Trevor certainly was a surprise. I enjoyed his missions so much that I didn't want to leave the desert. It's amazing how much this game has opened up after Trevor arrived. The missions are certainly easy to get into and very fun, plus varied.
travo said:Trevor certainly was a surprise. I enjoyed his missions so much that I didn't want to leave the desert. It's amazing how much this game has opened up after Trevor arrived. The missions are certainly easy to get into and very fun, plus varied.
Yeah, the desert setting was a good environment. Shit, I have stuff to do, but going to go play some missions.
I can't wait to get mine! I finally saw GTA 5 PS3 for under $50 shipped $47 game only no box... should have it this week I swore I was going to wait but I saw 47 shipped and jumped on it. Been playing Diablo 3 and the new Splinter Cell both on PC. How you all doing ? It's been a while ! Hey Vader how about those FinS!
_Bear said:I can't wait to get mine! I finally saw GTA 5 PS3 for under $50 shipped $47 game only no box... should have it this week I swore I was going to wait but I saw 47 shipped and jumped on it. Been playing Diablo 3 and the new Splinter Cell both on PC. How you all doing ? It's been a while ! Hey Vader how about those FinS!
Good deal. How are you finding the new Splinter Cell?
This is not a troll post, there are things I love about the game, but more nit-picky things are standing out in my mind at the moment. I will update with things I love later.
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Love:
Hate:
- Weapon Targetting
- Waypoints / Navigation -- Go 15 miles East to turn-around to travel one mile West! Totally gets confused around the highway.
- Cinematic Camera View
- Save System
- Map -- Screen Access; Too many things cluttering up Objectives and all else. Hard to figure out what to do next!
- Controls -- Counter Intuitive, Too many functions to remember!
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aspro said:_Bear said:I can't wait to get mine! I finally saw GTA 5 PS3 for under $50 shipped $47 game only no box... should have it this week I swore I was going to wait but I saw 47 shipped and jumped on it. Been playing Diablo 3 and the new Splinter Cell both on PC. How you all doing ? It's been a while ! Hey Vader how about those FinS!
Good deal. How are you finding the new Splinter Cell?
I think it's great, really fun with a more open world where you can choose missions and Loadouts. Worth playing for sure.
The game is excellent but the dirty secret is that there are very very few heists and none are as complex as the first one (until the last one I assume). That whole promise of planning heists, getting the right crew members and all that is just a lie, you do it maybe twice in the entire game. All other heists are very straight forward and just involve the main three. Such a shame too.
There are some major filler missions. The range in quality is way too extreme, you go through a great action setpiece mission to one where you literally drive to a place, watch a cutscene and drive somewhere else.,, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Its ridiculous. This game has the best and worst missions in GTA history.
Dvader said:The game is excellent but the dirty secret is that there are very very few heists and none are as complex as the first one (until the last one I assume). That whole promise of planning heists, getting the right crew members and all that is just a lie, you do it maybe twice in the entire game. All other heists are very straight forward and just involve the main three. Such a shame too.
There are some major filler missions. The range in quality is way too extreme, you go through a great action setpiece mission to one where you literally drive to a place, watch a cutscene and drive somewhere else.,, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Its ridiculous. This game has the best and worst missions in GTA history.
The mission BS sounds like Saints Row 3.
phantom_leo said:This is not a troll post, there are things I love about the game, but more nit-picky things are standing out in my mind at the moment. I will update with things I love later.
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Love:
Hate:
- Weapon Targetting
- Waypoints / Navigation -- Go 15 miles East to turn-around to travel one mile West! Totally gets confused around the highway.
- Cinematic Camera View
- Save System
- Map -- Screen Access; Too many things cluttering up Objectives and all else. Hard to figure out what to do next!
- Controls -- Counter Intuitive, Too many functions to remember!
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I'm with you on some of these but I am wondering about a few of them. What aiming are you using, it's very customizable. What's wrong with saving, it has auto save and you can save anywhere at any time. GPS is just like a real GPS, it tries to kill you at times 
. Cinematic camera, what do you mean, when you press circle while in a car? Or just the way the camera is, again there are many options to change it. The map you can turn off and on various icons. I am not a big fan of the context sensitive dpad controls.
I have to take another break from the game, I am away till Wednesday which means when I get back online will be up. So far with the single player I am in a Zelda SS kind of state. While playing I am in love, I can't stop, I never want it to end. But looking at the big picture I see so much missed opportunity, so when I post about it on forums I focus on the negatives more because the positives have been a given for so long. You know why GTA is great, this game is no different.
But unlike SS I don't think there is a clearly better GTA. This game has improved almost all aspects of the game and has what maybe the best game world ever created. That said it doesn't have that wow factor or that sense of "I can't believe I am doing this" that the ps2 GTAs had. It all comes back to the missions cause that is where rockstar could have taken the next step. Imagine if GTA wasn't just go to place shoot guys and escape. Imagine if it were much more with full stealth, optional mission parameters, multiple routes and story decisions. You get a tiny glimpse of that and then it never retrurns (again I assume the final one will be the most elaborate so perhaps it returns at the end).
My critique if the game isn't so much "man I have played so much better than this", it's more "I think you could do even better". GTAV is more of a refinement of everything that has come before than a groundbreaking title.
Well at least for now, perhaps GTA Online will change that.
Dvader said:The game is excellent but the dirty secret is that there are very very few heists and none are as complex as the first one (until the last one I assume). That whole promise of planning heists, getting the right crew members and all that is just a lie, you do it maybe twice in the entire game. All other heists are very straight forward and just involve the main three. Such a shame too.
