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Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:46:16

phantom_leo said:
What's a Skype?

Leo do you have skype?  

if any of you have skype we are conferencing now.

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Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:47:16

phantom_leo said:
What's a Skype?

People often go on what is called a "Skype Hunt," but it's just a mean trick.

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Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:55:49

aspro said:

phantom_leo said:
What's a Skype?

Leo do you have skype?  

if any of you have skype we are conferencing now.

Ummm... Now I do. What do I do with it?

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Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:57:27

phantom_leo said:

aspro said:

phantom_leo said:
What's a Skype?

Leo do you have skype?  

if any of you have skype we are conferencing now.

Ummm... Now I do. What do I do with it?

make a user name and post it so we can add you.

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:05:36
So..what did you talk about? I just came back from a grueling 10 hour road trip.
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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:09:02

^Ugh! That trip to the fridge must be getting old.

We talked mostly about banning you.  I think dvader is going to summarize it.

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:10:31

aspro said:

^Ugh! That trip to the fridge must be getting old.

We talked mostly about banning you.  I think dvader is going to summarize it.

Oh.


Ok. I'll take my leave then. I know when I'm not wanted.

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:17:45

SteelAttack said:

aspro said:

^Ugh! That trip to the fridge must be getting old.

We talked mostly about banning you.  I think dvader is going to summarize it.

Oh.


Ok. I'll take my leave then. I know when I'm not wanted.

C 'mon, you know I'm kidding. If you get on skype I'm sure any of the participants can cut and past it for you. Or you can wait for Vaders summation. 

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:18:37
Lol.
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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:20:58

SteelAttack said:
Lol.

If you pm me your skype name I'll give it to you, but be warned, it's 2 hours long.  It's good stuff though. 

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:35:06

Okay steel, get on skype. (I found you).

EDIT: Okay I'm going offline for the day, so I'll give it to you tomorrow if you are on skype.

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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:55:15
What happened to my message?
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Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:42:22

SteelAttack said:
What happened to my message?

Leo deleted it for obvious reasons.

(No ass.)

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Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:28:55

Hey Vader, where you going to summarize the skype conference? I'm sorry if I misunderstood.  If not, let me know and I'll do so gladly.


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What happened to my message?

I deleted it so your Skype ID would not be out there on the internet for anyone to troll. 

Edited: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:29:50

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Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:38:25
Sunday 03 January 2010
[16:46:58] Dvader: Are you on?
[16:47:18] Yodariquo: yup, I'm here
[16:47:44] Dvader: I guess a whole crew is getting on
[16:49:19] Yodariquo: or that's the idea.  It's a bit weird that it's this sudden, but that's fine with me
[16:50:29] Dvader: true, to be honest I just saw meeting and I got on, so what are we doing?
[16:50:29] Dvader: brb
[16:54:37] Dvader: im back
[16:55:36] * Dvader invited Iga_Bobovic bugsonglass aspro
[16:55:40] Dvader: ok
[16:55:49] Yodariquo: that works
[16:56:04] Dvader: is this the fastest thing we have ever done
[16:56:24] bugsonglass: hello
[16:56:30] Dvader: sup
[16:56:35] aspro: hey all
[16:56:44] bugsonglass: this was pretty imprompto
[16:57:00] aspro: you guys need better avatars
[16:57:04] Dvader: with all the different time zones we are in, its good we just got in
[16:57:04] Dvader: yes i do
[16:57:50] aspro: I'll hang around until more join, we defiantely have bobby, steel was around, is he on skype?
[16:58:10] Dvader: steel has skype, just not on now
[16:58:36] Yodariquo: though he doesn't just hop on sometimes; I've only seen him online for podcasts, so you'd have to tell him to come online
[16:58:48] aspro: how about I post a news story to it tweets everyone?
[16:59:00] Dvader: fedor sucks
[16:59:15] Yodariquo: hahaha, like a can-opener to a cat
[16:59:21] Dvader: iga is not on
[16:59:36] bugsonglass: he is online on my account
[16:59:42] bugsonglass: maybe still on the bog
[16:59:47] Dvader: well he is on, but not at the computer
[16:59:54] Dvader: ah that is right
[17:01:52] aspro: Pachters GOTY
[17:01:52] aspro: You see that story?
[17:01:56] Dvader: Batman, yep
[17:02:08] aspro: Where are the DRUGS?!
[17:02:08] Dvader: lol
[17:02:23] Yodariquo: so Batman, I assume then, didn't have much content
[17:02:28] Dvader: I didn't even know Pachter played games
[17:02:35] aspro: It had the appropriate amount of value
[17:03:00] Dvader: it also turned a previous unsuccessful license to a profitable one
[17:03:11] Dvader: therefore it is GOTY
[17:03:51] aspro: He plays mind games
[17:04:02] aspro: Have any of you played Rocksteady's other game?
[17:04:13] Yodariquo: not to my knowledge
[17:04:13] aspro: Urban Chaos: Riot Response
[17:04:13] Dvader: what did they make
[17:04:16] aspro: XB game
[17:04:21] Dvader: nope
[17:04:21] aspro: It was really good.
[17:04:21] bugsonglass: nah
[17:04:30] Dvader: i heard it was good
[17:04:39] Dvader: it has the worst title ever
[17:04:44] aspro: FPS, had a shield mechanic where you could just beat people with that melee style
[17:04:56] aspro: It was a sequel to a DC game.
[17:05:13] Dvader: the title alone made it seem like som low budget crap game
[17:05:19] aspro: And your'e right David Fedor does suck
[17:05:20] bugsonglass: aspro you are a deadringer for the irish guy in Oz (forgot his name)
[17:05:36] aspro: Well, I am in Oz
[17:05:49] bugsonglass: the hbo prison soap
[17:06:14] Yodariquo: yeah, Level 3 showed their retro review of Urban Chaos for their Christmas (or New Years?) special.  The other Jamie loved it
[17:06:51] Dvader: what site is it that homer is on, I have never check it out
[17:07:12] Iga_Bobovic: God has arrived
[17:07:18] Dvader: all hail
[17:07:18] Iga_Bobovic: What is this Fedor suck crap
[17:07:21] Dvader: lol
[17:07:25] bugsonglass: lol
[17:07:35] Yodariquo: http://level3.org.au is the Level3 site.  Homer also does reviews for http://aussie-nintendo.com
[17:07:36] aspro: Just baiting you
[17:07:36] Dvader: it was our version of the batsignal
[17:07:40] Iga_Bobovic: Repent or I will send you to Miami
[17:07:48] Dvader: thank you yoda
[17:07:58] aspro: hamster is on VGpress. is he on anyone's skype?
[17:08:06] Yodariquo: yeah, he was on one podcast
[17:08:24] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah he's not online
[17:08:32] aspro: (I'm of irish ancestry Bugsy)
[17:08:56] Yodariquo: *will be watching Canada vs Switzerland on tsn.ca while on here*
[17:09:21] Dvader: *will be mourning the loss of our season while on here*
[17:09:42] aspro: We'd obviosuly prefer more people, like Steel or the Geek, but I think we'll have a large enough group to get started if we can get hamster on.
[17:09:43] Iga_Bobovic: While be laughing at Thiago Silva's showboating
[17:10:01] Yodariquo: yeah, we're pushing it already
[17:10:08] Iga_Bobovic: Are we going to use text chat?
[17:10:08] Dvader: nice site Homer has there, so they do video reviews and a podcast
[17:10:24] Dvader: oh and a show
[17:10:45] aspro: english robot is still better than him
[17:10:54] Yodariquo: you don't pay much attention, do you?
[17:10:54] Dvader: no
[17:10:58] Yodariquo: haha
[17:10:58] aspro: with or without a show
[17:11:11] Dvader: I know he did something on another site, thought it was just a podcast
[17:11:43] Yodariquo: he posted a link when he did a review for The Beatles Rock Band on the TV show
[17:11:43] aspro: Yeah Homer is like the Jeff Gerstmann of Australia.
[17:11:43] aspro: he's kind of a big deal
[17:11:48] Dvader: omg
[17:11:57] Yodariquo: lmao
[17:12:03] aspro: He could cruch you like a grape
[17:12:03] Dvader: lol
[17:12:21] Iga_Bobovic: So your saying Homer is fat
[17:12:26] Dvader: so when foolz talks to him to him he is talking to a celebrity
[17:12:26] aspro: And he takes money hats
[17:12:49] aspro: That's why foolz sounds so nervous all the time
[17:12:50] Dvader: lol
[17:13:02] bugsonglass: aspro  http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/08/f4/m3554f34f0000_1_25779.jpg
[17:13:13] Iga_Bobovic: And he still has no Wii, really he is a gaming journalist
[17:13:32] Dvader: lol, he looks like a 24 villain in that pic
[17:13:53] aspro: ^That's how I look hung over ofter throwing up for 4 hours.
[17:13:59] Dvader: what the hell is aussie nintendo
[17:14:05] Dvader: and why is he on it
[17:14:05] Yodariquo: take a guess lol
[17:14:15] Dvader: money
[17:14:20] Yodariquo: GOOOOAL!
[17:14:20] aspro: chicks
[17:14:20] Dvader: that too
[17:14:32] Dvader: Nyaa
[17:14:33] Dvader: old chicks specifically
[17:14:37] aspro: Women flock to VG journos
[17:14:49] Dvader: of course, they are rock stars
[17:15:04] aspro: Okay guys, so the ahmster is not here -- you want to start?
[17:15:04] Dvader: sure
[17:15:29] Yodariquo: ready here
[17:15:36] aspro: roll call
[17:15:52] aspro: crickets
[17:15:57] Dvader: i'm here
[17:16:05] Iga_Bobovic: I am ready
[17:16:06] Dvader: its cold, its like 68 degrees F
[17:16:25] Iga_Bobovic: Fuck you
[17:16:25] Yodariquo: you bastard
[17:16:25] Dvader: lol
[17:16:44] Dvader: honesty my feet are cold.
[17:16:53] Yodariquo: Current Weather Updated: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 17:00 EST - Windsor Airport

