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Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:04:37
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His reputation is in tatters. EA have said that their relationship is unchanged but if people dont buy next years game because of the scandal, the series will surely die?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234379/Tiger-Woods-Porn-star-Joslyn-James-tenth-woman-linked-disgraced-golfer.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo


The Telegraph said:
Tiger Woods: Porn star Joslyn James is tenth woman linked to disgraced golfer

  • Backlash begins as sponsor Gatorade drops Tiger Focus drink named after Woods
  • Experts claim he is now 'beyond PR redemption'
  • Swedish TV personality claims she was asked to have affair with golfer
  • Furious wife Elin Nordegren 'flung mobile phone at Woods breaking his tooth'
  • My mother's collapsed: Dramatic 911 call from Woods' mansion leaked online

A pornography actress was today the tenth woman to be linked to scandal-hit golfer Tiger Woods.

Joslyn James, who has starred in a number of extremely explicit adult films, allegedly slept with the sportsman on a number of occasions.

According to sports website Deadspin.com, she had boasted of their relationship to a friend.

James, whose real name is Veronica Siwik-Daniels,  is said to have considered herself Woods' 'full-time mistress.'

Shortly after the golfer's personal life imploded, she posted a status update on her Facebook page, saying: 'I find it comical when certain individuals have no life of their own and want to be ME... so terribly bad.'

James, 39, joins a string of women to have reportedly had affairs with the golfer, including another porn star Holly Sampson, 36.

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Number 10: Porn star Joslyn James (right) is the latest woman to be linked to Tiger Woods

In further revelations, one of Sweden's top celebrities claims she was approached by man acting on behalf of Woods about having an affair with the golfer.

Carolina Gynning - infamous in her homeland for having sex on Big Brother - said the incident happened 'six or seven years ago' when she was living in London.

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Advances: Swedish presenter Carolina Gynning claimed she was propositioned on behalf of Woods

Now a famous TV presenter in Stockholm, she blogged that she was at a party where she met Woods' 'agent' at a party.

She described him as a 'really strange man who I assumed was gay,' adding 'he wanted to tell me something special.'

After accepting a lunch invitation, she said the man asked her 'strange questions'.

'He wondered if I knew who Tiger Woods was, and obviously I did,' she wrote. 'He said he was friends with Tiger and that Tiger loved girls like me.'

'He said that Tiger was looking for a girlfriend and that he wanted to introduce me to him.

'I never got back to the guy, obviously, even if Tiger is rich, he’s also ugly as sin and absolutely not my type. Was that guy a pimp for Tiger?'

Gynning also expressed support for Woods' wife, fellow Elin Nordegren, urging her to take the couple’s two children and 'move home to Sweden.'

The fresh batch of revelations emerged as a backlash against Woods, 33, gathered pace.

One  of America's top PR experts said his image would be tarnished forever after a string of lurid allegations.

Howard Rubenstein said: 'He is beyond PR redemption. He is in public relations hell right now. There is not a PR man on Earth who can restore.

'He's haemorrhaging; even a transfusion won't help. He can never re-establish that perfect image of a happily married family man. Never.'

He adviced Woods to separate from his wife as quickly as possible. 'Who knows how many more women are going to emerge?,' he added. 'This could continue for a long time.'

Adverts featuring the tarnished golfer have been pulled from broadcasts and cable channels in the States.

According to media research group Nielson, the last prime-time commercial starring Woods - a 30-second avert for Gillette - played on November 29.

There were no adverts featuring the billionaire during weekend sports programmes.

Woods is also losing his own brand of Gatorade sport drink named Tiger Focus, which was launched in March 2008.

The company, one of the golf superstar's biggest sponsors, along with Nike and American Express, claimed that the decision was nothing to do with the current scandal.

'We decided several months ago to discontinue Gatorade Tiger Focus along with some other products to make room for our planned series of innovative products in 2010,' the company said in a statement.

Meanwhile, Woods ranking as a celebrity product endorser plunged from 6th to 24th on the influential Davie Brown Index.

The scale tracks 2,800 celebrities with the golfer  now placed between Julia Roberts and former US Secretary of State Colin Powell.

