I am still in shock at the used game multiple account thing. I almost still don't believe it. They can't be that crazy.

Omg all the details on this thing are like a nightmare. The TV shit is separate?

Dvader said:

I am still in shock at the used game multiple account thing. I almost still don't believe it. They can't be that crazy.

robio said:

It's still not 100% official right? Its still just been reported but not confirmed?

From the article:

"Microsoft has said that a fee will be charged for any game disc to be tied to a second Xbox Live account after its initial installation. This is likely to limit the market for second-hand games, but would not eliminate the possibility altogether. The company is yet to confirm whether players will be able to play games from disc or run them on secondary accounts without paying for the installation, nor has it given any indication of what the fee may be."

phantom_leo said:

So... when's the next Nintendo Direct? I'd like to hear about some games!

The day of E3, right?

So the headline is: "Doesn't Require Always Online"?  Bit underwhelming of a presentation.

I just thought of one more parallel between Nintendo and MS' Xbox philosophy:

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The first time this was revealed:

I thought: Is that a TV remote?

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The first time this was revealed:

I thought: Is that a TV remote?

aspro said:

We'll just have to amicably disagree on this one. It's not that they played, it was their exdplitation of it for PR purposes.  A moment of silence before the game would have been just as effective.

Its not even on the sport, the media makes a huge deal about it. The first sport back from a tragic event is major news whether the sport wants it or not. Its up to the sport to acknowledge how big an event it is not just for them but for all the people watching. If they did nothing I would take that as an insult, like they just don't care.

Dvader said:

aspro said:

Giant Bomb:

UPDATE: The used games stuff only gets weirder and weirder. Xbox exec Phil Harrison told Eurogamer there's a fee associated with used games, while Xbox Support is saying the exact opposite on Twitter. On the other hand, Kotaku also talked to Harrison, who said Microsoft is working out an online trade system that's yet to be announced, and games will be playable on all user accounts on an individual system. According to Harrison, you will have to pay a fee if you borrow a game disc from a friend, a fee that, at least for new games, will be the same cost your friend probably paid.

This news is a million times more interesting than anything MS showed at the show.

MS needs to get on top of this fast as it will be the entire story until there is clarification. It's possible that you could deactivate a game from your system and then sell the used disc and only pay a fee if it had not been deactivated, but how would a retailer check it was in the clear?  The mind boggles.

aspro said:

Eurogamer:

EG: The big thing that everything is concerned about is the Xbox One's attitude to second-hand gaming. I really want to try to get to the bottom of this issue before we talk about anything else.

Harrison: Okay, so, I can understand where some of the confusion may have come from, so let me try to help out there. First of all, you can buy a game on a disc from a retail store, come home and install it to your Xbox One. The disc contains all the bits and data on that game, which you can then give to your friend, and they can then install it on their Xbox One. No restriction on that, except that the second person obviously has to pay for it.

You can purchase a game in two ways: you can purchase it from a retail store or you can download it. So the act of putting the bits on the hard drive - the Xbox One doesn't really know or care what method the bits got into the machine, if it was from a disc or downloaded from Xbox Live. But obviously the users will then have to purchase that content.

What I think people are now confusing is the purchasing of content in the first instance with the ability to trade and resell the previously played games. We have a solution for that and we will be announcing exactly how that works in due course.

EG: Why can't you talk about it today?

Harrison: Today is about introducing the platform and it's about introducing the big themes of what Xbox One is about as a new entertainment device that brings together games, TV and entertainment into one place. I think it's inappropriate for us to go into every avenue of tiny little detail today, but we will in due course, so...

EG: Okay. I mean, it's just funny having come from a panel where the amount of detail they were going into on the silicon and power-switching on that, to come in here and be told you can't talk about something that it sounds like you already know the answer to and would clear up a lot of people's suspicions and concerns.

Harrison: Well, let me say it again: we will have a solution that we will talk about in very short order about how previously played games can be traded between players.

EG: When you install a game on Xbox One, does it lock it to a single account on that system, and therefore if someone in your household has another account does it restrict them from playing?

Harrison: No.

Good lord, bye bye Gamefly. I can never borrow a game from a friend. What shit.