Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

2010 year of the action game!!!

Bayonetta, GoW 3, Castlevania and Dante's Inferno

Castlevania looks like it can compete with GoW, its amazing! Jason Isaacs as Dracula, thats some fantastic casting. Man that was amazing, I need this game now.

Castlevania and action game just does not sit right with me. Always saw the games as either metoid clones or action platformers!

Castlevania is the very definition of the action game. So many action games have taken from that series. The Metroid thing came later, the platforming was there cause you need something to do in a sidescroller. Its always been THE action game.

What the hell are you talking about? What you say does not make sense at all! It was the action game? No it was not, there were plenty of platforming sequences. The reason you died 90% of the time is because you fell in a hole. Play Castlevania 3 and see for yourself!

That does not make it a platformer, it had platforming elements for sure but action was always the focus. You can fall into a hole in Contra as well. Every game had holes to fall into back then. Giant holes of death dont work well in 3D games, its not like there isnt platforming elements shown in the trailer. Castlavania is an action game series, always has been.

Please play Castlevania 3 and see how wrong you are!

OMG one Castlevania game out of like 50 billion. I know there is platforming in old Castlevania, that doesnt mean its not an action game.

Ravenprose said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Ravenprose said:

Earthworm Jim Download Game is Remake

Why are they remaking EJ? Why not just release it as-is on all consoles? Shoot, EJ is already on VC! Stupid suits.

 Be sure to buy the superior Genesis version.

 What makes the Genesis version superior?

 Extra level not found on the Snes and some stuff I can't remember.

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

2010 year of the action game!!!

Bayonetta, GoW 3, Castlevania and Dante's Inferno

Castlevania looks like it can compete with GoW, its amazing! Jason Isaacs as Dracula, thats some fantastic casting. Man that was amazing, I need this game now.

Castlevania and action game just does not sit right with me. Always saw the games as either metoid clones or action platformers!

Castlevania is the very definition of the action game. So many action games have taken from that series. The Metroid thing came later, the platforming was there cause you need something to do in a sidescroller. Its always been THE action game.

What the hell are you talking about? What you say does not make sense at all! It was the action game? No it was not, there were plenty of platforming sequences. The reason you died 90% of the time is because you fell in a hole. Play Castlevania 3 and see for yourself!

That does not make it a platformer, it had platforming elements for sure but action was always the focus. You can fall into a hole in Contra as well. Every game had holes to fall into back then. Giant holes of death dont work well in 3D games, its not like there isnt platforming elements shown in the trailer. Castlavania is an action game series, always has been.

Please play Castlevania 3 and see how wrong you are!

OMG one Castlevania game out of like 50 billion. I know there is platforming in old Castlevania, that doesnt mean its not an action game.

 It means that it is an action/platformer. Because you have plenty of action and plenty of platforming. It's not rocket science dude. 

Oh and even if they are forced to make it a platformer because of the technical limitations, it was still an action/platformer. 

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Ravenprose said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Ravenprose said:

Earthworm Jim Download Game is Remake

Why are they remaking EJ? Why not just release it as-is on all consoles? Shoot, EJ is already on VC! Stupid suits.

Be sure to buy the superior Genesis version.

What makes the Genesis version superior?

Extra level not found on the Snes and some stuff I can't remember.

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Dvader said:

2010 year of the action game!!!

Bayonetta, GoW 3, Castlevania and Dante's Inferno

Castlevania looks like it can compete with GoW, its amazing! Jason Isaacs as Dracula, thats some fantastic casting. Man that was amazing, I need this game now.

Castlevania and action game just does not sit right with me. Always saw the games as either metoid clones or action platformers!

Castlevania is the very definition of the action game. So many action games have taken from that series. The Metroid thing came later, the platforming was there cause you need something to do in a sidescroller. Its always been THE action game.

What the hell are you talking about? What you say does not make sense at all! It was the action game? No it was not, there were plenty of platforming sequences. The reason you died 90% of the time is because you fell in a hole. Play Castlevania 3 and see for yourself!

That does not make it a platformer, it had platforming elements for sure but action was always the focus. You can fall into a hole in Contra as well. Every game had holes to fall into back then. Giant holes of death dont work well in 3D games, its not like there isnt platforming elements shown in the trailer. Castlavania is an action game series, always has been.

Please play Castlevania 3 and see how wrong you are!

OMG one Castlevania game out of like 50 billion. I know there is platforming in old Castlevania, that doesnt mean its not an action game.

It means that it is an action/platformer. Because you have plenty of action and plenty of platforming. It's not rocket science dude.

