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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:57:30

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Right. No one thinks TP is one of the best games ever, no one. LOL

It doesn't matter who moved genres forward, TP is a better game than Galaxy. Zelda offers much more than Mario ever can.

Mario offers more fun.

I hate to do this, but SMG has a higher Metacritic score, it was voted by Neogaf as the 2nd best game of all time, right after Zelda: OoT and it is one of the few games that no one actually hates.

The last part can't be said  about Twilight Princess. I know how you like to use "you are the minority and thousands of other people disagree" argument. Well guess what, you are the minority, and well, you know the rest.


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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:05:04

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Mario offers more fun.

I hate to do this, but SMG has a higher Metacritic score, it was voted by Neogaf as the 2nd best game of all time, right after Zelda: OoT and it is one of the few games that no one actually hates.

The last part can't be said  about Twilight Princess. I know how you like to use "you are the minority and thousands of other people disagree" argument. Well guess what, you are the minority, and well, you know the rest.


I am not arguing what more people like I am arguing that you state no one thinks TP is one of the all time greats. I know all about public opinion.

And which game did Mario Galaxy not beat on that neogaf poll... ZELDA.  The very best of Mario will never beat the very best of Zelda.

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Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?
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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:10:28

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Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?

LOL

Hey lets list games we think is better than Galaxy.

Metroid Prime is better than Galaxy

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:19:59

Dvader said:

LOL

Hey lets list games we think is better than Galaxy.

Metroid Prime is better than Galaxy

Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario 64

Super Mario World

Super Mario Bros

Pilotwings 64

Doom

Daytona USA

. . .

Nah, this list would be too long write.


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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:21:05

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Mario offers more fun.

I hate to do this, but SMG has a higher Metacritic score, it was voted by Neogaf as the 2nd best game of all time, right after Zelda: OoT and it is one of the few games that no one actually hates.

The last part can't be said  about Twilight Princess. I know how you like to use "you are the minority and thousands of other people disagree" argument. Well guess what, you are the minority, and well, you know the rest.


I am not arguing what more people like I am arguing that you state no one thinks TP is one of the all time greats. I know all about public opinion.

And which game did Mario Galaxy not beat on that neogaf poll... ZELDA.  The very best of Mario will never beat the very best of Zelda.

 Sorry TP is not considered as all time greats. Oot is, Lttp is, but not TP and not even MM, however that one is getting more and more lovers.  

Dvader said:

SteelAttack said:
Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?

LOL

Hey lets list games we think is better than Galaxy.

Metroid Prime is better than Galaxy

 Galaxy 2

hopefully.

SteelAttack said:
Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?

Again, why so serious?

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:21:19

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Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario 64

Super Mario World

Super Mario Bros

Pilotwings

Doom

Daytona USA

. . .

Nah, this list would be too long write.

This is no fun anymore. Nyaa

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:23:00

Dvader said:

Ravenprose said:

Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario 64

Super Mario World

Super Mario Bros

Pilotwings

Doom

Daytona USA

. . .

Nah, this list would be too long write.

This is no fun anymore. Nyaa

 Proof that opinion can be objectively wrong LOL


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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:26:27

Iga_Bobovic said:

SteelAttack said:
Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?

Again, why so serious?

Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy? Nyaa

Better?

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:29:02

SteelAttack said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

SteelAttack said:
Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy?

Again, why so serious?

Why is it so wrong to prefer any other game over Galaxy? Nyaa

Better?

A little, now go buy Red Steel 2 penis.

P.S. what happened to Hamster's post? 

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:29:48

Iga_Bobovic said:

Again, why so serious?

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Mario offers more fun.

I hate to do this, but SMG has a higher Metacritic score, it was voted by Neogaf as the 2nd best game of all time, right after Zelda: OoT and it is one of the few games that no one actually hates.

The last part can't be said  about Twilight Princess. I know how you like to use "you are the minority and thousands of other people disagree" argument. Well guess what, you are the minority, and well, you know the rest.


I am not arguing what more people like I am arguing that you state no one thinks TP is one of the all time greats. I know all about public opinion.

And which game did Mario Galaxy not beat on that neogaf poll... ZELDA.  The very best of Mario will never beat the very best of Zelda.

Sorry TP is not considered as all time greats. Oot is, Lttp is, but not TP and not even MM, however that one is getting more and more lovers.  


It isnt loved by a big majority like those games but TP will have just as many fans as MM. There is no wrong when you choose favorite Zelda's as long as you don't pick the DS games or Zelda 2 or Minish Cap.

Don't forget Zelda TP won tons of GOTY awards, it won tons of reader awards. Just cause it doesn't have the universal love of some of the other Zelda titles and other all time greats does not mean we are talking about a game that doesn't belong in a discussion of the very best games. The thing is most people go with originality and impact first when it comes to choosing all time greats which is fine, I agree with that to an extent.TP was neither of those two.

So Twilight Princess is viewed like MGS4, hated by some, very loved by others. Fine by me, that is great company to have.

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:33:34
Iga, when someone states that they think Gears of War or Mass Effect (1 or 2 for either) or Uncharted 2 is the best game of this gen do you think those people are crazy. Cause I bet a ton of people feel that way as well. Those games don't have that same level of consensus that Galaxy has but those games are GOTY winners, are always talked about in the very best of this gen and will be mentioned in top games of all times list.