-6

°C
°C
°F

Partly cloudy
Feels Like: -13
Wind: NW 24km/h
Wind gusts: 35km/h
Sunrise: 8:00
Sunset: 17:12
[17:17:04] Dvader: -13 holy crap
[17:17:04] aspro: Lame
[17:17:17] aspro: Southern Hemisphere FTW
[17:17:20] Iga_Bobovic: -13
[17:17:26] Iga_Bobovic: I felt that once
[17:17:30] Iga_Bobovic: My face froze
[17:17:35] Dvader: when fedor looked at you
[17:17:55] Iga_Bobovic: Fedor never looks at people, he always stares at ground
[17:18:06] Dvader: true
[17:18:22] Iga_Bobovic: They did say the have to do a stare down
[17:18:22] bugsonglass: *twiddles thumbs*
[17:18:34] Yodariquo: Canada is the Fedor of hockey
[17:18:34] aspro: Okay let's get going, we really only have a few points to hit
[17:18:43] Iga_Bobovic: No it;s not
[17:19:03] Iga_Bobovic: Okay, Commision of 4 let's go
[17:19:21] Dvader: DAMMIT I pick a random video to watch of that show and they are reviewing FIFA 10, I cant get away from this game
[17:19:30] Yodariquo: hahaha
[17:19:42] aspro: let's hit an easy one first - moderation.
[17:19:51] bugsonglass: this better count as a podcast
[17:20:05] Dvader: at the size we are now how much moderation do we really need, if any
[17:20:12] aspro: I agree
[17:20:23] Yodariquo: it's primarily clean-up
[17:20:37] aspro: Yoda unlocked mod tools to everyone over 37,000, I think that should be raised to 150,000
[17:20:47] Dvader: which can be handled through PMs and stuff
[17:20:57] Iga_Bobovic: yeah, we might think about it for the future, but right now it is not
[17:20:58] bugsonglass: fair enough
[17:21:13] Yodariquo: I'll be adding a quick module to add moving and deleting threads (I do it directly in the database thusfar) so assume those as functional for this discussion
[17:21:14] Dvader: ok for the future I agree we need a plan in place
[17:21:29] aspro: So what about any user over 150,000
[17:21:37] aspro: that would mean that they had been active for over 2 years
[17:21:45] aspro: so we would be able to trust their judgemernt
[17:21:49] aspro: and it's scalable
[17:22:19] Yodariquo: this part would be manual, though, just for the technical sake of not having to run a timed script or check the parameters with every check
[17:22:19] aspro: The more users we'd have the more mods we'd have over 150
[17:22:35] Yodariquo: so if we do 150,000 now, if someone passes it, it wouldn't be automatic
[17:22:54] aspro: Understood, but for now that would be a very infrequent thing.
[17:23:08] aspro: Iga? David?
[17:23:25] Dvader: where are these numbers coming from
[17:23:32] aspro: Just a starting point
[17:23:44] Dvader: I mean what is 150k what
[17:23:44] Iga_Bobovic: what the hell did I just witness?
[17:23:53] Iga_Bobovic: Speak English
[17:23:53] Yodariquo: Points.  Your site score used for rankings
[17:23:53] aspro: could be higher or lower. Who is above 150K in rank?
[17:24:06] Dvader: oh ok
[17:24:06] Yodariquo: I'm the last one above 150k, Foolz is the first blow
[17:24:14] Yodariquo: *below
[17:24:31] Dvader: I never check the score section, didnt know the numbers were that high
[17:24:36] Iga_Bobovic: So people over a certain trashhold are mods?
[17:24:42] Yodariquo: GG is nearly 900k
[17:24:42] aspro: That's a suggestion.
[17:24:46] Dvader: sounds good
[17:25:04] aspro: They'd basically have the same tools we all now have had for the last 360-40 hours
[17:25:12] Dvader: i like it
[17:25:18] aspro: bobby?
[17:25:31] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah, explain it to me again
[17:25:44] Iga_Bobovic: We are getting mods for above 150k
[17:25:45] bugsonglass: yeah, it's good.  just with a much higher threshold than it's been these last few days
[17:26:00] Yodariquo: note that I need to fix the review deletions.  I removed that functionality to allow wider use, because that permanently deletes instead of flags.  So right now, no mods can delete reviews (you can only delete your own)
[17:26:10] aspro: Okay, so if a user has more than 150,000 pints on the site, that means they have been anactive member of the site for at least 2 years. (We can trust them).
[17:26:20] aspro: Those members would be able to lock threads, give guidance etc...
[17:26:38] aspro: Thsi provides a non-subjective selection for mods.
[17:26:59] Dvader: that is good. now we have mods... what rules do we enforce?
[17:26:59] aspro: And is scalable.
[17:27:08] aspro: Well, we don;t have Bobby's input yet
[17:27:08] Iga_Bobovic: Okay and we can always move the levels up, and asses would be banned before they reach that
[17:27:17] Dvader: yes
[17:27:17] aspro: Correct
[17:27:35] Yodariquo: haha, "You're almost at 150k? Banned" Nyaa
[17:27:40] aspro: lol
[17:27:40] Iga_Bobovic: Okay, but can you decline if you are of higher level
[17:27:55] aspro: I'd go for that Iga
[17:28:01] Yodariquo: no, that I disagree
[17:28:06] aspro: Bugsy -- how does that sound?
[17:28:16] Yodariquo: that's how we got to this point in the first place.  Nobody wanted mod powers at all
[17:28:21] aspro: Yoda is right
[17:28:34] bugsonglass: about it being compulsory for anyone over the threshold or being able to wave?
[17:28:36] aspro: if you have been around that long it is your responsibility to be a part of the team'
[17:28:40] Iga_Bobovic: Some people find the delete button scary
[17:28:43] Dvader: I think some of us dont want to see all those options, that would kind of be forcing it on people
[17:28:59] aspro: Wouldn
[17:29:03] aspro: Sorry.
[17:29:10] Yodariquo: that being the case, we can use a different criteria
[17:29:33] Yodariquo: the top say, 5 users as an example.  If someone declines, it passes down to the next
[17:29:39] Dvader: Ok
[17:29:54] aspro: How about same criteria, but the ability to not display the tools all the time -- kind of like the Show Tools on the GGWeekly
[17:30:08] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah that would work
[17:30:12] aspro: which?
[17:30:13] Dvader: yup
[17:30:24] Dvader: hide tools
[17:30:35] Yodariquo: that would be easy to refine
[17:30:50] aspro: bobby? bugs?
