Agnates said:After the thing, off to Colony 6, but a boss is kicking my ass. I've barely done side quests so I'll go do that.
Spider dude? I can give you advice but it helps if you level up and register some collectables in the collectopedia first to get EXP.
Dvader said:How much extra will this game cost me to import?
Zavvi offer free shipping worldwide, but you will have to pay the same price we europeans regularly pay for internet games. $50.
Iga_Bobovic said:It took me eight hour, before I left the first area. Sidequesting Majora style. It took me like forever to figure out how to chain attacks. But it was actually easy. Also done some gem crafting, made some topple gems. I do not quite yet fully understand how gem crafting works, but I am getting there. So much depth in this game.
I've been honing my crafting skills. The only thing I don't quite understand is when you choose 2 characters and they ping pong the process back to each other. Basically your ether whatever needs to be the same rank, there are 1, 2, 3 etc marks dividing them - to combine. You add gems until one quality (like HP Up or Strength Up) is 100% or over. Red text shows you what will happen if you mix a particular gem. You can pair together different gems to give dual status improvements.
In battle, if I'm not luring people towards me I go into battle, hit B to rally everyone then I try a front attack to break, wait for Reyn to topple then circle around and backstrike for massive damage. My back strike is more powerful than the frigging Monado Buster.
Anyway, complaint time, first complaint and it's a fairly big one: the sidequests.
They aren't really set up properly, I mean I will use GTA as an example. You get a small cutscene setting up a mission. When you arrive at your destination there is a little cutscene before you start. Then usually when you finish there is a pay off cutscene.
In Zelda you get a sidequest and have to return to complete it. In this game the characters are so small and you can't really zoom in to see face detail on these low poly characters. In zelda when you talk to someone the camera moves and zooms in so you can get personal with them, see their character and emotions. In this game you go up to a small, barely viewable character you get a mission which inevitably involves killing some monster. Then when you do the game just auto completes a box by ticking it and saying it's done. It's not very satisfying to do it that way, although it does make things less of a hassle.
Anyway, I hit the Bionis' leg, you know the place
And holy shite, even on a giant HDTV where wii looks crap it was amazing. I almost couldn't believe it was being done on Wii. I love the dino's and horsies that pootle about. Totally epic environment. Love it.
GG, did you go back to Colony 9? There are new quest there, most of which are awesome.
Minor spoiler, the Monado is not only used for battles.
No, it was a tentacled Mechon thing. I'm past it now but I'm not going to Colony 6 yet. I've done almost all of the quests I found in the Bionis' Leg area so I'm going back to Colony 9 where I barely did any quests. I've done almost no crafting either, my current equipment has barely any slots so the crystals I got from quests and the collectopedia are more than enough to fill all of them at this point.
Wow at Gaur Plains, just wow. There are lakes, there are caves, waterfalls, swamps, ledges, two floors. It is much bigger than the whole overworld in Twilight Princess, but yet much more complex and with more stuff to do. There are even NPC on the plain.
And no matter how big it is, it is just a single leg of a single giant.
All your impressions sounds like the RPG I dream of. Open world, giant beasts roaming the land, tons of quests to do and a great battle system. Hmmmmmmm, I may start searching for import websites.
Ok, don't worry about the quests with the clock gg, I asked on GAF and they confirmed they're not actually time limited, but later main story points may affect the area or whatever else making them unavailable. So it's up to you when you will proceed with the story past that point, and other than that you can complete them at your own pace. I think I read elsewhere that the points of no return are obvious too but maybe that doesn't apply to the whole game. Or maybe I saw that in the last let's play video that spoiled a few things about Bionis' Leg.
Agnates said:No, it was a tentacled Mechon thing. I'm past it now but I'm not going to Colony 6 yet. I've done almost all of the quests I found in the Bionis' Leg area so I'm going back to Colony 9 where I barely did any quests. I've done almost no crafting either, my current equipment has barely any slots so the crystals I got from quests and the collectopedia are more than enough to fill all of them at this point.
I'm doing tons of sidequests in Bionis' leg because they say that they are time limited and I don't want to miss anything. You were right, the side quests get better, the more and more I did the more I had to return and follow up on quests with multiple objectives. I just wish the NPCs were chunkier and larger and had a zelda style camera swoop and zoom when you talk to them.
