathers.
Well in that case my Steam ID (I think) is RobioThePretty.
I only have a handful of games, and one of them is EverQuest. But if the others sound appealing someone feel free to send me a friend request: Bastion, Darkest Dungeon, Heroes of Might and Magic V, and Valkyria Chronicles.
Sports games?
Yeah they had a better sports library but big whoop.
Sure Mortal Kombat on the Genesis had blood but again, big whoop. It looked, sounded, and played better on SNES.
Puhlease. Final Fight craps all over Streets of Rage, all day, everyday.
Shin obi and Golden Axe were good games but those others while ok don't even hold a candle to most any of the excellent games on the SNES, some of which I've already mentioned.
Sonic was always overrated even on the best of days and to compare him to any Mario game is just embarrassing.
Mutant Apocalypse was the better X-Men game.
I never found the slowdown to be that big of a problem, certainly not enough to make me prefer the Genesis version. Compared to the Genesis I was quite satisfied to take the trade off given the capabilities of the SNES. Personally I think the SNES games have aged very well and I have no problem replaying almost of the games that I originally played on the system. Grinding in JRPGs has never been an issue for me. I always found that most any cross platform game the SNES was the superior version.
Meh. I really don't buy into the notion that just because a game is "mainstream" that it somehow isn't as good as a game that isn't. The SNES had a lot of great games that weren't "mainstream" either.
Revenge of Shinobi, Shadow Dancer and Shinobi 3 were all incredible. I can't think of any really great Ninja games on the SNES at the moment...
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy. That counts, right? Legend of the Mystical Ninja?
Gaiden Trilogy? Nope. Native NES games.
Legend of the Mystical Ninja has about as much to do with Ninjas as... well... it really has nothing to do with Ninjas...
There was a cyborg ninja game made by Jaleco I believe that was pretty good. It's name escapes me at the moment.
My point is that the best Genesis games tend to be very niche. Most of them had a print run that wasn't even five digits. In contrast the best games the Super Nintendo had to offer were huge million sellers. This isn't to knock on the quality of the system, just that people are familiar with the best games the Super Nintendo has to offer, while the best Genesis games are relatively unknown. This gives the illusion that the Super's library curbstomped the Genesis's. Even in this thread people talk about the Genesis excelling in sports games, but where the system really shined was with side-scrolling action games, run-n-guns, and shooters.
The best games on Sega's systems were always the rare hidden gems (that go on to be priced for $800 on Ebay).
One of the site's forefathers.
Hagane was from Hudson Soft.
Oh ok. Well I don't really factor in sports games myself. I'm familiar with most games on both systems so for me it's not really that I missed many hidden gems just that my preference firmly lied on the SNES and it's games which is why I believe it to be the superior system.
Sorry Leo but that's not the game that I was thinking of.
...are you sure it was on SNES then?
My bad. It wasn't really a ninja game but a Final Fight clone with a cyborg character in it. It was The Peace Keepers.