[17:31:09] Iga_Bobovic: yeah, that way you can easily browsew, see something stupid then press the button
[17:31:15] Iga_Bobovic: I agree
[17:31:30] aspro: holy shit. then I think we have our first agreement.
[17:31:37] bugsonglass: would we havef ive people to accept mod responsibilities?
[17:31:58] Iga_Bobovic: What?
[17:32:21] Yodariquo: clarification, then, if it were just a visual toggle, you mentioned the delete button?  The only mod tool on the forum topic pages is that button, you'd want the ability to hide that one button?
[17:32:58] aspro: We can figure that out later (the technicalities) I think we just have to hammer out the in-principle concepts.
[17:33:08] Yodariquo: sure
[17:33:08] Iga_Bobovic: Just make all of it invisible, then press button to see all
[17:33:19] bugsonglass: ok
[17:33:33] Iga_Bobovic: So what have we so far?
[17:33:57] aspro: users over 150,000 have mod tools. We will have the ability to hide and show tolls to those users.
[17:34:02] aspro: *tools
[17:34:33] Iga_Bobovic: okay we can talk about the technical side later
[17:34:45] Iga_Bobovic: One point done, what's next
[17:34:51] Dvader: what do we mod?
[17:34:52] aspro: David, you wanted to talk abuot the actual rules I think
[17:35:13] aspro: The current rules are no-porn and post in the correct forums
[17:35:18] aspro: as I understand them
[17:35:19] Dvader: obviously
[17:35:54] Iga_Bobovic: so modding would be deleting porn after saving on your own hard disk and moving thread titles
[17:35:54] Yodariquo: historically it's no porn, subjective "don't be a dick" rules.  I wouldn't really call posting to Gaming vs Non-Gaming rules, but you should relocate threads in the wrong place
[17:36:04] Iga_Bobovic: Plus merging threads would be helpful
[17:36:21] Dvader: true
[17:36:37] aspro: okay, before we get to the 800 pound gorilla, do we all agree on these things?
[17:36:45] Dvader: yes
[17:36:45] bugsonglass: aye
[17:36:59] aspro: I do
[17:36:59] Iga_Bobovic: ne, which is yes in greek
[17:37:18] Yodariquo: at your own judgment ban spambots if we ever get any, that should be easy enough not to be confused on
[17:37:24] aspro: true
[17:37:37] Dvader: yep
[17:37:37] aspro: though you guys should check out this c!alis site
[17:37:42] Yodariquo: fortunately the AJAX seems to get rid of that.  Anyway, anything else specific?
[17:37:51] aspro: list threads
[17:37:51] aspro: cough
[17:38:04] aspro: cough
[17:38:05] aspro: and blog vs. thread
[17:38:31] Iga_Bobovic: merging tools would be helpful for that. Merging all there list in a single thread would really solve this problem
[17:38:45] Yodariquo: my side is that it should be trivial to convert a blog-type post to a forum-type post.  Here's my ____ versus What are _____
[17:39:01] Yodariquo: Merging would be a bit bizarre
[17:39:24] Yodariquo: if you take it time by time, you'll get completely unrelated posts intermixed, including the initial topic post
[17:39:30] aspro: I think if steel where he he would say two things:
[17:39:37] aspro: and
[17:39:38] aspro: - do we want to be that formal?
[17:39:43] Dvader: penis
[17:39:52] Iga_Bobovic: ballz
[17:39:53] aspro: - we have a small group of users, let them post what they want
[17:39:57] aspro: balls balls balls
[17:40:02] Dvader: right
[17:40:16] Iga_Bobovic: And they shall post, we just move it to the correct place.
[17:40:25] Yodariquo: having general guides is very different than chaining you to the wall.
[17:40:39] Iga_Bobovic: Or we could edit it, to allow more discussion
[17:40:44] Dvader: well then we need those general rules in place
[17:40:49] aspro: Correct.
[17:41:04] Iga_Bobovic: Rule 1: Iga is your God
[17:41:24] aspro: I've been a mod at GS, as has David and Steel.  We're pretty familiar with what is and is not reasonable about their rules.
[17:41:41] Yodariquo: I don't think we should call these rules
[17:41:49] Dvader: I know their rules, I don't know that we had rules
[17:41:49] Yodariquo: because it's not if you do this, you will be punished
[17:42:00] aspro: Agreed.
[17:42:28] Dvader: ok, a system to keep thevgpress a nice well organized clean site
[17:42:33] Iga_Bobovic: How about no trolling and personal attacks, unless they are funny
[17:42:42] aspro: Fuck you bobby
[17:42:46] Dvader: that is basis of our site
[17:43:00] Iga_Bobovic: I said unless they are funny
[17:43:05] aspro: doh!
[17:43:15] Yodariquo: yes, again, the only thing that should be deleted is porn and spam.  The rest is organization and consequently judgment calls.
[17:43:36] aspro: And we'll trust the judgement of the over 150,000 group
[17:43:36] Dvader: so lets approach it from the organization angel.
[17:43:40] Dvader: angle
[17:44:17] Yodariquo: now to take from aspro and I discussed earlier, part of the problem is people simply not wanting to use the blogs.  Anyone's take on the downside to the blogs?
[17:44:35] Iga_Bobovic: I was thinking about the blogs.
[17:44:41] Dvader: sure, I think it provides the best place to reply to one another
[17:44:50] aspro: Add a blog button to the menu that lists all the latest blogs.
[17:44:51] Dvader: I mean I think it does not provide
[17:44:59] aspro: and add forum tools
[17:45:13] Yodariquo: I just now thought of two possibilities
[17:45:28] Iga_Bobovic: I wanted to make a thread about it.
[17:46:19] Yodariquo: 1. Add an automatical "forum thread" that is locked and updates with any new blog posts.

2. A forum board (like Gaming vs Non-Gaming) that includes feeds to each user's different blog posts
[17:46:34] aspro: Sounds good
[17:46:43] Yodariquo: and you should make a thread on it, but let's go over it here as well
[17:46:43] Dvader: I like 2
[17:46:47] aspro: 2
[17:47:10] aspro: Leo wants to know what skype is
[17:47:11] Dvader: lol
[17:47:15] Iga_Bobovic: What about giving options like quoting and stuff.
[17:47:49] Yodariquo: ok, so you get an idea to make sure we're on the same page.  The forum would essentially be entirely of locked threads, which each topic  titled,

"Aspro's blogs"
"Dvader's blogs"
etc.

