SupremeAC said:

So their online plan is an app for smart devices?  Screw them, I know fully well that they will only support Android and Apple.  And they want to charge for that?  I'm sorry, but the only thing I ever played online was Splatoon and a smattering of Mario Kart, I can live without those.  It'd be interesting to see what happens if Splatoon tanks because of their paid online.  Then again, I might get it, play it for free a month or 2 and never look back.

True, just wait till the parents find out the kids what to play splatoon online and now there is an extra fee. That will go over well.

32G of storage not counting system updates!

Jesus...

Also no word on the difference between Docked and Portable play.  I'm guessing the only difference will be resolution and framerates.  It'll be like the vanilla PS4 and the Pro wrapped in one package.

So how much would we be willing to pay for online subscription?  Me, unless it turns out to be superb value (it will not), I'd pay them 20 for it.  30 maybe, but I'd feel robbed.

Eurogamer is saying that online play may not be ready for Europe in time for the launch.  What the fuck?

And yeah, I'd be more happy with free online, but if it's like €20 I'd pay up.

Yeah, that's the kicker.  Nintendo don't have enough online games to make it worth anything really.  If anything, you should be able to just purchase 'days' and use them whenever you like.

300 bucks is still a lot for a console.

There is no way you can watch that footage, and see it and not go "yep, that's a nintendo machine", so if anything they are speaking to the same market they always have, but this time with a better name than the WiiU and 3DS?

They are well known to have shitty online play, so what's their solution? Let's just not talk about it...um bitch what? No now is the time to start explaining that shit, in detail. Especially since you spent so much time explaining your fucking joy cons.

The presentation was too fucking ....what's the word giantbomb uses for cutesy games Mems? Whimsy? whatever, the point is it was too much. And not in an endearing way.

The only new nintendo Ip was 1-2-Switch. A minigame collection. And Arms? Arms is a bad name, but admittedly the game looked fun.

With the eventual death of Platinum Games on the horizon, the fact that my beat-em up options are about to be God of Bore 4 and the trash known as No More Heroes 3 is depressing as ****. Suda 51 sucks.

How is it that Xenoblade's art style gets worse with each new entry in that franchise? And yet it's on stronger hardware each time too? Also I never played a single second of Xenbolade, as I'm still going through Xenogears. Which makes me question anyone gassing up that dude's work.

SMTV could be neato, too bad they didn't show gameplay.

Bravely Default was only good for like a half, so I'm not super thrilled about a jrpg

Street Fighter 2? FuckYEAH....oh it's HDRemix, god be more shit Capcom!

Not enough shown to make you think third party are putting more of an effort to make Switch skus of games.

They didn't call it Spla2n. The one time video games should have done that stupid numbers replacing letters thing, the one time I'd be on board with it, they don't do it. Worst industry of all time.

The 2 best games shown at this thing, in 2017 is Mario and Zelda. Again. in 2017. New ip assholes, also one of them is a WiiU game. I basically have no reason to buy that game at launch when I have a WiiU for any other reason than I want 30 frames locked over 24 frames (which I probably do, but I might just suffer through it).

The only benefits I'm seeing of this thing

-It's different from the rest of the competition (which is nice, but not that nice)

-It combines their handheld/console ecosystem

-Nintendo's games+some random third party exclusive or two that will go under the radar

Which is basically the same fucking machine they've been making since the Snes.

Just got home, did I miss anything?

You should just watch the parental control trailer and you'll be fine.

So, lets recap:

PRO:

• The actual concept is still pretty great
• ports of modern day games seem possible (Steep from Ubisoft)
• you get 2 player gaming out of the box
• HD rumble sounds super, but will need to be implemented properly by devs.  Could result in unique indie games

CON:

• Switch is again handicapped by an expensive controller.
• extra controllers are indeed expensive, with each joycon in essence being, and costing as much, as a wiimote
• No sign of a sensorbar, so no IR pointer.
• moving all internal dev teams to one sku seems to have not achieved the desired effect of having more games to show
• 3rd party content seems to be dead in the water already
• online functionality is still a large unkonwn, possibly even missing at launch and will be charged for
• Battery life isn't great, 2.5-6 hours
• Internal memory is paltry at 32GB, at least you'll be able to boost it with miniSD cards, which, to me, is to be preferred over further inflating the cost by overpricing for a larger built in capacity.
• The hardware itself doesn't seem much more capable than the WiiU, with the docked mode creating a PS4/PS4Pro like rift.

QUESTIONMARKS:

• how much will Nintendo charge for online considering that there might very well be very few online games?  If they're reasonable they won't charge for more than half of what Sony and MS do.  But I think we can trust them to do the unreasonable thing.
• How will the 3D camera thing that can scan your hands work?