iga_bobovic said:

archangel3371 said:

iga_bobovic said:

GG can you see a GTA Wii game with motionplus? Jack Thompson will explode when he sees that

@Arch

What about original games on the Wii would you not like to see a game from Capcom and Square that is only possible or play better on the Wii? Games like Metroid, Trauma Center, Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, Galaxy (take away the pointer control, see how you like it than), ISS pro!

Or how about a bloody 1 to 1 Samurai sword fighting game or a kiddy version of that a 1 to 1 Lightsaber game. ?

Would you like to see that too?

Actually I could totally get into Super Mario Galaxy if it didn't have pointer control. Don't get me wrong it was great and worked very well but I totally drool at what a Mario, Metroid, or Zelda game would look like on something on par with a 360/PS3 capabilities.

Tsk tsk tsk, you do realize that without the pointer you would have to collect all the starbits by walking into them, so Galaxy would be much more tedious and less fluid. I would become like a giant collect-a-thon.

Enough abou that now about the rest. Would you rather have the same Zelda with better graphics? I would love them to do stuff with motion-plus. Can you imagine 1 to 1 sword fights, more control how you throw bombs and puzzles that take full advantage of the motion capabilities. This would change the game more significantly than HD graphics. Yes I would like to see how Metroid, Zelda and to a lesser extend Mario looks like with more power. And we will once the technology is cheap enough. But for now I want to see what motion control can do.

Yeah but they would also have made the game different in some aspects had they not used the Wii-mote. I guess personal taste has to be taken into account because personally I don't mind collect-a-thons myself I rather enjoy them but it's not like I hate it if games don't have them. I'm really very lenient in my gaming and like most things unless they're outright busted somehow. Sure I'd like to see Zelda and such with 1:1 motionplus control. I really like what the Wii-mote brings to gaming but for me I'd still be swayed more to what the more powerful machines can do over the Wii-mote controls of the game. This is why I was really hoping Microsoft would bring out their motion controller at E3.

edgecrusher said:

I don't rate my games in context of the system. I rate on how good the fucking game is, regardless of the system. That whole thing to me always seemed like one of Gamespot's cheesy ass review guidlines that they used to justify some of their assier scores.

I remember people saying that Gamespot gave the PS2 version of RE4 a lesser score than the Cube version because "the PS2 has higher standards than the Cube".....give me a fucking break. Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't as good as the Cube version. I believe they also said in the same thread that Metroid Prime wouldn't have even gotten a 9 on the PS2. As if it didn't blow away nearly every game on the PS2. I think I'd pick Metroid Prime over Jak 2 (because in essence, they said that Jak was better than Metroid) but to each his own.

When it comes to the heart of a game, and what makes a game great, it doesn't matter what system you're on.

I don't know, I think it's pretty much impossible not to rate games in the context of their platform because of the technical aspects. It wouldn't be fair to compare the audio and video aspects of the DS to say the 360.

edgecrusher said:

It really would be nice to have a Wii controller with PS3 like power. I can't deny that.

This is something I'd like to see next-gen. A reasonably priced console with 1:1 motion control but still have the option for standard control. $500 is my limit for cost but $400 would be preferrable.

archangel3371 said:

edgecrusher said:

I don't rate my games in context of the system. I rate on how good the fucking game is, regardless of the system. That whole thing to me always seemed like one of Gamespot's cheesy ass review guidlines that they used to justify some of their assier scores.

I remember people saying that Gamespot gave the PS2 version of RE4 a lesser score than the Cube version because "the PS2 has higher standards than the Cube".....give me a fucking break. Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't as good as the Cube version. I believe they also said in the same thread that Metroid Prime wouldn't have even gotten a 9 on the PS2. As if it didn't blow away nearly every game on the PS2. I think I'd pick Metroid Prime over Jak 2 (because in essence, they said that Jak was better than Metroid) but to each his own.

When it comes to the heart of a game, and what makes a game great, it doesn't matter what system you're on.

