Foolz said:

Okay, sounds pretty cool. Don't want to play through the shit to get to the good part, though.

It's unbalanced, no way around it. Takes way too long to get good. I'm still going through it and I have three more episodes to come up with a final opinion.

Can someone else please fucking  play this. I need to bounce around opinions with people I know. I am on biohaze and GAF surrounded by RE fans who claim this is the best RE game in years and I am left scratching my head wondering if I am a crazy person. Now I know you guys will take this to the extreme, I am negative there for it is the worst game ever, no it's really good, it maybe great when it is all done but it's not at the level of the main RE games. This is a long post detailing my thoughts on the game so far:

Here is where I am at with this game, it's interesting and good but falls short in so many areas that clearly could have been helped with a larger budget. This is the worst handling RE in years, I don't mean the controls themselves I mean how the action feels. Even REv1 with its terrible enemies at least felt like RE4/5, this feels like a cheap shooter. The action is clearly mowhere near as good as any of the action RE games but the changing in gameplay situations really helps this game stay interesting.



I loved Barry's episode 2 simply cause of how inventive the enemies and situations were. Plus the boss battle with the chainsaw guy was classic RE4 level battle with a clearly defined strategy you can use, very well done. If the game can come up with scenarios like that consistently it could be really great. But to me segments in Claire's episode like the bar assault just reminds me how much better this was done in all the other newer RE games.



The bland environments are not helping much either, everything is brown, I can't tell one location from another usually. The graphics are terrible, the village area looked like something out of a generic dreamcast horror game. Also I don't like how the back to back episodes have you kind of replaying the same areas in reverse. The first revelations at least had a unique location that had personality, that was a fully explorable map, with locked doors and keys. To me that game handled the game world so much better, also it was incredible for a 3DS game graphically. It felt like it fit into the main RE games, this feels like a side game.

I see massive praise for the story, believe me when Alex Wesker was shown I went nuts, but that just tells me one thing, Wesker is by far and away the best thing about RE and getting rid of him was idiotic. The story in Rev2 till that reveal was terrible, what the hell was with Claire's cast of rejects, horrible characters I wanted all dead. Nothing at all has happens in the story until the last minute of this episode. But one mention of wesker and "'holy shit best RE story since ever!!!!!!!"



Revelations 2 is a collection of interesting ideas that is kind of disjointed. The release of the game is disjointed, I feel like finishing the episode is just the start so then you can access all the other modes. Timed mode, invisible mode all brilliant. There is so much to do in this game, I feel that stuff is far better than the campaign proper.



Then there is raid mode which too me is kind of a disappointment. What made raid mode in Rev 1 so special was that you played through the entire game but the game was now remixed into this wild loot game gauntlet. Levels still had you explore the boat, they were not arenas, it felt like a campaign. Raid 2 is more like that bad mercenaries 3DS game. Instead of playing through the game or having levels with some exploration you get arenas. arenas where you have to kill a certain amount of enemies. It is more a mercs kind of setup but without any of the good gameplay. Most of the maps have me running at enemies to kill them. And yes many hours in you get all sorts of crazy enemies and that makes it worth played but it takes way too long to get to the good stuff. And I really miss the way it was structured in Raid 1.



So far it's good, that's it, not special. The amount of content for the price is ridiculous, well worth it for all RE fans. If this games mechanics felt like RE5 or even RE6 it could have been great, instead it feels like a average generic shooter. Plus it has NONE of the elements of old RE, at least Rev1 attempted to do keys and puzzles, this game is back to all action, but the action is not that great.

robio said:

I suspect the praise for the game is just due to the series getting weaker and weaker as the years have gone by, coupled with a very uneventful 2015. Average is great when everything else is shit.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

Resident Evil fans are starting to remind me of Sonic fans, in that some of them are in such denial that the series isn't what it was 10 years ago, nor is it in the hands of the people it was when it was elite, that any game that comes around even halfway decent they want to believe is some kind of amazing revival. Sometimes its easier to convince yourself that your love of choice is on the right track, even when its not.

I can tell just looking at it that its probably GOOD and I'd have fun with it, but in no way shape or form is it the jaw dropping incredible game you'd want a new Resident Evil to be. That's why I haven't gotten it...too much other stuff to play for me to buy an average RE game right now (including REmake HD).

Dvader said:

Plus it has NONE of the elements of old RE, at least Rev1 attempted to do keys and puzzles, this game is back to all action, but the action is not that great.

This is another thing that annoys the shit out of me. Why do they claim they're trying to go back to what made the series great, when they obviously aren't? Don't fuckin' lie to me Capcom and expect me to keep buying.

edgecrusher said:

This is another thing that annoys the shit out of me. Why do they claim they're trying to go back to what made the series great, when they obviously aren't? Don't fuckin' lie to me Capcom and expect me to keep buying.

People are easy to please, many say that just cause it is dark and creepy it is now like the old games. Did anyone play the old games, they were a mix of adventure games and action, they were structurally totally different from this and all modern RE games.

Revelations 1 is more like the old games than RE5 and perhaps even RE4 were. Just because it's not exactly the same doesn't mean it's not closer. And Revelations 1 was easily the best RE game since RE4. You do make 1 sound a lot better than 2, though.

Foolz said:

The combat was a watered down version of RE5, which is watered down RE4, but unlike RE5, it complemented its watering down with other elements, and did not at all follow the structure of RE4 or RE5 (which is the same thing, but RE5 was so bad at following RE4's structure, I hesitate to say they were the same).

Foolz said:

It does, and its simplicity is one of the reason it works, unlike RE5 which is a convoluted mess.

Foolz said:

edgecrusher said:

I thought Revelation had a much simpler structure than RE5, because of it initially being designed on the 3ds. They did a great job with the limitations, but I still have to give the edge to RE5.

It does, and its simplicity is one of the reason it works, unlike RE5 which is a convoluted mess.

If RE5 is a convoluted mess than what is RE6?