bugsonglass said:

robio said:

I can't compare it against SFIV since I never played it but I am very happy with the game. I do prefer it to Marvel v. Capcom 2. It's not quite as meaninglessly chaotic if that makes sense. Plus I think the gameplay is a little more challenging. There may only be 3 attack buttons but there are more special counters, team ups, super moves etc.

Plus there is something to be said for all of the new characters who've never been in a fighting game before.  They were all handled very well. And got to love being able to play as the two giant mechs.

3 attack buttons which don't differentiate punch or kick just light, medium and strong right?

and another button to switch character?  how do you call your second character to do a tag combo but not to have them swap with you?

i agree with you, the weird tatsunoko characters are a big plus for me and they look very exciting.  i'm surprised many reviews think that it's a negative to get many new characters.

Well, the 3 buttons do sound a bit shallow, but it's not though. Like Ryu for example, just from three buttons alone, he almost has every major move from Street Fighter IV and Third Strike. It's pretty cool how concise and deep it really could be. It also makes it easier to pull off some insane combos if you do it right. You can also combo them in the air, which is cool and then finish off with a special move. I love Ryu's Shoryuken finish. Awesome!

For tag combos without switching, you just press the partner button. You hold back to switch.

phantom_leo said:

Pressing JUST the swap button calls them in for an Attack, then they jump back out.

Pressing the swap button + away, calls them out (or tags them in, if you prefer).

Guarding and immediately pressing towards + swap does a Counter Attack, tagging your other character in, as well.

If you initiate a Super, and do the motion for your other character's Super, they jump in mid-attack, do THEIR Super and swap with you too.

QC + Swap while you are in the middle of an Air-Combo calls them in, doing an attack also. I think they stay out in that case too, but I haven't been able to land that one yet!

looks like i'm going to have to read the manual for this game

bugsonglass said:

3 attack buttons which don't differentiate punch or kick just light, medium and strong right?

and another button to switch character?  how do you call your second character to do a tag combo but not to have them swap with you?

i agree with you, the weird tatsunoko characters are a big plus for me and they look very exciting.  i'm surprised many reviews think that it's a negative to get many new characters.

Yes that's correct, just 3 attack buttons.  To bring you in your partner you just push the Partner button (B in the default controls that I use) and they'll come in for a quick assist with a minor attack and then jump back out.  You can also bring them in to combo up for a super attack though that's a little tougher to explain.

And I think any reviewer complaining about unfamiliar characters is just asinine.  Are we at a point in time where we have all the video game characters we'll ever need and should never bring in a new one?  Do they only play sequels with characters they've already played with a hundred times?  And do they bring the same criticism against every Final Fantasy that has a new cast of characters?  Retarded.

bugsonglass said:

phantom_leo said:

I don't know if this will make any sense, but:

(Tatsunoko and the Vs. Series is to DMC and Bayonetta) as (SFIV is to God of War and Darksiders).

Nope, that was lost on me i have to admit

maybe because out of the six games mentioned i have just played the 3

unless you just meant on a personal level, games you wouldn't play vs games you would.

On one side you have games that are frantic and combo-ridden, on the other you have games that are more evenly paced where you have to think more about using the correct moves.

phantom_leo said:

bugsonglass said:

phantom_leo said:

I don't know if this will make any sense, but:

(Tatsunoko and the Vs. Series is to DMC and Bayonetta) as (SFIV is to God of War and Darksiders).

Nope, that was lost on me i have to admit

maybe because out of the six games mentioned i have just played the 3

unless you just meant on a personal level, games you wouldn't play vs games you would.

On one side you have games that are frantic and combo-ridden, on the other you have games that are more evenly paced where you have to think more about using the correct moves.

^^ Makes sense.

Does that mean Third Strike and Super Street Fighter IV is like Zelda Ocarina of Time/Twilight Princess since it's the deeper, more imaginative, and the superior action/adventure game?

robio said:

Man I really need to get my hands on a system that'll play SFIV...

You don't have a 360 or PS3 yet?

You should get one. You're missing out. Super Street Fighter IV is April 27th, man!

You'll definitely miss out on perhaps the greatest fighting game known to mankind...well, at least for this current gen!

robio said:

ASK_Story said:

robio said:

Man I really need to get my hands on a system that'll play SFIV...

You don't have a 360 or PS3 yet?

You should get one. You're missing out. Super Street Fighter IV is April 27th, man!

You'll definitely miss out on perhaps the greatest fighting game known to mankind...well, at least for this current gen!

