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You've been patching your games: What happens when your hard drive is kaput?
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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:17:04
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How many games have you had to patch? How large were these patches and what happens in 10 years time when your drive is gone and you can't re-download the patches?

Just wondering.

I had a bunch of Lucasarts games that wouldn't work with modern pcs without a fan made program and even then, with difficulty. Are some of your games going to be obselete in the future? And collectors like Aspro worried at all about this?

Also if you have cartridge games with battery back up, do you charge them at all? Because I hear that they have a 10 year charge and once they are gone, they are gone?

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

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sudo dd bs=1024k if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:06:00
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gamingeek said:

Also if you have cartridge games with battery back up, do you charge them at all? Because I hear that they have a 10 year charge and once they are gone, they are gone?

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

most of my original gameboy game cartridges no longer save.  i read that you can open the cartridge with the special screwdriver and replace the battery quite easily but i have never done it myself.

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Well I think XBL all the patches are available right from their servers so they'll most likely always be available. I imagine PSN works the same way. Probably Nintendo's would as well but I don't think has any support for game patches as of right now.

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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:04:33
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gamingeek said:

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

Yesterday. I spent a few hours playing various Atari 2600 games. Happy

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Ravenprose said:

gamingeek said:

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

Yesterday. I spent a few hours playing various Atari 2600 games. Happy

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Ravenprose said:

gamingeek said:

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

Yesterday. I spent a few hours playing various Atari 2600 games. Happy

It doesn't count when your cartridges predate battery saves

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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:20:59
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Yodariquo said:
Ravenprose said:

gamingeek said:

When did you last play your cartridge based collection?

Yesterday. I spent a few hours playing various Atari 2600 games. Happy

It doesn't count when your cartridges predate battery saves

Atari games are so great, they don't need silly batteries to function properly. Happy

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Cartridge battery back-up.  There are two kinds of "batteries". Let me find a link that explains it well...

The kind of memory used in older cartridges is volatile, and has to draw a little power in order to be maintained. Flash memory, at use in SD cards and memory sticks isn't volatile. Once it's written to, it stays written to until it's re-written.
The only battery-powered memory cards are for the Neo Geo and the Dreamcast VMUs (b/c of the screen). The 4-page DC memory unit from Sega is flash memory (no screen),

Cart---Memory type

pre-NES and SMS---nothing

NES---battery

SMS---battery

Genesis---battery

SNES---battery

Neo Geo---nothing (saved on card)

GB, GBC---battery

GBA---flash memory

DS---flash memory

N-Gage---flash or saved to phone, I'm not sure, but it's not volatile.

Now back to me.

I've got several hundred carts, and use them regularly, most recently to play Earthbound on the SNES.  I've not encountered any dead batterys.  Though they are easy to replace.

These dudes sell what you need to replace batteries in those carts: http://www.nintendorepairshop.com/shopexd.asp?id=496 but essentially it's just a special kind of screwdriver/ allen key and a battery (you can get those batteries from Target or Wal-Mart for a couple of bucks). You don't need to use that special driver, that you can use the inside of a ball-point pen in some manner. Those bits are also available on E-Bay for $4.


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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:03:50
What about N64?

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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:51:49

gamingeek said:
What about N64?

Early games used batteries, after a while they switched to using flash. I don't think there is a directory of which is which, you'd just have to open them up to find out.

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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:56:56

aspro said:

gamingeek said:
What about N64?

Early games used batteries, after a while they switched to using flash. I don't think there is a directory of which is which, you'd just have to open them up to find out.

Damnit. My N64 has been broken for a couple of years, no power. So I cant charge anything.

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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:57:46
Do note that on solid state memory, you have a lifespan of use as opposed to time.  Writing and rewriting reduces the life of the storage.

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