Foolz said:

^What he said, and apparently it somehow got 100 listens regularly in the past. How the fuck that happened and who those people are nobody knows. It also affects us in no way given that these people don't comment here or on iTunes. If they did still wouldn't really matter, though.

The only reason I stopped listening is because the thread on the gaming forum disappeared.

aspro said:

As for the Wii rumors vis a vis power, I quote Method Man, "I could give it to you, but what you gonna do with it?"

I really don't care until it releases. It is hard to conceive that it would only be on par with a 360 given that even the 360 cut corners (and that was 5-6 years ago).

It be virtually impossible for the Wii not to be more powerful as the current gen. But like Foolz and Method Man said, it's what they do with it that matters.

I'm still not buying until I can feel what the controller feels like in a store, I'm still sceptical about the form factor. Also still interested in how they handle local multiplayer and the controllers.

IMO I don't think third parties are going to do much at all with the power, or if they do it will be unseen. As in the higher power will most probably be needed to get a different 3D scene on the padlet screen so in essence resources would be split between TV and pad screen and you wouldn't see a graphical difference that noticible - in terms of it being 'better' than 360.

I also do not think that there will be a lot of exclusives on this thing, mostly ports of 360 games and then devs will go onto making Nextbox and PS4 games so you won't get a lot of ground up Wii U games not from Nintendo, which show what it can do. You would also have to have a dev just use the pad screen as a 2D menu, or item switching device and that would leave max power to render visuals on the HDTV. That's when you could see a difference.

You should see the difference between RE Revelations in 2D vs 3D. Flip that 3D slider to off and you instantly get better aliasing, smoother edges and a better frame rate and it makes a big difference.

Ravenprose said:

OH MY FUCKING WORD....MIND BLOWN!!!

I never realised that the nunchuck is basically the middle piece of the N64 controller. That is insane!

gamingeek said:

edgecrusher said:

The article kind of seemed like a badly written April Fools Joke by someone wanting to piss off Nintendo fans. I'll tell you what though, if its not true its a pretty shitty thing to spread false negative rumors as truth about any system. If it gets around enough it will be something people believe whether true or not.

But yeah I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't at LEAST use a card like the 4870 at this point. They're pretty cheap now. And highly capable.

GI and Eurogamer and Digital Foundry are all affiliates, pretty much the same site. DF had that article that said that the Wii U casing was so small it had to be crappy performance.

This is the GC and Xbox 1 motherboards next to each other.

Well the Gamecube proved that Nintendo can be masters at packing power in a small shell. I don't understand why people forget this. The only reason the Wii wasn't any fucking smaller is because you wouldn't be able to put a disc in it or have those Cube ports on the side if it was!

Especially if they're not putting a big hard drive in the new system (which I think is a mistake, but if that's the only mistake I will take it) I don't see why it couldn't be a fairly compact console. You borught up a good point about the dev kits too...how there is different versions out there. Nintendo has likely just started sending out dev kits to some of the smaller developers and I'm sure only the best of the best have the most recent, top spec kits right now. So if this low power story is true, it could be coming from guys who don't even have the kits that will be the final machine.

Either way, if the console is going to be able to run a 1st generation Zelda that looks like that, its a powerful console beyond the 2005/2006 consoles.

BF3 media - cancelled game

So you mean instead of having a thread for each podcast you'd find it easier with one for all of them?

Foolz said:

So you mean instead of having a thread for each podcast you'd find it easier with one for all of them?

It's not just the one thread. Put it this way, the old way was like a stop on the way to work.

Now it's like having to make a special trip out of town. I know it's only a couple of clicks away and all but I need to remind myself to go there and check everything.

GAF is funny, so this is the DF graph they had up to say that the wii U is so small it has to be weak:

GAF dude said:

The Xbоx weight 8.8 pounds and is:


12.6 in wide x 4 in high x 10.2 in deep



The Xbоx 360 weights 7.7 pounds and is:


12.15 in wide x 3.27 in high x 10.15 in deep



whoa the xbox 360 is going to be weaker than the xbox!!!

Other GAF dude said: "The Wii U has a larger rear fan, an additional side fan, and at least twice as much vent area. Combined with tech that's at least 9 years newer than the Wii, smaller die sizes and no space taken up by Gamecube ports/memory slots, and it makes for a console you can't just compare using volume alone."

Anyone remember this article? It was from September last year

THQ Wii U Developer Quote of the Day: THQ on Power and Graphics

Question: What games should gamers be most excited for from THQ?

THQ Employee: Well, personally, gamers are most excited for "Darksiders II" and "Metro: Last Light".


Question: And what platforms will we see these games on?

THQ Employee: Both games are expected for Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Wii U, and PC.


Question: Is there any graphical differences between the console versions and the PC version?

