I'm kind of surprised at your negative impressions of the game. Kind of a bummer to hear. 
Also, Yuji Naka did a tweet saying a fan remake of Sonic 2 was better than Sonic 4. I think he said something like Sonic 2's fan remake was 256 times better or something like that.
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ASK_Story said:I'm kind of surprised at your negative impressions of the game. Kind of a bummer to hear.
Also, Yuji Naka did a tweet saying a fan remake of Sonic 2 was better than Sonic 4. I think he said something like Sonic 2's fan remake was 256 times better or something like that.
It probably is.
Naka said nothing about Sonic 4, he just gave a "like" or whatever tweeter has to another person that linked the fan remake video and said the 256 thing. He probably meant it for the video itself. It was for that video you recently posted Vader, then said "hey I'm the Sonic guy here" after seeing others had already posted it.
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Ahhh. That's a bummer. I wanted to believe.
Thanks for the impressions. That's sort of what I was reading between the lines of a lot of the early reviews. All the reviews seemed to want it to be good and maybe bumped up their scores slightly just for that reason. Sad to hear. Maybe the next episode will be a little better.
Are there any online features? Leaderboards or anything like that maybe?
This thread has a plus 1 when it needs a minus 20.
Sonic Cycle. 
robio said:Thanks for the impressions. That's sort of what I was reading between the lines of a lot of the early reviews. All the reviews seemed to want it to be good and maybe bumped up their scores slightly just for that reason. Sad to hear. Maybe the next episode will be a little better.
Are there any online features? Leaderboards or anything like that maybe?
Yes there are leaderboards and as I said I will have to get all my enjoyment from that. I am sure the use of homing attack and some of the paths laid out in the game can make for interesting time runs. But that is more Rush's thing. The Genesis sonic games I can just play to enjoy them, they were simply incredible experiences.
Dvader said:I may learn to enjoy it when my competitive juices start to flow but as just a normal Sonic game its garbage.
Save your juices for Galaxy 2, I am still waiting for your time in the first level first star! 
Iga_Bobovic said:Save your juices for Galaxy 2, I am still waiting for your time in the first level first star!
I thought I had beat your ass on that, you gave me some bogus time which I had beaten.
Ok I like it much more now. The last level, the metropolis zone remake feels like Genesis sonic, not as good but ok. If the whole next game is like this it could be something to look forward to. The final boss is very well done, I was surprised.
After that I started to do time attack and as I predicted I started to enjoy the game much more. There are a bunch of paths in each level so finding the right one and nailing the execution is a thrill. I am now ranked 5th in the world in Mad Gear Act 1. Getting all the chaos emeralds is tough. At first I hated the levels cause it controled differently than Sonic 1 and it seemed boring. The later ones are very challenging. Luckily you cant just choose the bonus levels in stage select you need to get to them the normal way and that I love cause it forces me to replay levels which allow me to get more and more familiar with them.
After the initial shock that its not Genesis Sonic I am starting to see a good game in there. I can see why it got some of the high scores it did. I bet casual fans that have not played a Genesis Sonic in a long time will play it and think its a cool game. People like me know the series to well and see that it is a poor mans Genesis Sonic. But Dimps knows how to do one thing right, that is to make levels that are awesome to speed run, this is no different. If you just want to play the game to finish it, its too short and costs too much, dont bother. If you are like me and have enjoyed the Rush games and some of the 3D sonics I think you will find something enjoyable.
Dvader said:Iga_Bobovic said:Save your juices for Galaxy 2, I am still waiting for your time in the first level first star!
I thought I had beat your ass on that, you gave me some bogus time which I had beaten.
That was a test time, now give me your time, so I can beat that one.We keep doing that until you give up. It will be you, for I am incapable of giving up.
If you are not going to play like this, don't bother.
Dvader said:Iga_Bobovic said:That was a test time, now give me your time, so I can beat that one.We keep doing that until you give up. It will be you, for I am incapable of giving up.
I posted the time enough times, go back its there.
You did not post a specific time! Check it, write it on a paper and give it to me. the exact time, not 2 something.
Iga_Bobovic said:You did not post a specific time! Check it, write it on a paper and give it to me. the exact time, not 2 something.
Where is the thread, I'm not looking for it.
Dvader said:Iga_Bobovic said:You did not post a specific time! Check it, write it on a paper and give it to me. the exact time, not 2 something.
Where is the thread, I'm not looking for it.
Screw. that thread use Phantom Leo's 'I challenge you' thread. The Galaxy 2 thread is filled with videos, that make us look as incompetent amateurs.
Iga_Bobovic said:Screw. that thread use Phantom Leo's 'I challenge you' thread. The Galaxy 2 thread is filled with videos, that make us look as incompetent amateurs.
Go ahead and post some of your best times in various levels and I will counter them later.
This thread is now about Vader and Iga's dick measuring contest.
I played about half of Sonic 4 tonight, its crap, what a surprise...
Immediately Sonic feels weird, his speed, jumps and momentum are all wrong. Homing attack is used for everything and that really kills the flow of the game. The first world is simple, boring with lots of springs and loops. There is a level with a bunch of vines that you have to home attack with to gain momentum to launch up. Problem is the homing attack doesnt like to lock on to that vine and if you grab it without homing into it you can create enough momentum to launch yourself, very annoying section. Once you beat the first act you unlock every single level, you dont have to play the game in any order, its idiotic.
The second level is new version of the Sonic 2 casino. Here at least I saw moments of level design and ok platforming. The second act with all the floating cards was well done. But the actual slot machines are very slow compared to Sonic 2, everything about the level is just worse. There is a moment where you have this huge drop and the floor is like ramp that leads into either side which is a huge wall. Now in Sonic to you need to build momentum by running up one side and coming down quickly to boost up the other side. I tried to do that as a ball as I normally do and you dont build up speed. You have to simply run up the wall cause Sonic seems to have glue on his shoes as he gains momentum while running up a wall. The third act uses canons as a gimmick, the stage is filled with cannons and it just gets annoying after a while, it slows everything down.
The new labyrinth zone seems ok, slightly better platforming than the last. New gimmick with this ball rolling thing where you need to keep sonic balanced on it. In other platformers all these different situations would be good variety. Sonic is not other platformers, the reason these games are so special is cause the way they play and the level design has no equivalent, there is nothing like it. This game is not trying to be that kind of game, its trying to borrow from other platformers and it messes up the formula. The second act has sonic with a torch in the dark and you light up the level as using the torch on different light panels, some of these activate platforms. At one point I was stuck in a light the panels in the right order puzzle, wtf. Why is there a puzzle that stops all movement in a Sonic game.
The boss fights are bad replicas of former bosses, homing attack makes them easy. They even managed to screw up the bonus level, the one from Sonic 1 with the rotating level. How do you completely screw up something they did right in 1991. The music is complete booty, not a memorable song in the bunch.
Sonic 4 as a classic Sonic game SUCKS. The only enjoyment I will get out of this game is to play it like Rush or the 3D Sonics, which is to replay the levels over and over again for high scores and time attack. At least those games had gameplay mechanics which were made for score and time challenges. I may learn to enjoy it when my competitive juices start to flow but as just a normal Sonic game its garbage.