With each post being a new blog to the next
[17:48:19] Dvader: oh, I wanted the ability to have our blogs appear in forum form
[17:48:25] aspro: What David said
[17:49:17] Iga_Bobovic: How about having all the bogs titles in a seperate forum shape and if someone comments on it, it moves up like normal forum.
[17:49:17] Yodariquo: well, if we leave the current blog system identical and add that, that would still work (again I was just thinking of this now, so I'm a little scattered)
[17:49:44] Dvader: no problem, that sounds good
[17:49:57] aspro: That would make moving threads easier for mods too.
[17:50:17] Iga_Bobovic: That way it is easier to have discussions
[17:50:17] Yodariquo: it does monopolize highly commented blogs, but I suppose it's not too difficult
[17:50:38] Yodariquo: err, not too much of a problem, that is
[17:50:38] aspro: ^That's the democracy fo the web.
[17:51:02] Iga_Bobovic: Maybe we can have a longer collumn of blogs
[17:51:02] aspro: Bugsy, any thoughts on the topic in general?
[17:51:50] bugsonglass: i've always found blogs a little hard to follow regularly
[17:51:57] Dvader: now if we agree on that, then we need to be clear on what is a forum post and what is a blog post, some are obvious, some are not
[17:51:57] bugsonglass: oftentimes i forget about them
[17:52:14] bugsonglass: i liked it when they would appear on the homepage
[17:52:22] aspro: they still do homey
[17:52:34] Dvader: you do know there is a home page right? Nyaa
[17:52:53] aspro: well -- that's the big part of the problem that this will remedy
[17:53:10] Iga_Bobovic: Also if some makes a new blog or review it should appear in the latest comments
[17:53:22] aspro: And we can do the same with reviews I would imagine?
[17:53:27] aspro: since they follow the blog format?
[17:53:35] aspro: those are the other things that get missed
[17:53:44] Dvader: Sure but that one I kind of like the blog format
[17:54:06] Yodariquo: meanwhile I'm thinking of the technical nightmare of conflating the blogs and forums from the backend.

How this would simply have to happen is that you can still post a blog the same as always, and additionally it shows up in the blog forum.  Additionally, if you post a topic in the blog forum, it then blogs it like anything else.

Ugh, this screws with my reusability so much Sad
[17:54:06] Dvader: it doesnt matter either way
[17:54:42] aspro: It has to be technically approriate #1.
[17:54:42] aspro: If not, we don;t do it.
[17:54:53] Dvader: you know the technical side so in the end we need to follow your advise.
[17:54:53] Yodariquo: this is all doable, but thinking about it some more, we should scrap part 2
[17:55:01] Iga_Bobovic: maybe we should try the moving blogs in the homepage first
[17:55:10] Yodariquo: You cannot post like a normal topic, you have to blog it for it to show up
[17:55:10] Dvader: ok
[17:55:22] Yodariquo: the reason is that naturally we should do the same for reviews, where that simply wouldn't be possible
[17:55:30] Dvader: the main thing I would like is for the blogs to look like the forum, that is it
[17:55:30] Yodariquo: wait, what am I saying?
[17:55:38] Yodariquo: I can just add a button to go to the same place
[17:56:09] Yodariquo: then that's a bit of a UI-issue *shakes head*