Oh and even if they are forced to make it a platformer because of the technical limitations, it was still an action/platformer.

Its an action game thats the genre it falls into, it can be described as an action/platformer, but again back then every freaking game was a platformer. If it makes you feel better I can describe that trailer as an action/platformer too as it shows him jumping and climbing and such.

But its an action game.

 Yeah you are right all games were platformers back then. Like Double Dragon, Final Fight, Golden Axe and Gunstar Heroes.

I hope you can sense the sarcasm here!

"I think that they may see sales suffer, and certainly will see sales down year-over-year. So we have to see if they cut, unbundle and cut, or rebundle (with Wii Sports Resort plus Wii Motion Plus). They’re hard to figure out." - Wedbush Morgan analyst, Michael Pachter

Hmm, didn't he say the same thing when 360 Arcade dropped to $200? I don't recall Wii suffering significantly.

I do agree with him that they need to bundle WSR and MotionPlus with the Wii this holiday. The original Wii Sports has definately aged.

Ravenprose said:

Pachter - Wii sales may suffer due to PS3 price cut

"I think that they may see sales suffer, and certainly will see sales down year-over-year. So we have to see if they cut, unbundle and cut, or rebundle (with Wii Sports Resort plus Wii Motion Plus). They’re hard to figure out." - Wedbush Morgan analyst, Michael Pachter

Hmm, didn't he say the same thing when 360 Arcade dropped to $200? I don't recall Wii suffering significantly.

I do agree with him that they need to bundle WSR and MotionPlus with the Wii this holiday. The original Wii Sports has definately aged.

Sales are slowing regardless of what the rivals do. The recession has hit and the new software Nintendo is introducing isn't compelling enough to boost US sales. In Japan MH3 boosted Wii sales to outsell the PS3 10:1 in one week then it dropped but still outselling by multiples the rival home consoles.

Wii needs a price cut or new bundle/colours/software as much as anyone else these days.

Ravenprose said:

gamingeek said:

Ravenprose said:

Pachter - Wii sales may suffer due to PS3 price cut

"I think that they may see sales suffer, and certainly will see sales down year-over-year. So we have to see if they cut, unbundle and cut, or rebundle (with Wii Sports Resort plus Wii Motion Plus). They’re hard to figure out." - Wedbush Morgan analyst, Michael Pachter

Hmm, didn't he say the same thing when 360 Arcade dropped to $200? I don't recall Wii suffering significantly.

I do agree with him that they need to bundle WSR and MotionPlus with the Wii this holiday. The original Wii Sports has definately aged.

Sales are slowing regardless of what the rivals do. The recession has hit and the new software Nintendo is introducing isn't compelling enough to boost US sales. In Japan MH3 boosted Wii sales to outsell the PS3 10:1 in one week then it dropped but still outselling by multiples the rival home consoles.

Wii needs a price cut or new bundle/colours/software as much as anyone else these days.

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't agree with Pachter in that PS3/360 price drops are affecting Wii sales whatsoever. That's like saying if Captain Chrunch cereal dropped its price, then the sales of Oatmeal will suffer; they're different markets.

Perhaps that will be true when Natal and Sony's Wand come out, but not until then.

Yeah I agree with you too.

CoD is a big failure

Both Red Steel 2 and Metroid Prime 3 look better and they run at 60 fps!

travo said:

So it's finally the price of a PS2 when it first came out?

Only took 3 years. LOL

Really, WHAT were they THINKING?!?!

gamingeek said:

I don't know Vader. Yeah most games were a platforming cross back then but that doesn't change the notion that platforming was a huge element.

Look at how Metroid went from 2-D to 3-D, it perfectly captured the gameplay in exploration and platforming and shooting. Remember that Castlevania only had the licence attached to this Lords of Shadow game. They've taken a licence and attached it to God of War basically.

GoW is what a Castlevania game should be, when was it not. Actually it all started with DMC which everyone thought "OMG this is exactly what a Castlevania game should be in 3D". Thats how you do Castlevania style action in 3D. Of course it should have an open castle to explore, and some obstacles along the way like say a clock tower with rotating gears and such. But the core of a Castlevania game is the action. I wouldnt say the same about metroid, I think Metroid leans a lot more to the exploration, moody kind of atmosphere, and I think a balance is needed to capture Metroid and Prime did that. If they made a Castlevania game with the pacing of Metroid Prime it would be a complete disaster. Castlevania is action all the time.

I really dont get what kind of game you want out of Castlevania in 3D.