robio said:

gamingeek said:

This thing looks so incredibly cheap. Maybe that's Sony's strategy.  Make a motion controller that costs $10 and everyone will be willing to drop down the money to pick it up.

It's a fake pic. Check GG's post #306.

gamingeek said:

Why does no one care?

I've never cared for that series.

gamingeek said:

J Allard?

 Yeah, he bet former game critic N'gai Croal that if the PSP sold 10 million units in the first 6 months he'd wear dreads for a month (even at E3) -- N'gai is notable mostly for his dreads.  If the PSP did not sell that many units N'gai agreed to shave his head, fortunately for him Jallard lost.

aspro said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

aspro said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

aspro said:

I tried playing Mario Sunshine. Ugh. Camera control in that game is asinine, I'm not sure I'll be able to play it.

 You hate 3d platformers. Why are you playing Sunshine?

 I loved Galaxy, so thought I'd give it a try.

Tsk, tsk. I guess a short history lesson is in order. Back in the day when Miyamoto made Mario 64, they ran into memory problems. So to lengthen the game they designed the mission structure. Instead of having platforming from A to B, like the old Mario games, you had all kinds of different stuff.

You had usually a open sandbox like level and you did not complete it, but you collected stars. You earned stars by collecting 100 coins, eight red coins, racing Koopas, climbing somewhere, beating certain enemies. Since that day platformers were about exploration, missions and some platforming on the side. So the early 3D platformers were more collecthatons than pure platformers.

Galaxy was Miyamoto saying fuck that, lets do platforming. In Galaxy most, levels were pure platforming. Go from point A to B and get a star as reward. So in other words Galaxy is not a 3D platformer, like the other 2 Mario's. It 2D Mario in 3D (and 2D if you count the side scrolling levels).

You probably did not like the collecthatons, but you did like the 2D Mario's. This explains why you hate 3d platformers and love Galaxy. So if you want more stuff like Galaxy, here it what you can do?

Wait for Galaxy 2

Get NSMBWii it is closer to Galaxy that Sunshine will ever be

You want more Galaxy, well there is more. Like 60 stars more! Get to it. 

P.S. Galaxy is based on the pure platforming levels in Sunshine, these are awesome. Too bad they are surrounded by collecthatons. 

 I've been bamboozled!  NSMBWii is on it's way to my house. I'm still going to give Sunshine a go, but you are correct, I'm never ever enjoyed 3d platformers.  But then I've also tried some new genres this year and overcome prior biases, so it's worth trying. 

Well there are some pure platforming levels in Sunshine that are pure awesome. They actually take away your backpack and you have to solely rely on your platforming skills.

Whatever you do, stay the fuck away from Rare platformers. They are 10 times the collecthatons, you will hate it.

Good platforming, to me, is about navigating through a course. Sometimes you have to overcome puzzles, but more often then not you have to overcome physical barriers like traps, chasms, destructible environments.  

Doing those things in 3D (particularly if you are also having to control the camera) is not enjoyable to me.  The isometric Sonic released for the SEGA CD was the first to demonstrate this, and it had the benefit of a fixed camera.

I do not enjoy collecting in any for of game if it is a requirement. If it's optional I don't mind as much. In SM64 and SMG I did not even notice it, but DK64 and Jak and Daxter made me Hulk-angry with all the collecting that was required.

Also, Iga, your summary above of SMG is brilliant -- it explains the appeal of the game to me.

gamingeek said:

Why does no one care?

Cause it's $50.

PSN Premium service details?

Kotaku is saying that got some internal survey that may reveal new features and plans for the PSN premium service.

http://kotaku.com/5429592/survey-sony-considering-premium-playstation-network-subscriptions

Features include:

Token Wagering
Cloud Storage Space
Free access to Betas
Free access to Psone classics, Minis, wallpapers and themes
Full title trial- 1hour is free for new games released on PSN
Discount of store content
Extended console warranty
Loyalty Reward Program
Cross Game Chat

This proposes different packages with different groups of features, more features are in higher is the price (from 24.99$ up to 69.99$ a year).

Woah, thats a lot of stuff and all new stuff as well. Remember everything we have now is still free, there is no charge to play online. While odds are I will wont be getting this there are some options that are very interesting. Free access to PS1 games is one, how awesome is that. That is how I wanted the VC to be, a monthy service that you pay but get unlimited access to all games. Token wagering is described as a set number of tokens given to subscribers per month that can be used to be on games and exchanged for PSN content. So we can gamble PSN money or something? Extended warranty, what basterds. Cloud storage allows you to save games online, but the problem is installs not game saving.

And of course cross game chat which is a major feature of Live. I don't care much for it as I wouldnt want to talk to you if you were playing a different game anyway, but I know some love this idea.

Very interesting set of options, again this is just a survey.

darthhomer said:  

 And it's a third party game on the Wii aimed at serious gamers.

Yodariquo said:

darthhomer said:  

 And it's a third party game on the Wii aimed at serious gamers.

 Hah. Can't say that I wasn't expecting that. 

Ravenprose said:

Yodariquo said:

What?  Americans don't know the awesomeness that is Kinder Surprise?  Your poor, toyless souls.

Nope. Never heard of it before. Reminds me of a Cadbury Creme Egg.

Yummy!

Principally maybe, but practically there is difference between having creme and a toy inside a confectionary.

Dvader said:

gamingeek said:

Why does no one care?

Cause it's $50. Cause it's not HD.

Fixed.