No I still can't rationalize the purchase of a second console yet.  Everytime I think about doing it, I come back to the thought that there are still Wii games I wanted to play and haven't gotten around to.  

It doesn't help that I'd much rather have a PS3 over a 360 at this point.  I could probably justify buying a PS3 if they were as cheap as 360's, but we're still a year away from at best.

PS3 and 360 are the same price.

This section lists some techniques that are part of the game engine that you can use to become a better player at Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. Professional players utilize these techniques quite often. These techniques can give you extra tools to escape nasty situations.

• Partner Swap •
Pressing the partner button once before the match begins (when the characters introducing themselves) switches your primary and secondary character choices. This is good to use when you have a poor matchup.

• Super Jump •
Like a regular jump but much higher, Super Jumps can save you from many trap scenarios. Press down and then quickly press up to jump at a much higher distance. If it isn't working, do the motion faster. Don't forget that nearly all the characters can jump again after a super jump.

You can also use the diagonal up-back or up-forward positions to Super Jump in those directions instead of directly up.

(Can also be done in the air)
• Advancing Guard •
Advancing guard is a technique which pushes the opponent back and almost totally nullifies chip damage when blocking. It also helps you recover faster from block stun. Be careful when using it though, if your opponent suddenly pauses in their blocked combo string and you press the buttons without blocking any attacks, you'll more than likely throw out an attack that leaves you open. Make sure your timing is good. This is also good to use against Hyper moves that you are blocking.

(Can also be done in the air)
• Baroque •
This move Cancels the current animation of whatever normal or special move you are performing. It also lets you extend combos rather easily.

Baroque can only be activated if you have "red life" in your health bar, because it consumes all of it. The more red life that Baroque consumes, the more damage the subsequent extended combo will inflict.

Keep in mind that red life is the life that you would regain if you had tagged out, so don't throw it away too recklessly. Baroque can also be used to Cancel the animation of "unsafe" moves that have a lot of recovery time.

(Can also be done in the air)
• Mega Crash •
Pressing all four buttons executes a Mega Crash. This move requires 2 Hyper bars to perform and also takes away about 10% of your health. Mega Crash is very similar to Burst in the Guilty Gear and Blazblue games in that it will blow away the opponent to the opposite side of the screen, freeing you from their combo string.

It's a great "get off me" move if someone is starting up a big combo. It can also be activated at any time. Mega Crashing at the same time your opponent Mega Crashses will keep you from being knocked away, but they will recover before you do. Don't abuse Mega Crash; know when to use it.

(In the air)
• Variable Air Raid •
While in the middle of an Aerial Combo, do this motion; you should flash blue, your partner will switch in and continue the air combo. It's a 100% safe way of switching in partners, but it costs 1 Hyper bar to execute.

• Variable Counter •
Press towards and the Partner button the moment you block an attack (within the frames of block stun) and you will switch with your partner and the partner will attempt a launching attack.

This comes out VERY FAST and is almost impossible to block in time unless the countered move was a Light attack or a long distance move. Keep in mind this also takes one Hyper bar to use. If your opponent likes to use dial combos and keeps repeating the same motions over and over again, this move has a good chance to punish them and switch out at the same time. If the counterattack misses, you are wide open for an attack after wards though.

Hyper Motion
• Variable Combination •
This lets you and your partner perform their Hyper moves simultaneously. When doing a Level 1 Hyper with any character, simply press the partner button as part of the button press for the Hyper. This takes 3 Hyper bars to use. Each character uses a specific Hyper move when called in to do a Variable Combination; for example, Ryu only does Shinku Hadouken and Polymar only does Polymar Drill. You cannot use this technique for Level 3 Hypers.

• Delayed Hyper Combo (DHC) •
To execute this simply input the move for the Hyper of your partner while your current character is performing a Hyper move.

This technique lets you Cancel the current animation of whatever Hyper combo you are performing with another Hyper from your partner. This should be very familiar with those who have played Marvel vs. Capcom 2. It doesn't cost anything extra to perform this technique other than the Hyper bar(s) you use when you activate your partner's Hyper move. You can also Cancel into Level 3 Hypers to rack up some massive damage.

The character who performed the last Hyper stays on screen, so this is a way to switch characters by using 2 levels of Hyper meter.

• Snapback •
A Snapback is when a character's move forces the opponent's character to switch out. Only certain characters have a snapback ability, and those are Gold Lightan, PTX-40A and Alex. Snapbacks are useful when your opponent has a character with a lot of red life in the wings, because the forced switch causes the backup character to lose all of their red life.

*From Eventhubs.Com