punk rebel ecks said:

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2 a strong possiblity?

That would be something. Would it actually be a sequel to Bad Fur Day or something like Twelve Tails?

punk rebel ecks said:

yodariquo said:

Here's why games can't be art: Art is an expression.  Games are a set of rules.  A game's story, music or visual design can be "art," but the constructs of a game involving reaching a goal, developing character stats or amassing a high score are not emotional expressions or expressions of any kind for that matter.

But you can only make a game so open-ended as every game has set barriers so that the player knows what to do. Can gaming be art? IMO very much so. Just look at Suda-51, Kojima, Tim Schaffer, or Miyamoto; all these developers have a certain style and tone for their game. They all have the player play the game differently as well as come out with totally different experiences from them.

Oh and Gamingeek right here, I think this is the thread where people defend GTA IV as art by the dick.

The only reason those games get characterized as artistic are the unusual visual design and narratives therein.  It's not the gameplay of shooting or jumping or puzzle solving that can honestly be thought artful.

punk rebel ecks said:

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2 a strong possiblity?

Well that would be a hell of a lot better than another Kameo.

yodariquo said:

The only reason those games get characterized as artistic are the unusual visual design and narratives therein.  It's not the gameplay of shooting or jumping or puzzle solving that can honestly be thought artful.

Endless Ocean has a very loose structure, it has goals but it's ALL about the experience. The game is basically there to soak in the atmosphere, ethereal music and gorgeous visuals. When you are chilled on on the sofa at night it can be a very artistic experience. For instance the game is literally about turning that corner, having the music pique and coming across an astonishing sight and witnessing that. It sounds like you are arguing that anything interactive cannot be considered art. I disagree if that is the case.

Here is an endless ocean vid, sadly a lot of people have either turned the music off or choose their own via SD card. With the original music you can see what they are going for. I'm not saying whole game is art, but there are quite a few moments which are an artistic experience.

Blue whale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54NICtS6oKQ

Or look at the abyss footage, sadly the user has changed tracks from Benedictus to River of dreams but you can still get the vibe. If you dive at night you get this awesome moment when your flashlight eeks out over the eye of a sperm whale that just looms over you. It's awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7QqC1XUfTg

Check this out when they play through the reeds to mario galaxy music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23p9NFHNvBE

This shows a guys swimming with a killer whale, unfortunately, to Enya. What is it with people and their own music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWH5Vq9P6Cw

Finished updating for Hagane (Steel)

WTF is this, you are still talking about "art".

You fucking hippies

LAWL did anyone read this exchange between an angry wii fan and treyarch?

http://gonintendo.com/?p=52094#more-52094

Funny email, but treyarch say that the wii version of COD5 has

"DX9 shader technology, or any of the other numerous advancements with the CoD4: Modern Warfare engine which is now running on the Wii with CoD:WW. These ramifications for online play are far-reaching"

gamingeek said:

I just watched the RIZ WOAD video

http://www.gamekyo.com/video12618_riz-zoawd-first-video.html

So you basically scratch the screen to run really fast through environments like a racing game? WTF? My interest just dropped.

GG there is a Pac Man game on the DS that controls the same way. According to reviews it controls fine! I found it calledPac n' Roll. More info here

Now to show that Endless Ocean looks as good as MP3 and mario galaxy

^ Doesn't sound so bad when you look at it that way. So it's a track ball, I have to keep rolling it to move forward? Ugh.

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MIYAZAKI'S LATEST FILM IS OUT AND REVIEWED

PONYO ON THE CLIFF

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/panasia/ponyo_on_the_cliff.html

"A whimsical, fantastic and visually amazing film that is a pure delight for all ages."

"Enough cannot be said of the remarkable animation in this film. It is at times bizarre and outrageous but at the same time charming and curious. "

"Like Kiki's Delivery Service, Howl's Moving Castle, Princess Mononoke and My Neighbor Totoro, Ponyo on the Cliff is another Miyazaki classic that is a marvelous feast for the eyes. Like a modern day fairytale, the film tells a timeless story of friendship and love that while surely be cherished for years to come. "

Wow the story sounds cray-Z

"The story revolves around the friendship between a magical sea sprite/goldfish and the human child that she encounters during a curious outing to see the human world"

"Yet just as Sosuke and Ponyo begin to develop a bond, Ponyo is taken back by her father, Fujimoto (Tokoro Joji) who is a former human who has rejected the surface world and is now attempting to collect and develop magical elixirs taken from the sea that aid him in repairing and rejuvenating the world's oceans.
However, Ponyo's desire to become human has become so strong that Fujimoto is unable to contain her anymore, and she breaks free from her waterworld home and goes back to see Sosuke.

During her breakout, Ponyo unintentionally releases Fujimoto's cache of magical elixirs, which unleashes all sorts of magical sea creatures and causes a violent storm in the seas surrounding Sosuke's town. Desperate to resolve Ponyo's rebellion, Fujimoto calls upon the help of Ponyo's mother, a water elemental dubbed the Mother of the Sea "

edgecrusher said:

Played the first mission of Red Steel. I.E the Wii's Killzone.

Nearly everything I wrote about Killzone in relation of PS2, I could write about RS in relation to CubeWii. The controls.....what the fuck. The controls are retarded. That's the best explanation....no need for anything else. Its no wonder Heroes 2 was overrated so much, as its controls are like an oasis of beauty compared to this.

And the AI?! The AI???

Some area's look NICE, but not amazing. Most area's look like an average PS2 game. The character models are craptastic....what's with the outline around them? I'd like to be turned on by my Japanese girlfriend but I can't because she has chalk around her body which itself is a pixilated mess.

I sincerely hope Ubisoft are putting some effort into the sequel, because I like the quirky atmosphere surrounding this pile of roach dung.

gamingeek said:

Uh oh. You're going to hate red steel

And lets not even go into detail about the fucking lazy ass cutscenes.