gamingeek said:

edgecrusher said:

So those guys left one of the best developers out there to go co-port other people's classics on handhelds? That IS fucking sad....smart move guys.

They were suppossed to be forming game plans for EA, like an elite planning and design think tank who then gets other people to make the games. Now they are porting old PS2 games to a handheld in support of another company. Those 3 were lead designer, lead artist, lead programmer types. I wish they had stayed with Retro.

Yeah at the time I thought Retro was in serious trouble and Nintendo might just shut them down. I still don't understand why they left, unless they just didn't want to work on Nintendo IP's anymore, or they were sick of the Wii.

Old magazine covers and ads

Oh sega...

"They seem to be going back to that at least a bit, which is why I'm much more excited about the new Nintendo console than I was for the Wii. I don't think its going to be called Wii, either."

How so when they're doing exactly the same thing they did with the Wii? Releasing a console with roughly the same power as the previous generation.

The original Xbox could do HD and it did it was better than Wii LOL

Foolz said:

"They seem to be going back to that at least a bit, which is why I'm much more excited about the new Nintendo console than I was for the Wii. I don't think its going to be called Wii, either."

How so when they're doing exactly the same thing they did with the Wii? Releasing a console with roughly the same power as the previous generation.

Based on what?

Foolz said:

Based on what? We certainly haven't seen any evidence that it is yet apart from Nintendo's word...and they said exactly the same thing about the Wii!

They showed real time tech demos at E3 last year and a couple of reputable sources, Develop and IGN have pegged the power as higher than we were expecting - not the 20% above PS3 that it was at E3 2011 but much more. Even the earlier E3 spec was more powerful than PS3 as THQ and EA confirmed. It was twice as powerful as 360 and now is expected to have 4-5 X the power in the final spec - but visually that wont mean the graphics will be 4-5X better. You should also note that the final games Nintendo makes have always looked better than the tech demos they have showed off, as Zelda and Smash Bros have shown.

Eurogamer said:

Epic: 'Wii U will shock us at E3 this year'

Epic VP Mark Rein will be shocked if the Wii U isn't a hit for Nintendo when it launches later this year.



Sepaking to Eurogamer at GDC in San Francisco last week, Rein argued that parents are ready to upgrade their kid's Wii to Nintendo's new system.



"I like the Wii U. I think E3 will be a big eye-opener for people," he predicted.



"I played Batman: Arkham City on the Wii U and they are doing some really cool stuff with the controller.



"Do you remember the Zelda demo they had on it? Would you not buy a Wii U just to play that? Of course you would. That's what Nintendo is all about. Their hardware is the software delivery service for their great content. That Zelda demo was gorgeous and we can do even more than that with Unreal Engine 3. I think it will do great."



Rein added that Nintendo's brand recognition and beloved IP should see it fly off shelves, though he suggested that it might have been quicker off the mark with getting the machine to stores.



"It's a great brand that a lot of parents really trust and they're probably ready to buy their kids an HD Wii that does that much more than just being an HD Wii.



"I'd love it if they'd done it last year, but I'm excited for them to do it this year. I'd be shocked if it doesn't do well.



"Did you play that Battle Mii game? Two players would play with a Wii Remote and Nunchuk and one would play with the Wii U controller?



"I would buy a Wii U to play that game in a heartbeat. And I hope people make those kind of games with our technology. I think we've yet to really see what the Wii U can do and I think at E3 this year they're going to shock us."



Earlier this year Nintendo president Satoru Iwata suggested that, more than ever, the company will be looking to partner with third parties when developing high-spec core games that fall outside of its traditional comfort zone.



Might Epic step up to the plate with a new IP for the system, a la Gears of War on the Xbox 360?



"If I had 10 development teams I'd make a game for every single platform and make that the special game for that platform," replied Rein.



"If you're the special game on that platform you do really, really well. Gears was one of the special ones on Xbox 360. Infinity Blade is a special game on the iPhone and iPad. Shadow Complex was a special game on Xbox Live Arcade.



"But we don't have 10 development teams so it's just a matter of picking and choosing what we do and doing the best thing we can for the idea that we have."



Epic currently has two titles in development: Infinity Blade: Dungeons for iOS and Fortnite for as-yet unconfirmed platforms.

For those that missed it last year, the Wii U Garden tech demo that you saw in the conference was only a tiny portion of the full thing.

This video shows off the other half with an eagle/hawk like bird. View it from 2 minutes to see the rest of the demo.

Foolz said:

The tech demos didn't really impress me.

"It was twice as powerful as 360 and now is expected to have 4-5 X the power in the final spec."

That's more promising.

Now to step into baseless speculation, what will if the PS4/720are 10x-20x more powerful?

I actually think it has a better chance than the Wii simply because no one has bothered to take advantage of the advances in computer hardware unlike in previous generations, so the PS4/720 might not be much more powerful either and people would still be happy just because it has a HD sticker on it, and televisions have a low resolution anyway.

IGN have talked to developers working on Wii U and Nextbox software and they said that Nextbox was 20% more powerful than Wii U. I doubt Sony will leapfrog that considering their PS3 experience. They have learned their lessons I think.

Regardless of specs, it's a sure bet that Cryengine 3 will run pretty well on the system - the GDC videos looked very much like the Wii U Garden tech demo.  Frostbite 2 has been seen running on it, better than it runs on 360/PS3.

It can do better graphics than the Zelda Wii U tech demo according to Epic. It will probably be able to run the Samaritan demo at 720p at 30 FPS - epic said that if you were making a next gen game you would probably use UE3 and aim for Samaritan level sizzle - describing Samaritan as UE 3.9.

And if recent rumours are true, Nintendo might be tweaking the wii u hardware to run UE4.

Either way, the graphics are good enough.

No^

LOL look at the RE Chronicles trailer, a few minutes in Capcom does a split screen HD to SD comparison and then have again covered the SD picture in vaseline.