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Why is everything extinct fucking huge? The gargantuan thread of dead animals.
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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:42:25
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It's GG's fault: 


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This is Meiolania platyceps, an extinct species of turtle that was five-feet wide and weighed half a ton. Glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks this extinct turtle looks just a tad like Bowser!

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:48:15
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So I thought I'll kickstart this with a favorite of mine. 

Carcharodon Megalodon.

C. megalodon may have been the largest and most powerful macro-predatory fish in vertebrate history. Fossil remains of C. megalodon indicate that it was the biggest shark that ever lived and possibly approached a maxima of around 20.3 metres (67 ft) in length. C. megalodon has been assigned to the order Lamniformes but its phylogeny is disputed. Scientists suggest that C. megalodon looked like a stockier version of the great white shark, Carcharodon carcharias, in life. Fossil evidence confirms that C. megalodon had a cosmopolitan distribution. C. megalodon was a super-predator,[1] and bite marks on fossil bones of its victims indicate that it preyed upon large marine animals.

Megalodon

Megalodon comparison

Megalodon tooth

Megalodon scale


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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:32:36
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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:37:11
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Yodariquo said:
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HOLY SHIT!

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:41:02
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That is a good question, why was everything prehistoric like some version of Giant World.
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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:46:15
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I'm not particularly convinced the premise of this thread is accurate.  The majority of dinosaurs weren't enormous.  We still have large animals; elephants, hippos, whales, giraffes aren't exactly dwarfed.  The modern blue whale is the largest animal ever known.  Short answer to why were there big things then that aren't around now?  Because most species go extinct.

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:48:31
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Yodariquo said:
I'm not particularly convinced the premise of this thread is accurate.

 It's Edge's fault. 


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Yodariquo said:
I'm not particularly convinced the premise of this thread is accurate.  The majority of dinosaurs weren't enormous.  We still have large animals; elephants, hippos, whales, giraffes aren't exactly dwarfed.  The modern blue whale is the largest animal ever known.  Short answer to why were there big things then that aren't around now?  Because most species go extinct.

Just the fact that there were giant reptiles that could step on us is crazy enough for me. In terms of land animals I guess Elephants are are the overall biggest, they don't come close to what was on land before. Weren't there roaches that were bigger than our heads. Maybe fiction has me all confused but there was definitely a whole lot of crazy huge stuff that has no real comparison in todays world.

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Meet Predator X. 

The fossil of a 15 metre long "sea monster" found in Arctic Norway was the biggest of its kind known to science, with dagger-like teeth in a mouth large enough to bite a small car.

The 150 million-year-old pliosaur, a fierce marine reptile, was about five metres longer than the previous pliosaur record holder found in Australia.

Palaeontologist at the Natural History Museum in Oslo Joern Hurum, led the expedition to dig up the fossil on the archipelago of Svalbard 1,300 kilometres from the North Pole.

Mr Hurum says "It's a new species and the biggest proven pliosaur".

"A small car could fit inside its mouth," he said.

"Something like a Morris Minor would fit perfectly."

Predator X

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:07:29

Chalk it all up to failed experiments in evolution.  When creatures are that large, the populations are never that big.  For instance there were probably never more than 200,000 T-Rex's ever walking the earth at one time.  That's a very small population though it is sustainable. However, populations of that size run into problems during cataclysm.  

See when the giant asteroid or whatever caused the climate change it wiped out about 90% of all the creature populations. Now when you have a population of 10 million (like the small mammels) that's a population that can endure a mass wipeout. One of 200,000 on the other hand. . . would be wiped out to an unsustainable level.  

So there you have it. Giant creatures no longer exist (outside of the ocean) because they cannot be sustained.  Nature learned from its mistake, shrunk everything down, and went about its business.

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:26:05
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Just the fact that there were giant reptiles that could step on us is crazy enough for me. In terms of land animals I guess Elephants are are the overall biggest, they don't come close to what was on land before. Weren't there roaches that were bigger than our heads. Maybe fiction has me all confused but there was definitely a whole lot of crazy huge stuff that has no real comparison in todays world.

Oh right, stuff like this

Spider Crab

Wait, my bad, that's a spider crab that you can find today in Japan.

Or the rhinoceros beetle?

Rhinoceros Beetle

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:41:03
Yes there are some crazy things still around but not in the sheer variety and size of prehistoric times (maybe in the oceans but I am talking more about land).

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Like giant ass dragonflies bigger than your head. The mosquitoes back then would probably eat you.

Or a ten foot tall bird that would peck you to death!

The

Its like something out of Resident Evil.  
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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:43:13
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Or a ten foot tall bird

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:36:47

Longest dinosaurs

The largest of the group shown in here might very well have rivaled with the blue whale. 

According to the published description, the shin bone (tibia) of Bruhathkayosaurus is 2 m (6.6 ft) long. This is 29 percent larger than the tibia of Argentinosaurus, which is only 1.55 m (5.08 ft) long. Comparing the bones in the upper forelimb gives a similar result. While the humerus of Bruhathkayosaurus is incomplete, it is extrapolated to have been 2.34 m (7.68 ft) long. This is 30 percent larger than the humerus of Argentinosaurus, which is 1.81 m (5.94 ft) long.