I might head back to Colony 9 as I didn't do most of the quests there either.
Iga_Bobovic said:Wow at Gaur Plains, just wow. There are lakes, there are caves, waterfalls, swamps, ledges, two floors. It is much bigger than the whole overworld in Twilight Princess, but yet much more complex and with more stuff to do. There are even NPC on the plain.
And no matter how big it is, it is just a single leg of a single giant.
The crazy thing is that Gaur plain is just one bit of an area that gets 3 times as big, with no load screens, just seamless. Hell, I still need to uncover parts of the map.
Dvader said:All your impressions sounds like the RPG I dream of. Open world, giant beasts roaming the land, tons of quests to do and a great battle system. Hmmmmmmm, I may start searching for import websites.
The battle system is so good, I find myself just slaying everything because it's fun. If you hate grinding in rpgs, in this game grinding is fun.
Agnates said:Ok, don't worry about the quests with the clock gg, I asked on GAF and they confirmed they're not actually time limited, but later main story points may affect the area or whatever else making them unavailable. So it's up to you when you will proceed with the story past that point, and other than that you can complete them at your own pace. I think I read elsewhere that the points of no return are obvious too but maybe that doesn't apply to the whole game. Or maybe I saw that in the last let's play video that spoiled a few things about Bionis' Leg.
Thanks Agnates, that's really helpful. I think I will stick around Bionis leg for a while then maybe head back to Colony 9.
I was very sad last night One of the missions made me kill harmless Ponies! I had to slay the baby Ponies too.
Did you guys bust into the Tirkin headquarters yet?
This is Bionis leg - what's more impressive is that the area you see in the pic is about one sixth or less of the explorable Bionis leg area.
The Mechonis
Also there are some cool wallpapers here
Edgecrusher/Dvader there is a guide on Joystiq on how to play Xenoblade on your USA Wii
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/19/how-to-play-xenoblade-chronicles-if-you-live-in-america/
The quests on Colony 9 were boring compared to the ones on Bionis' Leg so after doing a few of the more involved ones I advanced the story instead of stick around. New party member get and moving to a wholly new outdoor area now, I don't like it as much as the plains so far but it's different at least. At level 25 or so I was already slightly above the enemies in the Colony 6 story bits so if you're around that at the moment you may want to proceed with the story also gg. I've been playing this game way too much, closing in on 20 hours.
Ha, you can even remove Shulk from the party and play with three others if you want once you get the next one. Of course you need Shulk to fight the Mechon but as you know a lot of the game isn't against them, at least so far, I imagine Mechon are more prominent the closer you get to certain story parts and the end. Anyway, this guy has some cool skills but you can't repeat them too much. He basically can inflict Break, Topple and some other things all by himself, but for those to take effect on top of the damage dealt you first need to perform a specific skill, so you can only cause all these once in a while if you let all his arts fill up and start with that skill then proceed with the others. He can also leech aggro from the other members, buff himself with haste and strength and remove some negative status effects at the same time.
He's fun to play as, he reminds me of Paladins in World of Warcraft since they also had moves that to deal more damage or cause certain effects needed to be used during a brief period after another skill. I'll try setting the others as primary characters to check out their skills and play style first hand too.
Dvader said:I saw that guide. What I need now is a guide on finding the best way to import it. And by best I mean cheapest.
I already told you:
http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/nintendo-wii/xenoblade-chronicles/10501221.html
Agnates said:The quests on Colony 9 were boring compared to the ones on Bionis' Leg so after doing a few of the more involved ones I advanced the story instead of stick around. New party member get and moving to a wholly new outdoor area now, I don't like it as much as the plains so far but it's different at least. At level 25 or so I was already slightly above the enemies in the Colony 6 story bits so if you're around that at the moment you may want to proceed with the story also gg. I've been playing this game way too much, closing in on 20 hours.
Ha, you can even remove Shulk from the party and play with three others if you want once you get the next one. Of course you need Shulk to fight the Mechon but as you know a lot of the game isn't against them, at least so far, I imagine Mechon are more prominent the closer you get to certain story parts and the end. Anyway, this guy has some cool skills but you can't repeat them too much. He basically can inflict Break, Topple and some other things all by himself, but for those to take effect on top of the damage dealt you first need to perform a specific skill, so you can only cause all these once in a while if you let all his arts fill up and start with that skill then proceed with the others. He can also leech aggro from the other members, buff himself with haste and strength and remove some negative status effects at the same time.