I'll figure it out, but we've got the idea
[17:56:13] aspro: okay
[17:56:32] Yodariquo: Go ahead Iga, if you want to make that thread, you can summarize our ideas, and we can go from there with anyone else
[17:56:46] aspro: Don't stress over it, I think we all understand.
[17:56:50] Iga_Bobovic: No actually I was thinking in a different approach
[17:57:05] Iga_Bobovic: I will do it design engineering wise
[17:57:21] Yodariquo: social, software or hardware? Nyaa
[17:57:33] Iga_Bobovic: So first I will ask people what problem they have with blogs
[17:57:39] aspro: Well, in principle where do we stand on better publicizing blogs and making sure they have forum-like tools?
[17:57:46] aspro: (Or is that where we stand)?
[17:57:55] Iga_Bobovic: Then I will form requirements
[17:57:55] Iga_Bobovic: and then solutions
[17:58:39] Yodariquo: alright.  But yes, this solution works very well because it adds forum comment options and without removing the classical blog style
[17:58:48] aspro: Leo has skype. I will get his skype name
[17:59:19] Iga_Bobovic: So what do we have now?
[17:59:32] aspro: Who wants to summarize?
[17:59:52] aspro: Phantom_Leo
[18:00:06] * Dvader invited Phantom_Leo
[18:00:06] Dvader: sup leo
[18:00:22] Phantom_Leo: hey!
[18:00:22] Yodariquo: does he still have your pants?
[18:00:31] aspro: you are just in time for a sumamry
[18:00:31] Dvader: welcome to the super secret meeting
[18:00:31] aspro: summary
[18:00:44] Phantom_Leo: k...
[18:01:42] Phantom_Leo: I don't know any of your actual names... except vader... who the heck are you people?   Nyaa
[18:01:57] aspro: I'm aspro!
[18:02:03] Iga_Bobovic: God
[18:02:03] Yodariquo: -Mods over 150k, will have the option to hide mod tools
-Only real rules are no porn/spambots, but general organizational guidelines will be established
-Blogs will stay as they are, but additionally blogs will have their own forum that automatically adds a thread for each new blog
[18:02:46] bugsonglass: excellent sum up
[18:02:55] aspro: Leo, does that make sense to you?
[18:03:10] Phantom_Leo: Ummm... is it supposed to?
[18:03:23] Dvader: zurhan is yoda btw
[18:03:23] aspro: Mods over 150K means that if you have over 150,000 points on the site you have the mod toosl we all have as of 36 hours ago
[18:03:33] aspro: other wise not
[18:03:41] aspro: this ensures the mods we have are enculturated.
[18:03:42] Phantom_Leo: How do we know how many points we have?
[18:03:55] aspro: click on your rank in the forum
[18:04:07] aspro: http://thevgpress.com/leaderboard.php
[18:04:19] Yodariquo: or check your sig in change sig
[18:04:38] aspro: we don't make the cut-off yet Leo
[18:04:48] Phantom_Leo: IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:04:59] Phantom_Leo: Nyaa
[18:05:04] Iga_Bobovic: Someone had to make that joke
[18:05:11] Phantom_Leo: Thanks God!
[18:05:22] Dvader: lol
[18:05:45] Iga_Bobovic: Your welcome leo
[18:05:51] Phantom_Leo: So... so... my mod tools will be taken away til I get 150k...?
[18:05:51] Yodariquo: Are you doing that on purpose?
[18:06:10] aspro: yep
[18:06:10] Yodariquo: *referring to Iga*
[18:06:28] Phantom_Leo: but... but that means the rodent infestation will contine on the site...  ;(
[18:06:39] aspro: oh and I deleted your post with your sykpe name on.
[18:06:44] aspro: to protect you from trolls
[18:07:00] Iga_Bobovic: Iga did what?
[18:07:33] Phantom_Leo: who's that trip-trapping over my bridge?
[18:07:50] Yodariquo: ok, so anyway, anything on the mod stuff, Leo?
[18:08:07] Phantom_Leo: nope. got it! I'm powerless again.
[18:08:17] Phantom_Leo: (at least I got Vader's pants)
[18:08:24] Dvader: dammit
[18:08:32] aspro: And then we also agreed to come up with a way to better publicize blogs and make commenting on them easier.
[18:08:36] Yodariquo: GOOOOOAL! 2-0 Canada!
[18:09:12] Phantom_Leo: Right! Now we call blogs "forums!"
[18:09:12] Phantom_Leo: Got it!
[18:09:22] bugsonglass: and you dare make fun of football |-(
[18:09:30] Phantom_Leo: futbal!
[18:10:01] Yodariquo: but Canada is winning 2-0...in World Junior hockey
[18:10:20] Phantom_Leo: Oh... blech Hockey... soccer players show so much more skin...
[18:10:20] Dvader: ohhhhh
[18:10:29] Iga_Bobovic: Hockey is awesome the best part of the Winter Olympics
[18:10:34] Dvader: its ok then
[18:10:42] Yodariquo: there are other parts of the winter olympics?
[18:10:51] Yodariquo: SCORES! 3-0 Grinning
[18:10:59] Phantom_Leo: The best part if the Winter Olymics is the skin tight speed skating uniforms...
[18:11:14] Phantom_Leo: You know you really shouldn't have told me about this conference!
[18:11:14] Iga_Bobovic: You should watch Waterpolo
[18:11:18] Iga_Bobovic: Or MMA
[18:11:19] Iga_Bobovic: Or wrestling
[18:11:31] Yodariquo: now that I've successfully hijacked this, getting back on track
[18:11:37] aspro: Yeah, abck on track
[18:11:45] bugsonglass: i like bobsled
[18:11:51] Phantom_Leo: Guys rolling around on the ground legs wrapped around each other ... yada... yada...
[18:11:56] aspro: one other thing I wanted to address is that we get a better understanding of what Yoda's role on the site is.
[18:11:56] Phantom_Leo: ok back on track!
[18:12:01] Dvader: cool runnings!
[18:12:10] Iga_Bobovic: Foxus
[18:12:11] aspro: and who "owns and runs" the site
[18:12:15] Yodariquo: the blogs we plan on adding a forum that is connected to the usual blogs.  There aren't "topics" in the way as other boards (Gaming and Non-Gaming), but your blogs create a new topic there, and comments show up in full forum style
[18:12:30] Phantom_Leo: He's the little green dude that teaches Vader's son all those cool magic tricks! got it!
[18:12:39] Yodariquo: posting a blog like you do now automatically creates a new topic there
[18:12:52] Dvader: but we cant do nothing in that "forum"
[18:12:53] Dvader: ?
[18:13:11] Yodariquo: every topic is a blog, every comment is a blog comment
[18:13:22] Iga_Bobovic: You can click on it and you are in the blog and perhaps immediatly skip to the page you want
[18:13:31] aspro: What bobby said
[18:13:31] Dvader: ahh ok
[18:13:35] Dvader: sounds good
[18:13:51] Phantom_Leo: I'll have to see it... I'm much more of a visual person.
[18:13:52] Yodariquo: it's essentially displaying blogs in a different way.  Honestly, there's pretty much no difference at that point from a typical forum, except it's linked to the current blog system
[18:14:03] bugsonglass: may i ask a stupid question?
[18:14:11] Iga_Bobovic: Look at the normal thread Leo
[18:14:17] Dvader: ask bugs
[18:14:17] Yodariquo: basically just imagine if every new topic you create in General Gaming shows up as a blog post in your blog
[18:15:12] Phantom_Leo: k...
[18:15:12] bugsonglass: as i understand it, the forums will now be "Gaming discussion", "Non Gaming" and "Blogs", is that correct?
[18:15:36] Dvader: but blogs will also remain on the main page right?
[18:15:50] bugsonglass: why have a duplicate of the blogs?
[18:16:32] Iga_Bobovic: We could also ad reviews there. So Gaming Non Gaming Blogs and Reviews
[18:16:54] Yodariquo: because people seem to prefer browsing a forum, and seeing the comments in that layout.  Yes, bugs that's about correct, everything we have now will still be there, PLUS this Blog section of the forum.  That may not have the original post on every page, though
[18:17:42] Iga_Bobovic: We can keep the fron page the same
[18:18:04] Iga_Bobovic: So we have forum blogs that show the blog that is commented the last at top
[18:18:24] Iga_Bobovic: And the front page stay as it is and you can see what the latest 10 blogs are
[18:18:52] Dvader: to be clear what I want is the blogs to be in forum version.
[18:18:58] bugsonglass: I think since they will be in a more organised fashion in the forums, and since they will still be connected to the respective users account ... we can do away with them in their current form in the front page
[18:19:23] aspro: ^Won't hurt to keep them there. Less work of rYoda.
[18:19:39] Iga_Bobovic: If I comment a blog will move up
[18:19:54] Iga_Bobovic: The front page will simple show the latest blogs
[18:19:54] bugsonglass: ok, that's fine if it helps yoda from a design standpoint
[18:20:11] Dvader: right I want this to be easy for yoda
[18:20:22] Yodariquo: I doesn't help or hurt, really, because it's 2 lines of code to add/remove.  I think it's better to retain what we have, though
[18:20:28] Dvader: ok
[18:20:29] aspro: ok
[18:20:40] aspro: everyone cool with the over-aching topic?
[18:20:53] aspro: *Arching
[18:21:03] bugsonglass: also, to go back on what iga touched ... let's do reviews as a 4th forum, if it's not too much work
[18:21:04] Iga_Bobovic: just to clarify, each new blog will be a new forum title and the post will be comments, right?
[18:21:04] Yodariquo: while we may like it, it may be a bit weird to anyone new, so having a classical blog style is beneficial, and something some may want.  I know in terms of a blog that's the layout I'd want
[18:21:17] aspro: agreed yoda
[18:21:27] Dvader: agreed
[18:21:28] Phantom_Leo: Absolutely....!
[18:21:35] Dvader: I am afraid people will get confused and complain
[18:21:35] Phantom_Leo: (still have no clue!)
[18:21:48] aspro: Leo, you'll love it.
[18:21:52] Phantom_Leo: k...
[18:22:01] aspro: Or else you'll be banned
[18:22:01] Dvader: lol
[18:22:19] Phantom_Leo: :@
[18:22:27] Iga_Bobovic: Lost in the discussion
[18:22:28] Iga_Bobovic: just to clarify, each new blog will be a new forum title and the post will be comments, right?
[18:22:32] aspro: threadlocker!
[18:22:46] bugsonglass: can i give Leo 40000 of my points to give him authoritah?
[18:22:47] aspro: I won't forget it!
[18:22:52] Phantom_Leo: (chuckle)
[18:22:58] aspro: Stickypants!
[18:23:08] Phantom_Leo: (rofl)
[18:23:15] aspro: [9:22:24 AM] Iga_Bobovic: Lost in the discussion
just to clarify, each new blog will be a new forum title and the post will be comments, right?

