edgecrusher said:

Where are we getting this info that the new Xbox is going to be so superior to the PS4 even, nevermind the Wii U? Granted the GPU they're using is really powerful but I can't see it being that far ahead of PS4 to even matter.

Okay, seriously I cannot find all the stuff I have read in the past but here are a few things.

Developer on Neogaf talks Wii U's power compared to Durango/PS4

Post 1: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38274551&postcount=7296


"I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others (durango, PS4) with the actual data"



Post 2: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38274838&postcount=7318


"Ps4 is not final yet and can change a lot but Xbox 3 it's more or less clear right now and the gap is big in almost every part "



Post 3: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38270297&postcount=7114


When someone said nobody will notice a major difference in graphics between Wii U and other consoles, the person disagreed.


"mmm no, it will be noticeable (technically speaking)."



Post 4: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38275331&postcount=7348


When asked if gap between Wii U and Durango will be a gap like "PS2 and Xbox 1" or "Dreamcast and Xbox 1"...he said...


"Difficult to measure ... But i think Is more Like the Second one (Sorry about the capital letters I'm On ny iPhone XD)"

Latest reliable Orbis and Durango specs

Disclaimer: Everything isn't final, but the general range of these system are more or less set in stone.


Durango:

AMD CPU, 6-8 cores

Ram 3-4 GB

AMD GPU

Total processing power 1-1.2 teraflops


Note: I've heard of 8GB ram from reliable people on this form, but a certain, well respected, insider on B3D is certain that 3-4 and 1 teraflops is near final. His information is the most up to date that I've got.


Unreal 4 needing 1 TP is pretty indicative.


It seems that the IGN's 6x more than 360 article isn't that far off, but it's more like 4x 360.


Orbis:

AMD CPU 4 cores x-86

AMD GPU 1150 SPU, 1.8 teraflops, 800 mhz

2GB GDDR5 (unlikely this will be bumped to 4GB)

This is more reliable: The Curious Case of the Durango Devkit Leak

Eurogamer said:

Beyond that, further information is sketchy and unreliable. DaE reckons that the current devkits were dispatched to studios in February, and feature Intel CPUs and a graphics card that carries the NVIDIA brand - but he doesn't identify either part more specifically. He also claims that the Durango kit features more than 8GB of memory (other sources have suggested 12GB), and that it is 64-bit in nature - at this point it's worth bearing in mind that dev hardware typically features double the RAM of retail kit in order to accommodate debugging tools and other systems. DaE also says that Microsoft is targeting an eight-core CPU for the final retail hardware - if true, this must surely be based around Atom architecture to fit inside the thermal envelope. The hardware configuration seems difficult to believe as it is so divorced from the technological make-up of the current Xbox 360, and we could find no corroborative sources to establish the Intel/NVIDIA hook-up, let alone the eight-core CPU.


However, another source, speaking in the wake of the Durango developer meet-up that took place in London just before GDC this year, corroborates that the system is 64-bit in nature, adding that current DirectX 11 engines developed on PC can be ported to 64-bit and that they will run with no problem on Microsoft's new console. The platform holder achieved immense success by basing the Xbox 360 workflow closely on existing PC development tools and the DirectX API and it looks as though it aims to continue that recipe for success with its next-gen offering.


In an effort to prove the authenticity of his devkit leak, DaE also leaked a screenshot of Microsoft's Visual Studio coding tool, apparently set-up for Durango. None of the developers we spoke to disputed what they were seeing. "As an aside it's got my favourite MS return code in there: ERROR_SUCCESS," chuckled one source.


The presence on this screen of the "immintrin" element strongly suggests that the Durango coding environment is built around x86 CPU architecture, supporting the AVX (advanced vector extensions) instruction set that was added in last year's Sandy Bridge revision. However, AVX is now supported on some of the most recent AMD processors too.

Basically, PS4 will be about 4 core GPU with 2-4gb RAM, Durango will have 8 core CPU, 4-8gb RAM? You have to read through all the speculation and counterpoints etc in the threads and stuff but you get the gist, even as a non-technical person. Orbis (PS4) will be closer to Wii U than Durango which will be ahead. The chatter has been that MS is being serious with their hardware, Sony is serious but to a lesser extent, probably because of what happened with PS4. But Sony's specs were less firm than Durangos which are locked in. PS4 could be hypothetically bumped up or bumped down between now and next year.

gamingeek said:

Basically, PS4 will be about 4 core GPU with 2-4gb RAM, Durango will have 8 core CPU, 4-8gb RAM? You have to read through all the speculation and counterpoints etc in the threads and stuff but you get the gist, even as a non-technical person. Orbis (PS4) will be closer to Wii U than Durango which will be ahead. The chatter has been that MS is being serious with their hardware, Sony is serious but to a lesser extent, probably because of what happened with PS4. But Sony's specs were less firm than Durangos which are locked in. PS4 could be hypothetically bumped up or bumped down between now and next year.

Thanks for the post GG.

Hmm it sounds to me like Sony still have no idea what they want to do direction wise, and are trying to balance some kind of middle ground between what Nintendo and Microsoft do. If that's the case, I see no hope for them, honestly. What is the point in the middle ground Sony console that's slightly beefier than Wii U and less beefy than Xbox 3? That means inferior multi-platform games to Xbox yet again, and possibly even to Wii U depending on how well the Gamepad is implemented, how easy development is, etc. And IMO Sony cannot live off 1st-party published greatness the way Nintendo can, either.

Sony has shown no real leadership skills in the console industry in a long time, and this sounds like they are once again trying to just see what Nintendo and Microsoft are doing to put themselves in a position to copy them. It will likely cost more than Wii U, launch much later, and not offer much of a jump up to really matter. While the Xbox 3 will launch around the same time for a similar price? Sony is going to get hammered IMO if this is true.

Archangel3371 said:

Started up Fall of Cybertron and I must say it impressed me right away with how much it appears to be improved from the first game. This one is more colourful, looks better graphically, and seems more fast-paced and "actiony". It seems that I'm really going to enjoy this game for sure.

How did you like the flying missions in WFC? Those were my favorite parts of the game.

So this one is even MORE actiony than the last game?! In what way?

Dvader said:

This is going to be a LOOOOONG year for the Dolphins.

Patriots look great.