He's fun to play as, he reminds me of Paladins in World of Warcraft since they also had moves that to deal more damage or cause certain effects needed to be used during a brief period after another skill. I'll try setting the others as primary characters to check out their skills and play style first hand too.
I think I am at the same point as you, just beat the Ether mines and boss.
I didn't enjoy the mines so much, at first it was all small and easy to get lost, then the big chamber which was a nice idea but the design was repetitive and the open plains of Bionis' Leg made it seem restrictive and boring. Things got epic in the boss fight though, I was a little weaker so I had to grind and rejig my weapons and armour. Very fun beating him. I also went back to Colony 9 - saw that there are some big, powerful monsters in areas I hadn't seen before.
I can't seem to find Violent Andante in Skystage for one mission in Bionis Leg.
I assume you are talking about the returning character up top^ so what is the specific skill you need to use first?
I don't think I can use that person as I need Sharla to heal and Reyn is pretty powerful now.
Oh yeah I hope you guys are registering stuff in the Collectipedia - you get exp and when you complete a row a special gem, level 2 usually and when you complete a page you get a special weapon.
Oh yeah where the hell is Ewan in the refugee camp? I need to give him some stuff and the bastard has frigging disappeared!
Wow you are slow GG, I already finished the next area and am now in such an awesome area you would not believe. And I did all the sidequest I could
A hint go talk to Desiree in Colony 9 and you will learn a surprising thing about Xorn (the boss you just beat)!
gamingeek said:Oh yeah where the hell is Ewan in the refugee camp? I need to give him some stuff and the bastard has frigging disappeared!
He usually walks outside, check your affinity chart to see the times he is active.
And Violet Ardente roams the area, he looks like the triceratops things.
I already have done half a dozen sidequest where you have to make a choice. Two people want the same object, who do you give it to? Sometimes their is good and evil choice, but other times it is not so black and white.
The sidequest are addictive there is even a quest that has two ways of getting things done. Sneak in or fight your way in.
Also talk to all people and not just the ones with exclamation mark on their heads. Talking to them will give you affinity and it will fill in your affinity chart. You will learn who is brother and sister, who are friends, who are business partner, who are rivals. Plus you might learn a thing or two about the story.
The main story is really well paced. If you want to you can go through the main story pretty fast (well it will still last you a long time to finish it). The story itself is pretty good. With plenty of twist and turns. You might think it is a cliche story, but just as you think that, the game throws you a curve ball. The cutscenes are short and to the point and the characters are good, with no emo-ness or annoying characters as of yet.
Iga_Bobovic said:Wow you are slow GG, I already finished the next area and am now in such an awesome area you would not believe. And I did all the sidequest I could
A hint go talk to Desiree in Colony 9 and you will learn a surprising thing about Xorn (the boss you just beat)!
He usually walks outside, check your affinity chart to see the times he is active.
And Violet Ardente roams the area, he looks like the triceratops things.
I stayed for ages in Bionis Leg doing all the sidequests because the game said they were time limited, then went back to do some in Colony 9. Also, I was grinding a lot and hunting down items. Did some gem crafting etc too.
What district is desiree in?
I've never seen Violent Aredente, is he one of those raging triceratops? I was looking for a unique looking monster, he's just another angry looking triceratops?
I didn't even know that the affinity chart showed when people are active, thanks.
Game is the UK Electronic Boutique Games - the biggest nationwide gaming retail chain of stores.
I have done al the sidequest that are available to me. I usually walk around at day and night and find all the quest givers. Unnamed quest givers can give you multiple quest at the same time. Then I go out and finish multiple quests. Then I go back and collect my rewards.
Why would you be grinding? No need for that. I got exp point by doing sidequests, exploring and mining for gems. Desiree is in the commercial district, she hangs out at the balcony. Near the gem stall there are stairs that bring you up to the balcony.
Violet, is an unique monster, but he does look like a triceratops.
GG you are going to love the next two areas.
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