Would you like to elaborate?

aspro said:

You finish it?

I remember that my wife got a little teary eyed at the end of that one.  Not me of course, I'm too manly to cry tears.

I am on the 7th day of week 2. Noise is now actively trying to get me, its so awesome.

Archangel3371 said:

I actually like the idea of putting out small games based off of upcoming big games because I still get to preview what the big game will be like but unlike a demo these small games are still their own and seperate game. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero was one that was done right and was cheap enough. I'm really looking forward to DR2 and DR2: Case West.

How would it be worse for you if there was an actual demo of the game and Case Zero wasn't cut out of the full game and sold separately? You'd both get to sample the game for free to see if you want to buy it and not pay extra for content that was clearly developed for that game. Or have Case Zero itself for free and included on the disc, passed as a demo as is? It's a prologue after all, and it was pretty sweet when the demo for Panzer Dragoon Saga was the full first disc out of four, complete with compatible saves between demo and game. I mean, day 1 DLC was suspicious enough, but DLC that's out before/outside the full game now? Come on...

Archangel3371 said:

I actually like the idea of putting out small games based off of upcoming big games because I still get to preview what the big game will be like but unlike a demo these small games are still their own and seperate game. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero was one that was done right and was cheap enough. I'm really looking forward to DR2 and DR2: Case West.

Yeah it's a good idea to get the game a lot of buzz -- I think a lot of that had to do with the low price.

It will be interesting to see how it works for sales, whether or not a lot of people say "well I was going to get it, but that was enough for me".  I guess that's no different from any demo really.  I do think the paying for demo's is a bad precendent though.

Agnates said:

Archangel3371 said:

I actually like the idea of putting out small games based off of upcoming big games because I still get to preview what the big game will be like but unlike a demo these small games are still their own and seperate game. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero was one that was done right and was cheap enough. I'm really looking forward to DR2 and DR2: Case West.

How would it be worse for you if there was an actual demo of the game and Case Zero wasn't cut out of the full game and sold separately? You'd both get to sample the game for free to see if you want to buy it and not pay extra for content that was clearly developed for that game. Or have Case Zero itself for free and included on the disc, passed as a demo as is? It's a prologue after all, and it was pretty sweet when the demo for Panzer Dragoon Saga was the full first disc out of four, complete with compatible saves between demo and game. I mean, day 1 DLC was suspicious enough, but DLC that's out before/outside the full game now? Come on...

aspro said:

Archangel3371 said:

I actually like the idea of putting out small games based off of upcoming big games because I still get to preview what the big game will be like but unlike a demo these small games are still their own and seperate game. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero was one that was done right and was cheap enough. I'm really looking forward to DR2 and DR2: Case West.

Yeah it's a good idea to get the game a lot of buzz -- I think a lot of that had to do with the low price.

It will be interesting to see how it works for sales, whether or not a lot of people say "well I was going to get it, but that was enough for me".  I guess that's no different from any demo really.  I do think the paying for demo's is a bad precendent though.

Archangel3371 said:

This isn't paying for a demo though because a demo is part of a game you're going to end up replaying so you'd end up paying whatever you pay for the demo plus the price of the full retail game for the same content. DR2: Case Zero is it's own game so when I get the retail DR2 it's not going to be something I'll end playing again.

But that should be in the game.  Now to experience a section of the game that was more than likely going to be included in the final product, they charge you extra for it. Its in line with all the DLC stuff that has been going on this gen so its nothing shocking. Also I rather have DLC before the game hits cause I love getting to play stuff I like sooner than later. Still this whole DLC that is obviously cut from the game needs to stop.

Dvader said:

aspro said:

Just staring Deadly Premonition. So far so good.

You must have a broken copy. Isn't the game supposed to be so bad that its good.

Nah, that was just haters hating.  It's basically RE 3.7 meets the TV series Twin Peaks.  It's holding up so far.  Engaging lead protagonist.  Not very original, but borrowing from the best.

I bring you the VGpress' first hands on with the Move.

Meh?

Its not the Move's fault, it was a display at Best Buy and it only had two sports from the Sports Champions game as the demo. Only frisbee and table tennis. There were two wands nothing else, one for each player. The Move feels nice, it's shaped so its comfortable in your hand. The trigger in the back is very soft, its very easy to push it down. I love the glowy ball, its rubbery you cant help but squish it.  The Move button is kind of sunk in so its not as easy to press as the A button which is sticking out on the Wiimote. The four PS face buttons are poorly placed, we are used to the cross setup and now its shaped like a square, plus they are tiny and annoying to press. Start and select are on the side of the wand. The display had this thing attached to the bottom keeping it tethered to the display, that added weight to the movemote so I couldn't tell how light it was.  I really miss having a d-pad. I tried to access the PS menu but I couldn't exit the game cause I had no way of moving through the menu with no d-pad. So to use the menu (the black one) you have to switch to a normal controller, dumb.

The two games were kind of sucky. Frisbee is ok, its done like golf, you have certain amount of shots to throw the disc into a goal. At the start you need to calibrate, annoying but you get fast at it quick. The motion controls work great. It was 1:1, as you hold the disc I rotated my hand around and my avatar did exactly what I did. You pull back and let the button go, just as you'd expect from a wii sports like game. And thats basically what it felt like, another wii sports game, so it quickly became boring for me.

Table tennis wasn't as fun. It felt a bit robotic, as if what I was doing didn't really matter. Personally I dont care for ping pong so this game did nothing for me. Graphically it looks nice.

And those were the demos, really Best Buy, you expect that to wow people. In fact that display probably hurts the Move more than helps it. It does seem like its selling though, the Move section is almost cleared out.

Leo was right, Enslaved demo was pretty damn cool. More on it later.