TIGER'S WOMEN

1. Rachel Uchitel, 31, VIP hostess

2. Kalika Moquin, 27, club executive

3. Jamie Grubbs, reality TV star

4. Jamie Jungers, 26, cocktail waitress

5. Mindy Lawton, 33, waitress

6. Cori Rist, 31, Hooter

7. Holly Sampson, 36, porn star

8. Mystery waitress

9. Unidentified British TV star

10. Joslyn James, porn star

Woods' life began to unravel on November 27 after a bizarre car accident in the early hours of the morning.

The golfer, who had carefully cultivated an image as a clean-living family man, crashed into a tree and a fire hydrant outside his house in Windermere, Florida.

Emergency services found him unconscious in the road after being dragged out of his £35,000 Cadillac Escalade by his wife Elin Nordegren.

But the affair was initially shrouded in mystery until details of a string of women who had alleged affairs with Woods began to emerge.

It was claimed today that Nordegren had made a furious phone call to Rachel Uchitel - one of the women subsequently linked to Woods - around 90 minutes before the crash.

According to Star magazine, the golfer's wife yelled 'I know everything.'

Nordegren then reportedly hurled the phone at her husband, knocking out a tooth, before grabbing a golf club and chasing him around the house.

'She did thousands of dollars of damage,' a source told the magazine. 'Tiger ran out to his Escalade barefoot to get away from her.'

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Erin Nordegren and Tiger Woods

Support: Mrs Holmberg (left) had flown to the US to support her daughter Elin Nordegren (right, with husband Tiger Woods) after he was accused of having a string of affairs

It was revealed yesterday that Florida authorities feared Woods had overdosed on prescription drugs.

The TMZ website claims the hospital admission chart listed 'OD' and showed that he was having trouble breathing.

He was admitted under the alias 'William Smith' and was with his wife.

A police report released on Monday said Woods had been drinking before the crash and had taken powerful painkillers Vicodin and Ambien sleeping pills.

Apart from releasing a statement a week ago apologising for his 'transgressions, Woods has made no comment and remained out of sight since the accident.

He is said to have offered his wife millions to keep her from walking out on him and taking their children Sam, two, and ten-month-old Charlie.

But she recently bought a £1.3million island hideway in Sweden, fuelling speculation that the former children's nanny and bikini model is preparing to start a new life in her homeland.

Nordegren, who married Woods in 2004, is still living at the family's £1.7million mansion, despite earlier reports she had moved out.

She was at the centre of a further drama after her mother Barbro Holmberg collapsed in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

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Emergency: Tiger Woods' mother-in-law Barbro Holmberg is wheeled into hospital on a stretcher after collapsing at the golfer's home

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Mansion: Mrs Holmberg returned to Woods' mansion in Windermere, Florida, after being treated in hospital

A dramatic 911 call made after the 57-year-old Swedish politician became ill was leaked online overnight.

It is believed she became sick after confronting Woods over claims that he had cheated on her daughter Nordegren with a string of mistresses.

In a recording made at 2.35am, a sobbing woman - understood to be Nordegren - told the emergency operator that her mother had collapsed.

'Hurry up,' the caller said. 'She collapsed in the bathroom. What do I do?'

The dispatcher then makes attempts to calm the woman down and asks her to check on her mother's condition.

A few seconds later the caller said Mrs Holmberg was breathing normally, talking and did not appear to be hurt from her fall.

'She said she collapsed,' the woman said. 'She fainted. She was down for a while.

'I heard her fall and ran up there and tried to get her up. I don't think she's injured.

She then apologises for the call, adding: 'I'm sorry. I got so scared.'

A child can be heard crying in the background

Mrs Holmberg was taken to Health Central Hospital, in Florida, where she was carried inside on a stretcher. Nordegren was seen driving behind the ambulance.

After spending 11 hours at the centre, Mrs Holmberg was released yesterday evening and returned to Woods' mansion in Windermere, near Orlando.

Earlier reports suggested she had been suffering from acute food poisoning but it is understood she had an anxiety attack after the argument.