THQ Employee: Well I would expect the PC versions to be graphically superior over the console versions. And I'm sure the Wii U versions of Darksiders 2 and Metro Last Light will be superior to the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions.


Question: In what ways would the Wii U version be superior over the 360/PS3 versions?

THQ Employee: Well the Wii U is full of potential as far as specs go. I know that Metro: Last Light is running at a good 50-60 fps on the PC, so I'm not sure how the Wii U version will compare to that. But the Wii U version of games from ALL developers and publishers, have potential for much smoother framerates, improved textures, and additional bonus content that the 360/PS3 version's won't have. In a way, buying the Wii U version over the 360/PS3 versions, will be like buying the Blu-ray version of a movie instead of the standard dvd version. You get better visuals, and more additional content with the Wii U version of any game compared to the other console version. But this will only happen as long as a developer or publisher puts in the time and effort instead of doing a straight port.


Question: I noticed a lot of games for 360 and PS3 don't take advantage of TRUE 1080p. Could we see more games on Wii U taking advantage of true 1080p resolution?

THQ Employee: The Wii U is much more powerful than the other HD consoles, so Wii U doesn't have a huge problem doing 1080p for the majority of its games. Will Darksiders 2 and Metro: Last Light be in 1080p on Wii U? I can't speak for the teams behind those games. I don't work on those specific teams so I can't say what they plan to do with the Wii U versions of their games as far as graphics or content go. I do know based on the specs I've seen, the console is more than capable of graphics that surpass current consoles. It's like I said before. Expect majority of third party Wii U games from most publishers to have true 1080p, additional content, and smoother framrates than what the PS3/360 versions offer. If you want the DEFINITIVE version of any game in your library, I would suggest either the PC version or the Wii U version...at least for now. This is not a knock against the 360/PS3 versions of any games either. Fans of the 360 and PS3 are the majority of the gamers who game...period. So publishers have to give them the best product we can.


Question: There is a lot of emphasis on graphics nowadays. Where do you see graphics going with future consoles? And will the Wii U be able to graphically compete against new consoles from Sony and Microsoft?

THQ Employee: Listening to people within the company, people are pretty happy with the specs of the Wii U. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about. There is one thing I want to mention though. Better graphics is not all rosy for gamers in the long run. Better graphics means that game developers have to increase their staff and their budgets so games will tap into the full potential of next gen hardware. The costs to hire more artists or programmers to a team would get passed down to gamers. Which is why 360 and PS3 games went up 10 bucks compared to the previous generation with Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox. It's fun to dream about the possibilities of the kind of graphics you could see if a console had 10 times better graphics than the current consoles. But with a console that is 10 times more powerful...expect 10 dollars to be added to the price tag every generation. Again, I'm just speculating. I'm not saying any publisher would add to the price. But games aren't selling like they use to, and costs to produce high budget games need to be passed down to the consumers who can afford to play. I predict a very expensive future in gaming.

Oh wait, I see what you mean. You mean before there was the podcast tab at all and it was just in the gaming section?

What if I start a thread there just for you and post the podcasts in it?

FUCKING ROFL at a volume comparison. Who are these idiots?

Fable: The Journey Kinect criticism "unfair", say Fable's creators

Dene Carter said there's plenty of room within the popular Fable franchise for spin-offs, including the likes of a Kinect exclusive.




"Why there can't be room for a Kinect side spin-off of the Fable franchise I don't know," he said. "That seems a bit odd. I can't think of any good reason why that would not work. If this was a Mario thing for example, if this was a Mario shooter based on the Wii controller, nobody would go, 'That's a terrible thing. That should never have happened. That's a betrayal blah blah blah vitriol vitriol.'




"But strangely enough Fable seems to be treated very differently from that. We all know it's a franchise. We all know it's a brand. The fact somebody wants to do something a bit different with that brand while we're waiting for the next big game, that doesn't seem like something people should get too angry about. If you don't like it, don't buy it."




He added: "If they were talking about the core franchise, I would have an awful lot of time for that. It's more the fact that they're complaining about a different team doing something different based on the franchise. If it was called Black & White shooter I don't think we'd have had the same level."

"When Mario Kart came out, nobody was going, what?! There's no jumping! That's not the next Mario game! What are you talking about Miyamoto! I hate you! I'm going to burn your house down and kill your children!" Simon said.

Wait, a mario shooter?

What was the reaction when a Sonic game got guns?

Anyway, yesterday a well known GAF poster had a thread announcing James Bond Skyfall Wii U. Then his post was hastily deleted and he vanished.

The game will be a multiplat, I'm just interested because didn't Activision shutdown the developer of that third person Bond game? So.... could Eurocom be making it? A man can hope.

Foolz said:

But it would allow you to listen to the podcasts in secret?

Not now that you've told everyone.

and it's not even an anonymous source!