Are you ok with that or does that drive you nuts.
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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:35:18

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Again, why so serious?

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Mario offers more fun.

I hate to do this, but SMG has a higher Metacritic score, it was voted by Neogaf as the 2nd best game of all time, right after Zelda: OoT and it is one of the few games that no one actually hates.

The last part can't be said  about Twilight Princess. I know how you like to use "you are the minority and thousands of other people disagree" argument. Well guess what, you are the minority, and well, you know the rest.


I am not arguing what more people like I am arguing that you state no one thinks TP is one of the all time greats. I know all about public opinion.

And which game did Mario Galaxy not beat on that neogaf poll... ZELDA.  The very best of Mario will never beat the very best of Zelda.

Sorry TP is not considered as all time greats. Oot is, Lttp is, but not TP and not even MM, however that one is getting more and more lovers.  


Not by a big majority like those games but TP will have just as many fans as MM. There is no wrong when you choose favorite Zelda's as long as you don't pick the DS games or Zelda 2 or Minish Cap.

Don't forget Zelda TP won tons of GOTY awards, it won tons of reader awards. Just cause it doesn't have the universal love of some of the other Zelda titles and other all time greats does not mean we are talking about a game that doesn't belong in a discussion of the very best games. The thing is most people go with originality and impact first when it comes to choosing all time greats which is fine, I agree with that to an extent.TP was neither of those two.

So Twilight Princess is viewed like MGS4, hated by some, very loved by others. Fine by me, that is great company to have.

 You are taking this discussion way too serious. Just remember one thing, never ever use the Metacritic and you are the minority argument, it is a weak argument and I feel dirty for using it!

P.S. I loved Zelda TP and it is one of my favourite games, but it is not considered to be one of the all time greats. But I think my list of all time greats is a lot smaller than yours. 

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:39:49

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Iga, when someone states that they think Gears of War or Mass Effect (1 or 2 for either) or Uncharted 2 is the best game of this gen do you think those people are crazy. Cause I bet a ton of people feel that way as well. Those games don't have that same level of consensus that Galaxy has but those games are GOTY winners, are always talked about in the very best of this gen and will be mentioned in top games of all times list.

Are you ok with that or does that drive you nuts.

When I talk about all time greats with consensus thing, I do not give my own opinion, because in my opinion Majora's Mask is better than Ocarina, even though the former is not considered an all time great. 

And no it does not drive me crazy if you humans have different opinions. I just accept that you guys are wrong and move on.  

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:40:07

Dvader said:

Are you ok with that or does that drive you nuts.

No, Galaxy is the best thing that has ever happened to gaming and anyone who thinks otherwise should die now a miserable death.

Oh, I forgot:

Nyaa

Sorry if I come across as a bit harsh, it's just that I've seen plenty of the above sentiment elsewhere on gaming boards. I know here is different, but still, I had to get it out of my chest.

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:41:16

Iga_Bobovic said:

  But I think my list of all time greats is a lot smaller than yours.

Probably is, just like your penis. Nyaa

The metacritic and minority thing works when somebody is being annoying and trying to discredit everyone that likes what is generally considered to be an excellent game. Like right now Carnage is trashing Metroid Prime at GS, saying how it CANNOT be considered a great game cause of the points Carnage brought up.

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:43:13

Iga_Bobovic said:

When I talk about all time greats with consensus thing, I do not give my own opinion, because in my opinion Majora's Mask is better than Ocarina, even though the former is not considered an all time great.

And no it does not drive me crazy if you humans have different opinions. I just accept that you guys are wrong and move on.  

Very well said. Happy I agree wiith that. Well except that you don't think MM is considered an all time great, I have seen it on many all time great lists on various sites and magazines, enough so to know that many feel it is a special game. No where near the same love as OoT but enough to be on many top 100 lists and stuff like that.

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:44:38

SteelAttack said:

No, Galaxy is the best thing that has ever happened to gaming and anyone who thinks otherwise should die now a miserable death.

Oh, I forgot:

Nyaa

Sorry if I come across as a bit harsh, it's just that I've seen plenty of the above sentiment elsewhere on gaming boards. I know here is different, but still, I had to get it out of my chest.

Aren't you glad that you did it here and not a place where real crazies will crawl out and attack you.

That said never ever mention that in my Galaxy 2 thread. Nyaa

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:45:43

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

  But I think my list of all time greats is a lot smaller than yours.

Probably is, just like your penis. Nyaa

The metacritic and minority thing works when somebody is being annoying and trying to discredit everyone that likes what is generally considered to be an excellent game. Like right now Carnage is trashing Metroid Prime at GS, saying how it CANNOT be considered a great game cause of the points Carnage brought up.

 Then you argue those points and tell him why it can be considered a great game. But why the hell are you arguing with him? Don't argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience! Unless they are factually wrong, then you call Yoda, or me, if you want smartass comments that make people angry.

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Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:47:50

Iga_Bobovic said:

Then you argue those points and tell him why it can be considered a great game. But why the hell are you arguing with him? Don't argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience! Unless they are factually wrong, then you call Yoda, or me, if you want smartass comments that make people angry.

I am not arguing with him, I said a simple line and moved on. I know it is a lost cause to argue with him.

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