No total body size estimates for Bruhathkayosaurus have been published, but paleontologists and researchers have posted tentative estimates on the Internet. One early estimate by Mickey Mortimer estimated that Bruhathkayosaurus could have reached 40 m (130 ft) to 44.1 m (145 ft) in length and to have weighed from 175 to 220 tons.[3] However, Mortimer later retracted these estimates, reducing his estimated length of Bruhathkayosaurus to 28 – 34 m (90 – 110 ft), and declined to provide a new weight estimate, describing the older mass estimates as inaccurate.[4][5] In a May 2008 article for the Weblog Sauropod Vertebra Picture of the Week, paleontologist Matt Wedel used a comparison with Argentinosaurus and calculated the weight of Bruhathkayosaurus at up to 139 tons.[6]

By comparison, the titanosaur Argentinosaurus is estimated to have reached 34.6 m (114 ft) in length, and to have weighed from 80 to 100 tons. Another huge titanosaurid, Paralititan, was probably 31.9 m (105 ft) long, and weighed 65 to 80 tons.[7] All of these sauropods are known only from partial or fragmentary remains, so the size estimates are uncertain. Length is calculated by comparing existing bones to the bones of similar dinosaurs, which are known from more complete skeletons and scaling them up isometrically. However, such extrapolation can never be more than an educated guess and the length of the tail, in particular, is often hard to judge. Determining mass is even more difficult, because little evidence of soft tissues survives in the fossil record. In addition, isometric scaling is based on the assumption that body proportions remain the same, which is not necessarily the case. In particular, the proportions of the titanosaurs are not well known, due to a limited number of relatively complete specimens.

If the size estimates for Bruhathkayosaurus are accurate, the only other animal approaching its size would be the Blue Whale. Mature Blue Whales can exceed 33 m (110 ft) in length, which is a little shorter than Bruhathkayosaurus, but the record-holder Blue Whale weighed in at 176 tons,[8] which is probably heavier than Bruhathkayosaurus.

Among the dinosaurs, only another poorly known specimen may approach or exceed Bruhathkayosaurus in size. Edward Drinker Cope's Amphicoelias fragillimus would have been longer, reaching 56 to 62 m (185 to 200 ft) in length, but it was a slender diplodocid, weighing only 120 tons. Unfortunately, the only bone recovered (a massive vertebra) is now missing, and only a description and drawing of the specimen remain.[9]

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:47:28
Steel, you're jinxing your balls.

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:59:26

My penis is not extinct and it's fucking huge.

That's right, I defy evolution.

Why do I get the sudden urge to post that story of the Mexicans who stole a massive animatronic T-Rex?

This thread has heightened my suspicion of Steel *strokes chin beard*

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:50:05

Today's large dead animal is brought by Steel. 

If you're naked and horny, you're probably Steel. 

Paraceratherium. 

Adult Paraceratherium are estimated to have been 5.5 metres (18 ft) tall at the shoulder, 12 metres (39 ft) in length with the tail, a maximum raised head height of about 8 metres (26 ft), and a skull length of 1.5 metres (4.9 ft). Weight estimates vary greatly, but most realistic and reliable weight estimates are about 20 (metric) tons.[citation needed] This puts it in the weight range of some medium-sized sauropod dinosaurs.

It was a herbivore that stripped leaves from trees with its down-pointing, tusk-like upper teeth that occluded forward-pointing lower teeth. It had a long, low, hornless skull and vaulted frontal and nasal bones. Its front teeth were reduced to a single pair of incisors in either jaw, but they were conical and so large that they looked like small tusks. The upper incisors pointed straight downwards, while the lower ones jutted outwards. The upper lip was evidently extremely mobile. The neck was very long, the trunk robust, and the limbs long and thick, column-like.

Its type of dentition, its mobile upper lip and its long legs and neck indicate that it was a browser that lived on the leaves and twigs of trees and large shrubs.

Paraceratherium

Indricotherium

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Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:26:03

If humans had been alive at the time of the dinos, how do you think we would have fared? I mean, say they had the same intelligence as your average man (not your weapon making scientist)

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Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:15:56

gamingeek said:

If humans had been alive at the time of the dinos, how do you think we would have fared? I mean, say they had the same intelligence as your average man (not your weapon making scientist)

Not well.

robio said:

Chalk it all up to failed experiments in evolution.  When creatures are that large, the populations are never that big.  For instance there were probably never more than 200,000 T-Rex's ever walking the earth at one time.  That's a very small population though it is sustainable. However, populations of that size run into problems during cataclysm.  

See when the giant asteroid or whatever caused the climate change it wiped out about 90% of all the creature populations. Now when you have a population of 10 million (like the small mammels) that's a population that can endure a mass wipeout. One of 200,000 on the other hand. . . would be wiped out to an unsustainable level.  

So there you have it. Giant creatures no longer exist (outside of the ocean) because they cannot be sustained.  Nature learned from its mistake, shrunk everything down, and went about its business.

This was a great idea for a thread there Steel, & thanks for quoting me in the title, hahaha. I agree with what Robio said about why things happened the way they did, though I also wonder if it had something to do with how young the planet was back then, and the insane amounts of energy that were pulsing through this planet that had zero problems of having its resources stripped from humans. Just beautiful nature, everywhere.

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Dvader said:
Or a ten foot tall bird

Ostrich not happy

Its a Chocobo!!!

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Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:26:03
The giant creatures are the reason why we have oil, right?
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