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[18:23:31] Yodariquo: close enough
[18:23:42] Phantom_Leo: now... how do I get more points?
[18:23:48] aspro: Post reviews.
[18:23:48] Yodariquo: be active on the site
[18:23:58] Iga_Bobovic: So popular blogs will remain on the front page?
[18:24:03] aspro: Well written ones. Not that the dross Vader shurns out.
[18:24:04] Yodariquo: banning people gets you no points
[18:24:04] Phantom_Leo: ...that would mean I have to FINISH games...
[18:24:15] Phantom_Leo: ...and I AM active on the site...!
[18:24:23] Dvader: grrr
[18:24:23] Phantom_Leo: I'm there ALL the time...
[18:24:32] Dvader: post news
[18:24:36] aspro: blog
[18:24:44] Dvader: perform sexual favors for GG
[18:24:48] Phantom_Leo: DONE!
[18:24:54] aspro: GG can't get you any points
[18:25:00] Phantom_Leo: oh... wait... GG...?
[18:25:14] Phantom_Leo: he's all stopped up... that'll go nowhere!
[18:25:14] aspro: Yoda the Coder has the power
[18:25:41] Dvader: ok what else do we need to discuss
[18:25:47] aspro: Yoda's role on the site
[18:25:51] Iga_Bobovic: Okay I like what we have so far
[18:26:05] Dvader: i want to play ratchet, lets move along. Nyaa
[18:26:06] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah, Vader you always ask the following question
[18:26:30] Iga_Bobovic: What do other fansites have what we don't to be able to get review copies
[18:26:31] aspro: I thikn one of the things I've seen is that the community lets stuff slide until Yoda deals with it
[18:26:35] aspro: and that's nto fair
[18:26:43] Phantom_Leo: haven't you put like 26 hours in today already...?
[18:26:56] Dvader: we let things slide cause there are no rules
[18:27:24] Phantom_Leo: what has been so bad that's had to have been dealt with...?
[18:27:29] Phantom_Leo: kitty porn?
[18:27:29] Phantom_Leo: I'll stop...
[18:27:42] Phantom_Leo: (sweat)
[18:27:42] Dvader: Happy
[18:27:50] aspro: Yoda?
[18:27:56] Yodariquo: that was one hell of a post lol
[18:28:01] Iga_Bobovic: And Manass, shame on you Leo
[18:28:01] Dvader: which one
[18:28:34] Phantom_Leo: I'll have you know YOU'VE posted more man-ass than me! GOD!
[18:29:04] Iga_Bobovic: Lies :lP
[18:29:04] Iga_Bobovic: Nyaa
[18:29:14] Phantom_Leo: ...and the sweaty wrestling kind too...
[18:29:39] bugsonglass: 1.30 am here.  let's try to wrap up if possible |-)
[18:29:58] Phantom_Leo: That makes it official. The name of my first new-style blog will be man-ass!
[18:29:58] Yodariquo: in an administrative capacity, there have only been moving of a few topics to Non-Gaming, locked the Donkey thread for a random meaningless post by Steel after it was idle for months, Leo's topic that needed some...cleaning, and this.

In terms of actually deciding on anything, well that's a longer list
[18:30:29] Iga_Bobovic: Okay what have we left?
[18:30:51] aspro: I think that by designating some leaders in the site (150 group) the responsibilities of monitoring the site won't rest solely on Yoda any more -- that should help.
[18:31:07] Phantom_Leo: Just a phone-sex recording for ernesto by vader and we can call it a night!
[18:31:15] Dvader: Well "this" needs to be clarified and posted on the main page in a locked thread
[18:31:30] Phantom_Leo: If only we had a site improvement topic...
[18:31:34] Dvader: lol
[18:31:39] Phantom_Leo: (chuckle)
[18:31:39] Yodariquo: "this"?  Is that a euphamism?
[18:31:56] aspro: [9:29:58 AM] Yodariquo: in an administrative capacity, there have only been moving of a few topics to Non-Gaming, locked the Donkey thread for a random meaningless post by Steel after it was idle for months, Leo's topic that needed some...cleaning, and this.

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[18:32:02] Dvader: I was referring to your post, you mentioned this event which started all this
[18:32:50] Yodariquo: it was
[18:33:15] Dvader: well it need sto be resticked for a while
[18:33:22] aspro: okay, well I think we straightened that out in terms of how we'll moderate moving forward no?
[18:33:41] Dvader: yes
[18:33:42] bugsonglass: yes
[18:33:46] Iga_Bobovic: yeah, Yoda what's the name of that Doom guy?
[18:33:54] aspro: coopersville
[18:34:21] aspro: what abuot him bobby?
[18:34:22] Iga_Bobovic: yeah him, he is a great artist, do you think he would like to design our site?
[18:34:25] Iga_Bobovic: visually I mean
[18:34:37] aspro: thanks for clarifying
[18:34:53] aspro: the design of the site is fine
[18:35:01] aspro: you are talking aesthetics right?
[18:35:22] aspro: bugsy, if you need to go feel free
[18:35:23] Iga_Bobovic: yeah, not now, but in the future
[18:35:33] Iga_Bobovic: We could discuss what kind of visual design we want
[18:35:44] Iga_Bobovic: Classy, edgey whatever
[18:35:48] Yodariquo: I know him in person; thusfar he's posted as you've seen in an infrequent and casual basis.  I'm not going to impose in that way, nor on anyone else.  The best we can do there is have a volunteer, or post something asking for volunteers.  No one is going to be singled-out as "Will you make us something?"
[18:36:17] aspro: Yeah, has to be voluntary.
[18:36:17] Iga_Bobovic: And if we reach consencus we ask a designer to design something
[18:36:27] aspro: and raise the money
[18:36:49] aspro: we haev to know someone from gamspot (among the users).
[18:36:58] Dvader: iga about what I always bring up, I understand that the way we are now becoming an official site is not possible. we are still a site made by a group of friends for a group of friends. one day if we begin to grow then we should look into it. I know we can do reviews, we have a podcast, we have news, we can do editorials. The base is there.
[18:37:24] Phantom_Leo: (devil)  (chuckle)  (wasntme)
[18:37:41] aspro: Hey guys, let me clarify, we seem to be shifting this meeting to a brainstorming thing.
[18:37:42] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah, not now, just thinking of people that are schooled in such a thing. We need structure first
[18:37:55] aspro: I want to make sure we have what caused THIS tightened up.
[18:38:06] Dvader: I think we do, right?
[18:38:11] aspro: Yoda?
[18:38:28] Phantom_Leo: Already taken care of! I banned Foolz hours ago!
[18:38:35] Iga_Bobovic: Yoda, do you need support in programming or would it get in your way?
[18:38:39] bugsonglass: Grinning
[18:39:05] Yodariquo: the editorial staff never existed, and it's a beauracratic nightmare for organizing "official reviews".

