Agnates said:

Well thy have shown little but it's apparent that you'll need to have the kid and the monster work together to solve environmental and other challenges. Not exactly the same as say, Panzer Dragoon, where despite having a "large monster" with you the gameplay's still just as in Space Harrior or After Burner II or StarFox making the addition of the monster a mere story device than anything to do with gameplay. I can't think of many other games that do this except for that Majin game which was announced after the unveiling of The Last Guardian.

But will the monster behave any differently than an AI partner does in every game that has one, that is the key. WW had dungeons where you control other characters and solve puzzles using both. Majin is an example of one of those games where you get commands for something and you tell them what to do and where to go to solve puzzles. Enslaved has parts where you tell the chick to do stuff to get around. Its been done a lot.

Well considering it's a full game built around this rather than a 5 minute gimmick yeah I'm sure they'll try to do more with it. Portals weren't introduced by Portal. Prey had them. Narbacular Drop had them.

What I was saying was that Ico's "save the girl" mechanic was different to most since you had to drag her with you, protect her from harm and solve puzzles that enable her to proceed when she can't keep up with you. That's very different to Zelda's "save the girl" mechanic which has absolutely nothing to do with the girl and you just play an action adventure and eventually defeat evil and "save the girl". The same, yet different, goal.

That's all the point I was making with that game, not how basic or complex it was or how boring you found it to be. Just that a phrase can't encompass a whole game as that same phrase can apply to fundamentally different things. Like "you have a pet". People have pets in Nintendogs. And Pokemon. And The Last Guardian. All differ. Majin is the closest thing to The Last Guardian, that's hardly a common occurence and considering how traditional Majin seems to be in its approach The Last Guardian will probably end up very different to that also.

edgecrusher said:

Provided the new Nintendo will launch in early 2012 and provided they could have it ported by then, I would be in favor of Skyward Sword moving to it. The Wii is really fading fast when it comes to the hardcore scene, nobody seems to care anymore. Even though the rumors and speculation have seemingly come out of nowhere, its actually fitting and perfect timing by Nintendo to move on at this point. Hell even my 10 year old nephews don't play the Wii anymore, all they do is play 360. The games and the community are just not there. Though somehow the console continues to sell solid numbers each month.

I want Zelda now dammit. Porting it over would be pointless as it wont be like GC to Wii, its not going to become a graphically amazing game  on the new console.

I thought the puzzles in ICO were genius at the time, though I haven't played the game in years. I remember them feeling very natural, which I loved about them seeeing as how many games just have these ridiculous puzzles that make no sense.

Dvader said:

edgecrusher said:

I thought the puzzles in ICO were genius at the time, though I haven't played the game in years. I remember them feeling very natural, which I loved about them seeeing as how many games just have these ridiculous puzzles that make no sense.

Honestly I dont remember much of the game I just remember I was like "MEH" at the end of it. So I am arguing my feelings.

Play it again. You could have it done in an afternoon.

Yeah I don't really get all the praise Team Ico gets myself. I found Ico to be a pretty ugly looking game, mainly because everything looked so damned blurry and I ended up getting bored while playing it. I'm not sure how far I got.

Still though they've only made two games with this third one to come out sometime eventually and I'm kind of skeptical on it being delayed because it's going to feature something amazingly new. They seem like an overrated development team to me.

No PSN is making me an ANGRY, ANGRY Leo...

I wanna play Killzone and I wanna play Mortal Kombat against Vader!!  

Got Portal, but it's on PS3 too...

I thought the only person buying it on the site was Vader, so I picked up the same version as him in hopes of playing some co-op!