Dvader said:

What do you guys want from FPSs cause it sounds like you don't want linear. But then there is stuff like Bioshock whih has an open world and you don't want that either. It seems you don't want a narrative in your FPSs. Do you guys want Doom?

Yes and yes.

We want System Shock! And Doom!

Who's down for a group hug?

edgecrusher said:

Who's down for a group hug?

I've been getting real comfortable with PC gaming lately. To the point where I'm thinking next gen I may only have 1 of the 3 consoles for a long time...whichever one has the most exclusives and really offers something different from the rest as a console. Because why buy a new console that has nothing more than what I can already get on the PC?

So far, Nintendo is in the lead here. However, that could change depending on what becomes of the other consoles, and what becomes of NOA's attitude towards people like me. The console certainly has everything it needs to be amazing. But does the company want it to be?

Agnates said:

Bioshock didn't have an open world, it was pretty linear.

Anyway, I don't care what it does as long as it does it good and fun and not like a lesser copycat.

I can play mission based things like the original Ghost Recon or Rainbow Six or SWAT.

I can also play continuous world adventures like Half-Life and Metroid Prime.

Or mindless fun shooters like Call of Duty.

Or open ended stuff like Deus Ex.

Or multiplayer only stuff like Battlefield.

Or old school stuff like Serious Sam.

Or whatever else. I like fun. Just do it well and don't make yearly retreads.

Bioshock Infinite has yet to impress me. Some big talk, but the original was so much more limited than they spoke of I'm not inclined to believe them just yet. I'll probably play it at some point but I don't expect to be impressed on any level (from gunplay to story) so if they've improved so much it will be a pleasant surprise.

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

We want System Shock! And Doom!

I tried systemshock 2 and just could not play it. There were fucking monkeys killing me every minute. The combat was HORRIBLE, old RE games had better combat. So boring. I understand it was going for the deus ex kind of game but my god it was a mess. It was way too slow for me.

You are just not harcore enough. Enjoy your scripted linear shooters.

Dvader said:

The flow of the game was linear but the game world was open. It had the same structure as a metroid game, new areas would slowly open and you can go back and travel the world on your own. While it was more limite than what they said it's far more complex Than almost all FPSs, there was a ton of ways to approach any combat situation. And the story is better than almost any FPS.

But why compare it to other FPSs. System Shock 2 was a FPS/RPG hybrid and compared to that Bioshock is a casualized dumbed down version. That is the problem the PC crowd is having with Bioshock games, they are getting more and more shootery.

Ravenprose said:

^ Doom's story was better!

Of course it has no Ayn Rand so it is automatically better.

^ Not everyone. I want Bioshock to be more like Doom.

aspro said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

A question about Bioshock Infinite at E3. Did the journalist actually play the game? Or did they just see what we just seen? Because if they awarded Game of the Show to a game they have not played, than it is almost as bad as awarding the award to a game for just showing off a trailer.

I heard between 7-10 accounts of the presentation.  They did not play it.

Games journalism fails yet again.

Dvader said:

It's getting more shootery, you mean it's getting better gameplay.


Everyone needs to stop wanting Bioshock to be system shock, they are different. Bioshock does what it does almost better than any FPS out there.

Yeah, god forbid if people want the spirital sequel to play like the game it is inspired by.

Last night I went from playing RE Mercs to Zelda back to back, OMG the difference in 3D was huge. It might as well have been a new system. It was like SD to HD, that big of a gap. Not all 3D is created equal guys.