So I did some updates, posted the NMH2 preview which everyone will ignore.

Seriously you're like Babiez!

No More heroes 2 gamesradar preview

"Few things deflate one’s sense of manhood like having your lightsaber run out of juice right when you’re about to cut some dude in half. Even worse: The process of “recharging” the wounded fellow is uncomfortably familiar. You just sort of grab it and shake it around until it’s ready for another go."

Iga_Bobovic said:

Holy crap at NMH.

People who do not want story spoilers, please do not read anything. Just know that the overworld is gone.

"Unlike the original game, which let you physically explore the city in an open-world setting, you'll now navigate to different locations via a world map and warp directly to them."

Suda said that everyone is playing Mario right now, but once they are done they will play NMH2. I say he is right, day one. (for cheap of course)

That video interview looked cool. The game looks like everything the first game should have been. Better AI and physics, visuals, story, effects.

gamingeek said:

This is worrying, shouldn't the game be almost done by now? Seriously they finished Twilight Princess end of 06, its 3 years later. If the Zelda team hadn't had to make Wii Fit, (yes you read that correctly) maybe we'd be playing this by now.

Well, Reggie did imply that it wasn't coming out next year on GT TV, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I don't begrudge the team for making something other than another Zelda game. It must get very boring working on the same franchise over and over and over and over again. Perhaps Wii Fit helped them to recharge their creative batteries so-to-speak?

Ravenprose said:

gamingeek said:

This is worrying, shouldn't the game be almost done by now? Seriously they finished Twilight Princess end of 06, its 3 years later. If the Zelda team hadn't had to make Wii Fit, (yes you read that correctly) maybe we'd be playing this by now.

Well, Reggie did imply that it wasn't coming out next year on GT TV, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I don't begrudge the team for making something other than another Zelda game. It must get very boring working on the same franchise over and over and over and over again. Perhaps Wii Fit helped them to recharge their creative batteries so-to-speak?

Zelda team did not make Wii Fit! Wii Fit is made by EAD group 1. Zelda by EAD group 3, which is also named Zelda team, because they only make Zelda games. See here for proof. Where the hell did you get that silly idea? 

I am guessing they started working on Zelda Wii in 2005. Remember that they delayed Zelda to get it on the Wii also. So all the artists and level designers were probably already brainstorming in 2005. 

And Miyamoto said last E3 that they are first going to make the structure and gameplay before they are going to do the graphical style. As long as they have everything else done, like dungeons, overworld, Wii motion+ controls, then the graphical style should not take that long. I am hoping for a "mature"cell shaded look. I want Zelda to look like the art in the OOT, MM and TP manuals. 

Fuck yeah, check the thread.

No More Heroes Desperate Struggle Hold onto your balls!! Previews on page 2

Ravenprose said:

Iga_Bobovic said:

Zelda team did not make Wii Fit! Wii Fit is made by EAD group 1. Zelda by EAD group 3, which is also named Zelda team, because they only make Zelda games. Where the hell did you get that silly idea?

I should have known not to take Gamingeek's word on that!

You should know by now never to doubt the Geek. This interview is only with 5 team members and 3 of them were working on Twilight Princess before Wii Fit. A large portion of Wii Fit staff are Zelda guys. Miyamoto said that ageeeeeeeeees ago.

http://us.wii.com/wii-fit/iwata_asks/vol4_page1.jsp

Iga_Bobovic said:

That are just 3 people. Nintendo staff rotates a lot. So what? Some people that worked on Mario Kart could have filled in for these people working on Wii Fit. I still do not see how Wii Fit has delayed the next Zelda games. I you want to put blame on something, blame it on Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass, because they were actually created by Zelda team.

Why would anyone feel the need to blame anyone while they were creating 2 masterful games such as those?

Iga_Bobovic said:

That are just 3 people. Nintendo staff rotates a lot. So what? Some people that worked on Mario Kart could have filled in for these people working on Wii Fit. I still do not see how Wii Fit has delayed the next Zelda games. I you want to put blame on something, blame it on Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass, because they were actually created by Zelda team.

It was a roundtable with 5 of the devs and 3 of them are Zelda guys, you want Iwata to sit the whole frigging team down and ask?

Miyamoto himself said that the Zelda team was heavily involved in making Wii fit and Wii Music. Then he said that they were reforming for the next zelda game. Why would it need reforming unless it had been split up? After Twilight princess they took a break developing different titles across the range, shifting employees about to different projects, Wii Fit being the main one.

The Hyliasaid:

Shigeru Miyamoto, ...noted that while Pikmin's Lead Designer worked on Wii Music much like Zelda's top talent took on Wii Fit, both developers are now back to working on their classic franchises."

What does this mean? It means that some of Zelda's top developers were working on Wii Fit, but have now gone back to doing what they do best, working on Zelda games!  

Miyamoto said:

What you can't forget is that we need to continue to make Zelda games. (laughs) The way we operate is that we usually have people moving from one team to another, so giving people the opportunity to move around from a project like a Zelda game to something a little different like WiiMusic has really helped invigorate the staff members and helped create a really great internal team. In fact, the lead art designer on WiiMusic is one of the lead art designers of Pikmin. The art design for WiiFit was one of the Zelda designers. But they've (all) gone back to their original teams. (laughs)

Iwata said:

Wii Fit originally started out with Miyamoto-san’s idea that weighing yourself daily can be fun, so this really felt like a project that was started from scratch. These stories of fateful encounters, the birth of the Wii Balance Board, getting people who worked on Zelda onboard, and finally bringing the project to completion despite originally having had no idea where to even start, are what I consider to be the elements that really make product development interesting.

Oyama said:

The first thing I thought when I was assigned to the Wii Fit team was, "What’s this team working on?" Even though I was in the same department, I had heard almost nothing about this project and I had absolutely no idea what the team was working on. Besides, for the past three years I had been doing nothing but designing enemy characters for Zelda games. I didn’t even know what they expected from me! (laughs) That’s why, unlike some of the other team members, I didn’t feel anything like I was destined to work on Wii Fit. (laughs) Having said that, I do remember approaching Wii Fit as a completely novel piece of software, and I considered the ways in which I could reflect my experience in this project.

Shibata said:

I actually wanted to work on a Zelda game! (laughs) But ever since my days attending the Game Seminar, I had been hearing that it was important to develop as many different types of game as possible to increase the gaming population, and that it was important to put more effort into games that appeal to female users..

So these guys didn't even want to do Wii Fit it seems like they were just shifted onto it.

gamingeek said:

 

Yeah like I said they shift their employees around.  

The way we operate is that we usually have people moving from one team to another, so giving people the opportunity to move around from a project like a Zelda game to something a little different like WiiMusic has really helped invigorate the staff members and helped create a really great internal team. In fact, the lead art designer on WiiMusic is one of the lead art designers of Pikmin. The art design for WiiFit was one of the Zelda designers. But they've (all) gone back to their original teams. (laughs)

See it not just Zelda team. The Pikmin team was also relocated. Nintendo relocates their team all the time. Someone had to make Wii Fit. And they made two Zelda games after TP. So your point does not stand at all. 

But that does not matter. You said Zelda team was developing Wii Fit. Which is wrong. Just accept it and move on. 

GG you made two statement

1) Zelda team made Wii Fit

Which is false. 

2) Thanks to Wii Fit we do not have a Zelda

Again wrong. There have been two Zelda's plus Link's crossbow training

Fact are facts. Sorry for letting reality get in the way of your complaining