In terms of doing it, it's a process of time.  Getting it done, and done frequently.  A lot, though, would weigh on communication between the editor and the writer
[18:39:05] aspro: Yoda, could someone else mix the cast for you? (just and idea).
[18:39:32] Dvader: right, this is just a thought for way in the future
[18:40:25] Yodariquo: I'll admit that right now with the site the only thing I dislike is editing the podcast, but it's not too bad.  Right now it's stupid for anyone else to do it because I have to upload it, but if someone else was willing I can do something about that (I should anyway)
[18:40:45] aspro: I think Foolz is giving this week a try.
[18:40:56] aspro: If he fails, I'm prepared to try it, then all you have to do is post it.
[18:41:00] Iga_Bobovic: Quick unban him
[18:41:03] aspro: (Or you can give me what I need to do that).
[18:41:15] aspro: lol bobby
[18:41:36] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah Yoda, you can be the chief Engineer, order your engineer Aspro around
[18:41:37] Dvader: we tried to time this weeks recording perfectly so they are in sinc, should be a bit easier to edit I guess. Oh and there is a part in the middle that needs editing out
[18:41:48] Yodariquo: On programming, no, it's best not to concern yourself with extra help.  Not that somebody else helping out wouldn't be appreciated, but it's not a priority
[18:42:10] aspro: okay, well let's just resolve to find someone to edit the cast
[18:42:30] aspro: with you starting school again that should help. and now you've admitted to not liking it
[18:42:30] Phantom_Leo: (emo)
[18:42:34] aspro: (and you do enough already)
[18:42:43] Dvader: yup
[18:42:51] aspro: we can talk in detail in the podcast thread
[18:42:52] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah that should be enough for now
[18:42:56] Dvader: yes
[18:43:03] Dvader: bugs go to sleep
[18:43:04] aspro: okay one thing b4 we break
[18:43:08] aspro: if I could...
[18:43:11] Dvader: bugs wait a minute
[18:43:15] Dvader: lol
[18:43:19] aspro: bugs wait
[18:43:23] Yodariquo: pfft, 1:40.  We start recording half our podcasts at that time Nyaa
[18:43:23] bugsonglass: (makeup)
[18:43:39] aspro: Okay, one thing that I think is very important to say is
[18:43:45] aspro: that the six of us agreed on what we said here.
[18:43:46] Dvader: I love you
[18:44:03] Dvader: oh not I love you... Nyaa
[18:44:03] Iga_Bobovic: Actually it is logical, think about it
[18:44:07] aspro: we are going to present this to the rest of the group and those who were not here will naturally feel disenfranchised
[18:44:15] Dvader: too bad
[18:44:16] Iga_Bobovic: No, not yet
[18:44:24] Phantom_Leo: hey! even I got on here!
[18:44:24] aspro: we can't budge off the principle points or we are back to where we started.
[18:44:32] Phantom_Leo: the others can go fuck themselves...!
[18:44:41] Dvader: I agree aspro
[18:44:41] Phantom_Leo: Steel probably can... at least...
[18:44:45] aspro: I just want to make sure there is no caving.
[18:44:47] Phantom_Leo: ]Happy
[18:44:58] Phantom_Leo: j/k
[18:45:03] Dvader: It needs to be writtem clearly and definitively
[18:45:03] Iga_Bobovic: No let's keep this a secret for now
[18:45:18] Phantom_Leo: ...and spell checked, if Vader writes it!
[18:45:18] Dvader: huh, why
[18:45:22] Dvader: yes please
[18:45:25] aspro: Iga you kidding right?
[18:45:33] Iga_Bobovic: Someone has to write it more clearly, but do not post it yet
[18:45:41] aspro: 'splain
[18:45:58] Phantom_Leo: The Secret Order of VG-Pressers! I like it! Very Ass Creedy!
[18:46:09] Iga_Bobovic: I am not kidding, I will make a thread asking people about their problems about blogs
[18:46:32] Phantom_Leo: God has spoken. So it is written, so it shall be done!
[18:46:32] Phantom_Leo: Next topic!
[18:46:41] Dvader: whatever
[18:46:42] Iga_Bobovic: I will try to find requirement according to users problems.
[18:47:02] aspro: What are your thoughts on publishing the 150 concept?
[18:47:10] bugsonglass: why not let yoda just do the work?
[18:47:18] Dvader: lol
[18:47:18] bugsonglass: it;s for everyone's benefit
[18:47:34] Iga_Bobovic: Wait, let me explain
[18:47:34] Iga_Bobovic: my point
[18:47:50] bugsonglass: ok
[18:47:50] aspro: ok
[18:47:54] Phantom_Leo: ok
[18:47:54] Iga_Bobovic: I need people to think in problems and not in solutions
[18:48:27] Iga_Bobovic: If we post are solutions, people will think in a certain direction and we might get the same solutions we have here.
[18:48:28] Yodariquo: I follow without needing explanation.  If we tell people what's going to happen, they we won't get what people dislike about what we have, it'll be what they dislike about what thought of
[18:48:52] Dvader: ok that makes sense
[18:48:52] Iga_Bobovic: In engineering it is normal like that
[18:49:02] aspro: But we can post the "in general" agreements. 1 or two sentences per topic.
[18:49:15] Dvader: so we make them believe that they are the ones giving input into the changes and make them feel like they contributed. Nyaa
[18:49:15] Yodariquo: I think it's fine holding off any announcements for now anyway, because I need time to get this stuff done anyway, and it's better to reduce the time between announcement and implementation
[18:49:26] aspro: You ARE ZFloridian.
[18:49:27] bugsonglass: i don't like this going behind ...
[18:49:44] bugsonglass: let's just be de Facto about it
[18:49:44] Phantom_Leo: trust me, it's fine, I do it all the time!
[18:49:48] Iga_Bobovic: No it's not going behind, they might give a solution we have not tought about yet
[18:49:52] Dvader: lol
[18:49:57] Dvader: true
[18:50:01] Iga_Bobovic: Or we can check if our solutions solve their problem
[18:50:14] aspro: Well, we can at least say we met, and made headway toward some goals.
[18:50:14] * Yodariquo invited darthhomer
[18:50:14] Dvader: homer is here
[18:50:37] Dvader: homer
[18:50:38] Yodariquo: it's not going behind.  We've got a conceptual idea that is sound, and need additional information to make sure it's well rounded.  Asking people first gives us better information regardless
[18:50:45] Iga_Bobovic: Yeah I will say we have some sulutions, but not what they are yet
[18:50:46] Dvader: I finally discovered your site, looking through it now
[18:50:46] aspro: what yoda said
[18:50:57] aspro: [9:50:39 AM] Yodariquo: We've got a conceptual idea that is sound, and need additional information to make sure it's well rounded.  Asking people first gives us better information regardless

