aspro said:

Foolz said:

aspro said:

So Foolz, you beat that platformer boss in Retrocity?

The boss with the ball and chain? Second hardest part of the game (sweat bomber level was worse). There's a trick to it that makes it relatively easy once you figure it out.

Is that close to the end? If so (and maybe even if not) I'll try it again.  Does the sweat bomber come before the ball and chain boss? (I don't remember).

Ball and chain is second last boss battle, and sweat bomber is quite a few stages before it. Sweat bomber can be skipped if you're confused to the point of not actually being up to it yet.

aspro said:

I am now halfway through Max Payne 3.  Kind of an odd experience for me so far.  I am both very impressed with and bored by the game.  My eyes tell me this is great fun we are haing here, but my hands and brain don't agree.  It's like going to a great museum I guess, I know what I am looking at is impressive and interesting, but do I really have to walk through 6 floors of this stuff before I can go home?

Yes, trying to leave the museum early results in you becoming one of the skeletal exhibits.

travo said:

New Bioshock DLC details!  I actually forgot that I purchased the season pass!

Same here! Its like getting free stuff now.

SupremeAC said:

I never said, or at least never meant to say, that the ground textures weren't up to scratch, but rather that after 9 years, we should have moved on more then just 'better textures', no matter how good the effects are.

I wasn't referring to you, more the internet at large.

There is plenty more than just better textures, there are better shaders, lighting, depth of field and effects as well as more detail on characters and enemies. Don't play down textures though, more texture detail means more detail in the environment that isn't a little thing. IMO they should have aped NFS Most Wanted, a game where it never rains but the roads still look wet. It's done for reflections and detail.

aspro said:

I am now halfway through Max Payne 3.  Kind of an odd experience for me so far.  I am both very impressed with and bored by the game.  My eyes tell me this is great fun we are haing here, but my hands and brain don't agree.  It's like going to a great museum I guess, I know what I am looking at is impressive and interesting, but do I really have to walk through 6 floors of this stuff before I can go home?

It got good reviews but it seems the  vgpress consensus is that it's fairly average.

FOOLZ since when did playing Pikmin 3 turn into some pissing match with PC RTS games?

Your pictures are way off anyway, when in camera mode in Pikmin you are half the height of a blade of grass.

This picture for instance you would have to jam the camera right close to the wheel nut of this tank to get something similar.

Here's some rts ground textures on other systems like PS3/360 and PC

Company of heroes 2 PC.

This really looks that bad now?

Bonus round, The Last of Us:

Look at the textures here, in particular the ground when viewed at an angle and the corner of a bed? This is what happens when you view a ground texture at a distance and angle it's not meant to be seen at.

Miyamoto interview:

M: “Even before 2007, right after the release of Pikmin 2, the development team was already working on a test production of the next Pikmin. In fact, each time new hardware such as Nintendo DS, Wii and Nintendo 3DS came out, they did a test production. All the ideas that came up then, were applied to Pikmin 3.

“This process is not only applied to the Pikmin series, but to the others franchises as well. Roughly, a small team of about five staff do various experiments at the stage of the test production, and then we increase the number of staff dramatically when the title starts to be developed as an actual product.”

N: If I’m not mistaken, Pikmin was the last time you worked on a truly new adventure type game. Don’t you miss this?

M: “I happen to be working on a completely new game even now. The project is actually getting busier lately.”

Seems they have a small prototyping team constantly working on titles before proper production begins.

Foolz said:

You are the one making it a pissing contest lol.

Really? I make one remark saying it's not that bad compared to RTS and it isn't.

You then appear and post swathes of PC RTS screens is turning it into a pissing match LOL

Foolz said:

I even said that scale was inaccurate for Company of Heroes II.

Your scale is inaccurate for all your pictures. Not one of those games goes first person so close to the ground to take pictures.

And Wii U isn't a PC, so compare it to 360 and PS3 RTS games.

Foolz said:

The pictures you posted often don't look much worse than some areas of Pikmin 3 (even zoomed out to the same level as they are.

No for a start and even if I did agree with what you said - that even proves my point. That they are comparable. And BTW all the Pikmin 3 screens you have seen are captured and posted at standard def gamepad resolution. The game on an HDTV looks better. But Wii U doesn't let you capture 720p screens.  

Foolz said:

Posting comparison screens is a pissing contest? Yeah, when you start to call it one, and then post pics in reply to try and prove me wrong or something.

So you start a pissing contest "posting pics in reply to try and prove me wrong" then complain when I disagree with you? Nice.

Foolz said:

Anyway, who cares how it looks zoomed in?

Umm, lots of people seeing how it frequently zooms in for animatics and ingame cutscenes and how the game gives you a motion controlled first person camera to take in game pics and post them to Miiverse.

Foolz said:

Look at the ground in the Pikmin III picture I posted. It's zoomed out, and the geometry and textures look like shit. Much, much worse than most Company of Heroes II, Shogun II, Starcraft 2 pics I've seen, and not in any way of comparable quality and the shitness is amplified becuase of how much better the Pikmin and some plants look. That's the issue: it looks shit zoomed out! (Before your reply with the details in those textures are actually more detailed than in company of heroes etc., yes they are, but that's part of the issue: it looks like terrible, lo-res squashed, scanned photographs instead of bland generic ground that doesn't draw any attention to itself.)

Really?

Even if I were to agree with that, which I don't, you know that Pikmin 3 screen you posted is a bloated out of resolution non-representative screen of how the game looks right? And that the ground textures there can look twice as detailed when effects are applied, which aren't in your bloated out of resolution non-representative screen.

Please come to your senses and show me all these amazing 360/PS3 RTS games that look like this in a first person view.

"So you start a pissing contest "posting pics in reply to try and prove me wrong" then complain when I disagree with you? Nice."

Did you read what I posted? We agree that they are comparable. How was I trying to prove you wrong exactly? Hmm? You turned it into a pissing contest by saying I was then posting pictures to prove me wrong despite the fact that I was agreeing with you, just because I dared to point out how shit Pikmin 3 looks at times.

"Umm, lots of people seeing how it frequently zooms in for animatics and ingame cutscenes and how the game gives you a motion controlled first person camera to take in game pics and post them to Miiverse."

That makes the shitness in the ground quality all the worse then, and less excusable.

"Please come to your senses and show me all these amazing 360/PS3 RTS games that look like this in a first person view."

Why can I only post shitty 360/PS3 RTSs? Is the Wii U last gen?

"Even if I were to agree with that, which I don't, you know that Pikmin 3 screen you posted is a bloated out of resolution non-representative screen of how the game looks right? And that the ground textures there can look twice as detailed when effects are applied, which aren't in your bloated out of resolution non-representative screen."

So whenever a screenshot looks crap, it's not representitive? There's worse than what I posted in videos I've seen. Is this video non-representive? Look at that tree. It looks like shit. It's not like I even had to go looking for it. I clicked the second video on YouTube and fast forwarded randomly, and look at what's sticking out? Glaringly obvious shit.

It looks great I still need to play Infinite I might wait for a GoTY edition if they make it so I can play Burial at Sea.

This came at a --PERFECT-- time! Mom seems to be getting along very well. Able to drive. Able to be more independent. When things have finally settled with her for the most part, I get my reward for being 'Son of the Year' in the form of Infinite news! It will come at a time when I --WILL-- be able to sit and enjoy it! Unlike The Last of Us, so far!

I am already getting twitchy and anxious and my mind is reeling at what kind of connections and tie-ins these DLC's will reveal!

It's not there yet.