Tiger Woods ten women

The women: 1. Jaimee Grubbs, 2. Holly Sampson, 3. Jamie Jungers, 4. Mindy Lawton, 5. Cori Rist, 6. Kalika Moquin, 7. Rachel Uchitel, 8. Unidentified cocktail waitress, 9. Joslyn James and 10. Unnamed British TV presenter

Woods stands accused of having affairs with at least ten women, a mixture of waitresses, club hosts, television presenters and porn stars.

The eight women named so far are Rachel Uchitel, Kalika Moquin, Jamie Grubbs, Jamie Jungers, Mindy Lawton, Cori Rist, Holly Sampson and Joslyn James.

An unnamed cocktail waitress says she had a two-year affair with the billionare golfer and claims he told her his marriage was a sham and 'just for publicity'.

Michael O'Quinn, who is representing the 26-year-old, said that she met Woods in 2004 while working as a cocktail waitress for VIPs at the Roxy Nightclub near his home in Orlando.

He was already engaged at the time.

'Her relationship was not a one-night stand,' Mr O'Quinn told the New York Post. 'It was long-term, and it was witnessed by many people in this community. She has detailed knowledge of his life, his habits.'

The waitress is said to have had qualms about the affair after Woods married Swedish au pair Miss Nordegren in 2004, according to the TMZ website.

There are also reports that a British TV star was involved with Woods, taking the tally to ten.

A new photograph of the golfer flirting with a scantily-clad cocktail waitress at a Las Vegas club emerged last night.

The image, taken on October 4, shows the scandal-hit golfer talking intimately to a blonde dressed in a strappy black leotard and white collar with black bow-tie.

They were at Tao, the Vegas club where Rachel Uchitel and Kalika Moquin - two of the women already linked to Woods - used to work.

911 CALL FROM WOODS' MANSION IN FULL

Caller (C): Oh my god (crying)

Operator (O): Fire and rescue

C: Oh my god. My mum just collapsed

O: Ok. Calm down. It's ok. What's the address? (Break in tape) And is she breathing? They're coming. It's ok. Calm down for a minute

C: She collapsed in the bathroom. What can I do?

O: Is she breathing?

C: Hold on. I just ran to the phone. Hold on... hold on (Pause. A child can be heard crying in the background) She's fine.

O: She's fine?

C: I'm sorry

O:Try and calm down for me. You said she collapsed?

C: Yes

O: How old is your mum?

C: 57

O: You said she's breathing. Is she conscious?

C: Yes

O: Can she tell you what happened?

C: It's a hardline so I'm running back and forth.

O: Is there any way you can pick up another phone and take it closer to her?

C: Yes. (Pause) She's fine

O: You're saying she's fine

C: Yes

O: She can talk

C: Yes

O: Can she tell you what happened?

C: She says she collapsed. She just fainted. She went down for a while.

O: How do you know?

C: Because I heard her fall and I went up there and I tried to get her up

O: Is she injured from her fall?

C: I don't think she is

O: Is she bleeding from anywhere?

C: No

O: And has she not been feeling well or anything?

C: I don't know. I don't know

O: Is her breathing completely normal?

C: I'm sorry

O: That's ok. Do you still want the paramedics to come out?

C: I don't think so. I think we're fine

O: Has she got any history of heart problems?

C: No. She says no. I'm sorry. I got so scared

O: That's fine. We'd rather come and check her over and get her vitals and check if everything's ok

C: It's not urgent now

O: Is it ok if the come out and check her?

C: Yes

O: We'll come out and check her. Keep an eye on her. If anything gets any worse call us right back. They'll be there in a few minutes


Edited: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:06:22

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The new little bit is the part that could really hurt Tiger.  #7 on your list - Rachel Utchitel who was the first named mistress may actually be more than a mistress.  There's now a suggestion that was reported that she's in charge of a high priced escort service and that Tiger was actually hiring her to find him women.

Personally I think he can still rebound and actually the more women that get named the better off he is because he can just play the "I'm a sex addict and I'm going into rehab" card.  One thing we just looooooove in America is watching people fall and then rebuild their life.  Think how many times Robert Downey Jr. fucked up and went to jail, and now he's absolutely beloved.  But if it does turn out that he's been paying for sex, that's going to change things up a little bit.  