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[18:51:07] bugsonglass: i think we should be completely transparent about what's already been discussed and decided
[18:51:12] aspro: agreed
[18:51:13] Dvader: yes
[18:51:18] darthhomer: someone fill me in, what the hell am I missing?
[18:51:24] Dvader: we decided to kill steel
[18:51:25] aspro: We agreeed to ban you
[18:51:34] bugsonglass: 8-)
[18:51:41] Dvader: where is that sum up
[18:51:42] Phantom_Leo: I decided to have sushi for dinner tonight!
[18:52:00] Iga_Bobovic: I am going to say we have solutions and why we are not saying what they are yet
[18:52:01] Yodariquo: it depends on what you mean by transparent.  I don't see the problem with asking blog feedback before proposing a solution to problems we haven't been told about.  Otherwise, yes, go ahead and post the entire Skype conversation
[18:52:01] aspro: [8:10:06 AM] Dvader: nice site Homer has there, so they do video reviews and a podcast
[8:10:22 AM] Dvader: oh and a show
[8:10:41 AM] aspro: english robot is still better than him
[18:52:13] bugsonglass: wish i was having sushi right now
[18:52:13] darthhomer: hah.
[18:52:18] aspro: [8:11:08 AM] Dvader: I know he did something on another site, thought it was just a podcast
[8:11:40 AM] aspro: Yeah Homer is like the Jeff Gerstmann of Australia.
[8:11:40 AM] Yodariquo: he posted a link when he did a review for The Beatles Rock Band on the TV show
[8:11:43 AM] aspro: he's kind of a big deal
[8:11:46 AM] Dvader: omg
[8:11:54 AM] Yodariquo: lmao
[8:11:59 AM] aspro: He could cruch you like a grape
[18:52:35] darthhomer: if it's too long, someone post in to me personally.
[18:52:41] darthhomer: *IT, bloody hell it's early.
[18:53:04] Dvader: yup
[18:53:05] aspro: Okay, well all happy?
[18:53:21] aspro: Yoda?
[18:53:28] aspro: Bye bugsy
[18:53:38] bugsonglass: see you buddy
[18:53:45] Dvader: bye bugs
[18:53:50] darthhomer: later
[18:53:51] Phantom_Leo: Nites!
[18:53:59] Iga_Bobovic: Don't worry Bugsy, I will tell our solution after we had their brainstorm
[18:54:00] bugsonglass: nite all
[18:54:08] Phantom_Leo: Can I tuck you in?
[18:54:17] bugsonglass: yes please do
[18:54:27] Phantom_Leo: (smirk)
[18:54:36] aspro: Okay gents, then if we are all in accord, I'm audi.
[18:54:48] Dvader: Ratchet here I come!
[18:54:57] darthhomer: finally.
[18:54:58] aspro: back to phantom hourglass
[18:55:02] Dvader: bleh
[18:55:05] Phantom_Leo: Well! I'm glad I helped out!
[18:55:11] Iga_Bobovic: Downloading porn as we speak
[18:55:16] Dvader: of course
[18:55:20] Iga_Bobovic: Go Sexiyama
[18:55:21] aspro: Yoda? you good to break?
[18:55:47] Iga_Bobovic: Wit
[18:55:51] Iga_Bobovic: Wait
[18:56:05] Yodariquo: sorry, kind of interrupted here
[18:56:23] Iga_Bobovic: The secret thing is just about blogs, the moderation and stuff is a done deal
[18:56:30] Iga_Bobovic: You can post that
[18:56:41] Phantom_Leo: WAIT! Can RAVEN BAN ME ? ! ?
[18:56:53] darthhomer: not if you ban him first.
[18:57:03] Phantom_Leo: Right! Brb!
[18:57:08] Dvader: ok gtg guys
[18:57:11] Dvader: see ya
[18:57:17] darthhomer: oh Vader, shadow complex is fucking rad.
[18:57:19] darthhomer: you'd really love it.
[18:57:25] aspro: it's anti gay
[18:57:25] Yodariquo: ok back, what was that?
[18:57:31] Dvader: i know I would, I loved it the second I laid eyes on it Nyaa
[18:57:51] Iga_Bobovic: Homer what is your favorite genre?
[18:57:53] Phantom_Leo: (u)
[18:57:58] aspro: Okay meeting adjourned for me.
[18:58:03] Iga_Bobovic: yes
[18:58:14] Dvader: i do not care about the themes of the game, just that I get to play a metroid clone
[18:58:27] aspro: then you'll love muramasa
[18:58:37] darthhomer: I love anything
[18:58:37] Yodariquo: I'd tell you to play Castlevania, but I'm a little late
[18:58:37] Phantom_Leo: an anit-gay metroid clone...   ;(
[18:58:43] darthhomer: and Vader, it's a great Metroid clone.
[18:59:09] Iga_Bobovic: A metroid clone is called a Mochtroid
[18:59:25] Dvader: I highly doubt the authors idioic thoughts are present in the game
[18:59:47] aspro: yeah, j/k I don;t even want to know what the dudes behind my favorite games are into
[18:59:59] Phantom_Leo: BTW... THANKS FOR KILLING THE NICE SENTIMENT WITH A WOOKIE CHRISTMAS... HOMER ! ! !   (punch)
[19:00:04] darthhomer: HAHA
[19:00:05] aspro: Remember teh baby scene from yakuza 2 david?
[19:00:13] Dvader: I have not played yakuza 2
[19:00:19] darthhomer: not a problem Leo.
[19:00:19] aspro: GASP
[19:00:23] Dvader: I know
[19:00:26] aspro: GASP
[19:00:32] Dvader: Sad
[19:00:46] aspro: 200 fucking games and one of them can't be Yakuza 2?
[19:00:51] aspro: Hand in your SEGA card.
[19:00:52] aspro: NOW!
[19:00:55] Dvader: Sad
[19:01:04] darthhomer: nah, he's more of a Sonic fan now.
[19:01:13] Dvader: no I am still sega all the way
[19:01:13] aspro: And the other one..
[19:01:14] Iga_Bobovic: He did not buy Sonic and the Black Knight either
[19:01:18] Dvader: I got Valkyria
[19:01:23] Yodariquo: F-Zero GX?
[19:01:29] Dvader: and I am playing Phantasy Star Zero
[19:01:30] aspro: When it was $12
[19:01:34] aspro: It was a gift
[19:01:39] Phantom_Leo: (inlove)
[19:01:59] aspro: I want Seaman to be in that new SEGA cart game
[19:01:59] aspro: that dude can drive
[19:02:03] Dvader: lol
[19:02:13] aspro: Leo, you prob want Seaman in everything
[19:02:26] aspro: crickets
[19:02:26] Dvader: lol
[19:02:46] Phantom_Leo: (mm) seman...
[19:02:58] Iga_Bobovic: c-man
[19:03:37] Phantom_Leo: alrighty then!
[19:03:41] Dvader: yup
[19:03:51] Dvader: ok guys see ya later
[19:03:51] Iga_Bobovic: Buy LKS
[19:04:01] Dvader: when it is really cheap
[19:04:05] Phantom_Leo: I posted a new blog for you god!
[19:04:06] Iga_Bobovic: it is
[19:04:10] aspro: It better be good Bobby.
[19:04:15] darthhomer: later
[19:04:19] Dvader: no, hobo cheap
[19:04:19] Iga_Bobovic: You better have good taste
[19:04:23] aspro: late guys
[19:04:28] Dvader: bye
[19:04:28] Iga_Bobovic: later
[19:04:28] aspro: Well duh.
[19:04:37] darthhomer: later
[19:04:42] Dvader: bye
[19:04:51] Phantom_Leo: toodles!
[19:04:58] Yodariquo: aloha
[19:06:16] darthhomer: hah..sorry, re-reading the stuff about me...the Aussie Gerstmann huh?
[19:06:29] darthhomer: man that's so far from the truth it's hilarious.
[19:13:20] Phantom_Leo: just checkin' to see if this skype thingee saved all my contacts!
[19:13:41] Phantom_Leo: nonono... You'd have to gain at least 100 pounds...!
[19:13:51] darthhomer: Leo, you has a microphone?
[19:13:59] Phantom_Leo: or kilos... or whatever you aussie guys use...
[19:14:07] darthhomer: we uses Kilos.
[19:14:12] darthhomer: *USE. Bloody hell.
[19:14:13] Phantom_Leo: dunno... I think so...
[19:14:28] Phantom_Leo: is it part of a mac book?
[19:14:28] darthhomer: see if you do - we'd love to have you on the show.
[19:14:33] Iga_Bobovic: Everyone uses kilos except, USA, Liberia and Bangladesh
[19:14:36] darthhomer: you have a Macbook?
[19:14:43] Phantom_Leo: yup
[19:14:43] darthhomer: should be one on there.
[19:14:53] darthhomer: tell you what, gimme a call, I'll help out.
[19:15:06] Phantom_Leo: I can use this skype thing to be on a podcast?
[19:15:06] darthhomer: yeah
[19:15:11] Phantom_Leo: uh-oh!
[19:15:15] darthhomer: just gimme a call first, I'll take a look.
[19:15:22] darthhomer: yes, Ernesto can be on as well.
[19:15:27] Phantom_Leo: yay!
[19:15:54] Phantom_Leo: I'll have to call you later! Cab's here for my sushi!
[19:15:54] Phantom_Leo: nites!
[19:15:59] darthhomer: fair enough
[19:15:59] darthhomer: later
[19:18:28] darthhomer: laters yo.

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Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:37:36
After reading all of that I feel very disenfranchised. Sad

Homer is the Gerstmann of Australia? That's just harsh. Nyaa

I have one question about blogs and bumping, (might've been covered, btu Ih ad to try and read quickly due to the length! Nyaa) so there's going to be a blog page as well as the forum? In the blog page will they stay in chronological order rather than popular order?

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Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:48:07
Foolz said:
so there's going to be a blog page as well as the forum? In the blog page will they stay in chronological order rather than popular order?  

Take what we have, keep it the same.

Add a forum page with blogs on it that works the same as any other forum.

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Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:53:06

Yodariquo said:
Foolz said:
so there's going to be a blog page as well as the forum? In the blog page will they stay in chronological order rather than popular order?

Take what we have, keep it the same.

Add a forum page with blogs on it that works the same as any other forum.

Okay, gotcha.

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Foolz said:
After reading all of that I feel very disenfranchised. Sad

lol 

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