They sell the PS3 + Move Starter Pack for 362 euros here. And that only includes one Move wand and no game bundle, just demos. So for the full experience I'd need another wand, the Navigator thing, and a couple of games... No thanks... If it goes down to 300 with at least two wands and one full game bundled I'll consider it seriously if some of the other things I wrote above are met... I'd probably also sell or gift at least one of my current systems though, there are too many games to buy/play already... So I guess it needs to be so good that I won't miss them.

Agnates said:

So, nobody here is getting the Move? If I had a PS3 I'd probably get it, but since it needs a much bigger investment on my part I'll wait until actual motion tracking games I want (not pointer stuff since the pointer is at best similar to Wii's so there's nothing new there) are released, and until the whole system is cheap (and if there's a next-gen system out by then, I may go for that instead too). Though if Skyward Sword sucks I may feel compelled to get it sooner rather than later, but come on, it's not going to. Otherwise Sony needs a game to beat that with before I'm really interested, not just Wii Sports-like stuff and shooters that I mostly play on PC anyway. And I'm not sure they will ever have that because it's still just a peripheral so big budget games will likely be made with all control options in mind, not just Move, outside a few first party titles and moneyhats made specifically to push the device. Though I guess that if it works and it sells a lot then big budget titles are possible, but that remains to be seen...

The cheapest i've seen, which was online, was £45 for the move-mote plus eyetoy + demo disc bundle and another £23 for the additional controller.  And right now the only game already out that interests me is RE5 move edition (LBP2 and inFamous 2 could also be fun potentially but I'm not getting those until they're down to the £15-£18 range so it could be a while).  So at present it's too expensive and it doesn't have the games to justify my purchasing it even though I already have a PS3 but it is entirely possible that I will get it in the future

I didn't like the initial media but the game's starting to look good. Spiderman looks cool.

gamingeek said:

You guys suck.

Castlevania demo today for EU PSN... Plus members. NOOOOO. Stupid Plus. It comes next week for normal smart people.

Archangel3371 said:

gamingeek said:

I just watched the Bioshock footage.

Vader, what's so special?

It's awesome.




                              Seriously though I've been a proponent of 5-year console lifecycles and I must say that this continued flow of great games actually has me pretty content to stay with the 360/PS3 a little longer then usual.

I really don't see any reason for a new Xbox or a Playstation in the next 3 years at least. Normally when a console has been out 5 years, it starts looking dated as hell. These systems just keep looking better & the games are at a very polished level now with developers knowing how to tap into them. Why ruin the fun by forcing new consoles and forcing people to shell out another $300+ for them? The only company that needs an upgrade is Nintendo, for obvious reasons.

I thought the Gamecube & especially Xbox could have lasted another couple years LAST gen, too. Though I guess you could say Cube did last that long, and longer, in a way. IMO though, these systems didn't get squeezed for power the way PS2 did, and if they had been, we would have continued to see them improve for a few extra years. I had more than enough of PS2 though, by the time Xbox 360 came out. And really, Sony should have been the 1st one out with new hardware.

Really though, what's the point in a new Xbox or Playstation? How much better are the graphics, sound, and everything else really going to be? Enough to justify an upgrade?

Trackmania Wii was reviewed by CVG with a 79% but it's very slim on information and reads like he just passed most of it like shovelware, unaware of the series' status and the potential for online communities to form around it, in order to explain if what the series does best is intact in this release. I thought the game was pushed back but I guess not... And those pesky reviewers leaked it as usual so it's all over torrent sites already...

Holy shit gamespot is so SLOW at getting to the news.  When I visit their site to see if they have anything new ist's always stuff from yesterday.    AND they never break anything.  Maybe they shoudl take their news guys off the podcast and have them report.

I know I've bitched about this before, but it's nuts to me. NUTS!

Numbers that mean nothing... They should tell us what exactly was sold online, if it was 11 million downloads with an average price of $5 thanks to all the "mini" type stuff sold for a few cents to a dollar it hardly means anything against retail titles with an average price of $40 per title... Other than reinforce that digital releases are suitable for smaller lower budget and/or indie games for now... Or reinforce that it's more suitable on PC than on consoles...