If nothing else it's been fun to watch!

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I had an affair with Tiger Woods

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It's crazy how fickle the media is, and how fast they turn ugly once a celebrity does anything that implies they're just an average person. As for the EA game, I can't picture someone else's face on the covers, because golf is a boring old man sport and Tiger is the only person young and hip enough to grab my attention.
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He'll be fine (as so far as EA is concerned).

I'm actually more inclined to think favorably of him now than before, at least I know he's not a robot (his previous image).

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He'll be fine (as so far as EA is concerned).

I'm actually more inclined to think favorably of him now than before, at least I know he's not a robot (his previous image).

What have you got against robotic personalities? 0_o

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Tiger Woods is a robot. He's a diddling machine!

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Yodariquo said:
aspro said:
He'll be fine (as so far as EA is concerned).

I'm actually more inclined to think favorably of him now than before, at least I know he's not a robot (his previous image).

What have you got against robotic personalities? 0_o

Yeah man, what the hell?

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Who would have thought money and fame can get you laid with whoever you want? At least his wife got a chance to get even (somewhat) by breaking his face and chasing him with a club.
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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:48:42
In the next golf game they need to add a free roaming city where you have to do missions for all your whores and hide them from your crazy wife.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:50:06
God some of those women are nasty compared to his wife. In fact none of them are as pretty as his wife, what is wrong with him. Maybe 3 and 9 are worth it.
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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:53:44

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God some of those women are nasty compared to his wife. In fact none of them are as pretty as his wife, what is wrong with him. Maybe 3 and 9 are worth it.

 He is married to the pretty one, so he would do her the most. The uglier ones are on the side. Look Tiger is a billionaire, if he found a prettier girl, would he just not marry her? So it makes perfect sense.

Pretty = wife => Uglier = mistresses.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:55:55

Dvader said:
In the next golf game they need to add a free roaming city where you have to do missions for all your whores and hide them from your crazy wife.

LOL Who chases you down the city to stick a golf club up your asshole.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:42:32

Dvader said:
God some of those women are nasty compared to his wife. In fact none of them are as pretty as his wife, what is wrong with him. Maybe 3 and 9 are worth it.

I heard someone make a good analogy and that was, "... if you eat at the best steakhouse every night for 6 years after a while you crave a drive-thru hamburger..."


Dvader said:
In the next golf game they need to add a free roaming city where you have to do missions for all your whores and hide them from your crazy wife.

Awesome.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:02:49

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Dvader said:
In the next golf game they need to add a free roaming city where you have to do missions for all your whores and hide them from your crazy wife.

LOL Who chases you down the city to stick a golf club up your asshole.

LOL

All they need to Greg Norman's golf. Wait, that's been done and is still going strong, right?

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:29:14

Oh for fucks sake. Really? Here too? I was hoping that this was the one place where I couldn't and wouldn't hear about this.

No offense, but I couldn't honestly fucking care. The games are fine on their own, that if EA were to drop Tiger, it wouldn't impact it much.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:45:27

SteelAttack said:
Who would have thought money and fame can get you laid with whoever you want? At least his wife got a chance to get even (somewhat) by breaking his face and chasing him with a club.

LOL

Dvader said:
In the next golf game they need to add a free roaming city where you have to do missions for all your whores and hide them from your crazy wife.

LOL

Someone please explain what happened with woman 4 on that list LOL Jesus Christ Tiger.

Anyhow his behaviour is just bizaare to me. But on the other hand, don't tell me this woman married Tiger for his looks or personality - she married a bank account.

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So I'm LMAO either way here.

And WTF is wrong with Tiger, his wife looks like this and he is prowling around like a man-whore. LOL

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:47:00

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Oh for fucks sake. Really? Here too? I was hoping that this was the one place where I couldn't and wouldn't hear about this.

There is, the NPD thread. Shall I link you?

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:13:05
Moved this to Non-Gaming because clearly nobody cares about that part of the discussion.

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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:27

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Moved this to Non-Gaming because clearly nobody cares about that part of the discussion.

So...people don't give two shits about golf games? Sounds about right. LOL I'd sandblast my asshole before buying a golf game.

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