I don't know, I think it's pretty much impossible not to rate games in the context of their platform because of the technical aspects. It wouldn't be fair to compare the audio and video aspects of the DS to say the 360.

So when you play a game on one system you say, 'Well this game's is great on here, but if I played it on system X it would be considered ass because there's less polygons'?

I don't usually compare handhelds to consoles though. But that may be because I don't like handhelds.

edgecrusher said:

archangel3371 said:

edgecrusher said:

It really would be nice to have a Wii controller with PS3 like power. I can't deny that.

This is something I'd like to see next-gen. A reasonably priced console with 1:1 motion control but still have the option for standard control. $500 is my limit for cost but $400 would be preferrable.

$200 would be preferrable to me. Hell, I'd even except $150.

I was thinking the same thing $200 seems fine.

edgecrusher said:

archangel3371 said:

edgecrusher said:

I don't rate my games in context of the system. I rate on how good the fucking game is, regardless of the system. That whole thing to me always seemed like one of Gamespot's cheesy ass review guidlines that they used to justify some of their assier scores.

I remember people saying that Gamespot gave the PS2 version of RE4 a lesser score than the Cube version because "the PS2 has higher standards than the Cube".....give me a fucking break. Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't as good as the Cube version. I believe they also said in the same thread that Metroid Prime wouldn't have even gotten a 9 on the PS2. As if it didn't blow away nearly every game on the PS2. I think I'd pick Metroid Prime over Jak 2 (because in essence, they said that Jak was better than Metroid) but to each his own.

When it comes to the heart of a game, and what makes a game great, it doesn't matter what system you're on.

I don't know, I think it's pretty much impossible not to rate games in the context of their platform because of the technical aspects. It wouldn't be fair to compare the audio and video aspects of the DS to say the 360.

So when you play a game on one system you say, 'Well this game's is great on here, but if I played it on system X it would be considered ass because there's less polygons'?

I don't usually compare handhelds to consoles though. But that may be because I don't like handhelds.

No but saying a game rates a 10 in graphics on the DS is not equivalent to saying a game rates a 10 in graphics on the 360.

archangel3371 said:

edgecrusher said:

archangel3371 said:

edgecrusher said:

I don't rate my games in context of the system. I rate on how good the fucking game is, regardless of the system. That whole thing to me always seemed like one of Gamespot's cheesy ass review guidlines that they used to justify some of their assier scores.

I remember people saying that Gamespot gave the PS2 version of RE4 a lesser score than the Cube version because "the PS2 has higher standards than the Cube".....give me a fucking break. Yeah, nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't as good as the Cube version. I believe they also said in the same thread that Metroid Prime wouldn't have even gotten a 9 on the PS2. As if it didn't blow away nearly every game on the PS2. I think I'd pick Metroid Prime over Jak 2 (because in essence, they said that Jak was better than Metroid) but to each his own.

When it comes to the heart of a game, and what makes a game great, it doesn't matter what system you're on.

I don't know, I think it's pretty much impossible not to rate games in the context of their platform because of the technical aspects. It wouldn't be fair to compare the audio and video aspects of the DS to say the 360.

So when you play a game on one system you say, 'Well this game's is great on here, but if I played it on system X it would be considered ass because there's less polygons'?

I don't usually compare handhelds to consoles though. But that may be because I don't like handhelds.

No but saying a game rates a 10 in graphics on the DS is not equivalent to saying a game rates a 10 in graphics on the 360.

Oh I get ya. I don't give games an overall rating by production values though. But in that way yes you do have to be system specific. My overall rating for any given game is just based on how great of an experience it is, which is what I meant about trancsending consoles.

Suda and Mikami! Wow! Hey, wasn't Suda supposed to work with Kojima on Project S?

Oh man I can't wait to see what kind of horror game Mikami and Suda come up with. Should be very awesome.

Pretty good numbers for Soulcalibur IV what with only a day or two of sales accounted for. It'll be interesting to see how well it did in next month's chart.