There are some major filler missions. The range in quality is way too extreme, you go through a great action setpiece mission to one where you literally drive to a place, watch a cutscene and drive somewhere else.,, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Its ridiculous. This game has the best and worst missions in GTA history.
The way reveiwers talk about it you'd think the game was essentially Payday, but it's true, at least so far for me, the 4 heists I have done don;t begin to measure up to the first one.
I am in the middle of the game I suspect, (I just did the military heist), and leading up to this there has been a lull in story related missions. So far I have not had any missions that have been worse than any prior GTAV game, in fact I've found some a bit quizzical, but not bad like the ones in GTA4 etc...
phantom_leo said:This is not a troll post, there are things I love about the game, but more nit-picky things are standing out in my mind at the moment. I will update with things I love later.
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Love:
Hate:
- Waypoints / Navigation -- Go 15 miles East to turn-around to travel one mile West! Totally gets confused around the highway.
Typical New Yorker. Welcome to LA.
Dvader said:phantom_leo said:This is not a troll post, there are things I love about the game, but more nit-picky things are standing out in my mind at the moment. I will update with things I love later.
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Love:
Hate:
- Weapon Targetting
- Waypoints / Navigation -- Go 15 miles East to turn-around to travel one mile West! Totally gets confused around the highway.
- Cinematic Camera View
- Save System
- Map -- Screen Access; Too many things cluttering up Objectives and all else. Hard to figure out what to do next!
- Controls -- Counter Intuitive, Too many functions to remember!
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I'm with you on some of these but I am wondering about a few of them. What aiming are you using, it's very customizable. What's wrong with saving, it has auto save and you can save anywhere at any time. GPS is just like a real GPS, it tries to kill you at times
- Can you save anywhere, anytime? As far as they explained there's Autosave and Sleeping in your bed. If there's a way to save at any time, it would have been nice if they made that clearer.
- I admit I haven't fiddled with the options all that much. The default "dot" gets lost soooo easily in the environment, I spend more time trying to find IT than shooting enemies.
- GPS is just broken, especially on the highways. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten on and off ramps only to turn around and do it again. I hate to bring it up but the arrows in the environment in Saints Row IV never let me down. I know they were going for realism, but, my god, don't do it at the expense of playability!
- The cinematic camera, yes while in your car, is horrible. Do you just press it? Do you hold it? What's the point when it changes your perspective and you can't see the direction in which you are headed when it does this. You lock on to your target, yes, but it makes it nearly impossible to steer!
- The map is a mess. A LOT of the times I have no idea where to go next or what to do!
Save is on your phone. I changed the target to a complex target, much better. The gps woks for me most of the time.
Don't use the cinematic Camera. What wrong with the mAp? Everything is clearly labeled and it is easy to mark an location for gps.
Dvader said:Save is on your phone. I changed the target to a complex target, much better. The gps woks for me most of the time.
Don't use the cinematic Camera. What wrong with the mAp? Everything is clearly labeled and it is easy to mark an location for gps.
Yes. I have not problem with any of this. You can quicksave on your phone at any time (that you are not in a mission). Once you set your waypoint on the map it's easy to get around. (and if you still have trouble, set a waypoint, call a taxi from your phone and then fast travel there by skipping the ride).
GTA online worked fine for me late in the night. I played for about 2 hours and it was interesting but kind of boring. The main world is populated with random people. The game doesnt want you to be randomly murdering each other so you get label bad if you kill others in the game world. Everything is so spaced out you hardly see anyone and if you do, who cares, there is nothing to do. I guess you can cause random chaos and get the cops on you but that is about it. Oh and the traffic is almost non existant and there are almost no NPCs.
Around the world there are icons to start races, missions, deathmatch, etc. There is absolutely no reason to go to these icons cause at any time you can access your menu and hop into any of those kinds of events instantly. It then pulls you out of the world into a menu where you set the guidelines if you are the host and then you invite people or it invites for you. Once you have a match it begins after the timer just like any other online game, you get teleported to whatever part of the map its in and the game begins.
I did team deathmatch with one life, that was pretty boring as it was just 4 people and we only had pistols. The maps are small areas of the overall world but now with weapon pickups and armor, very similar to GTAIV. I did one off road race with bikes, pretty fun, again I found it hard to get people to join. While you play on your own you will get messages asking you to join other games all the time as well.
As you do these missions you rank up and make money which you can spend on your car or buy a home, clothes, etc. Every once and a while you get a mission from a main character like Lamar, this has a cutscene and is a more traditional GTA mission but one you can do with others. Now these seemed interesting and I only got to do two. Working together makes for a way better experience than some bad deathmatch.
We will see how it goes, I am still unlocking a bunch of stuff. Also robbing stores is easy money, do it.
Dvader said:The game is excellent but the dirty secret is that there are very very few heists and none are as complex as the first one (until the last one I assume). That whole promise of planning heists, getting the right crew members and all that is just a lie, you do it maybe twice in the entire game. All other heists are very straight forward and just involve the main three. Such a shame too.
There are some major filler missions. The range in quality is way too extreme, you go through a great action setpiece mission to one where you literally drive to a place, watch a cutscene and drive somewhere else.,, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Its ridiculous. This game has the best and worst missions in GTA history.
Weird.
Dvader said:I have to take another break from the game, I am away till Wednesday which means when I get back online will be up. So far with the single player I am in a Zelda SS kind of state. While playing I am in love, I can't stop, I never want it to end. But looking at the big picture I see so much missed opportunity, so when I post about it on forums I focus on the negatives more because the positives have been a given for so long. You know why GTA is great, this game is no different.
But unlike SS I don't think there is a clearly better GTA. This game has improved almost all aspects of the game and has what maybe the best game world ever created. That said it doesn't have that wow factor or that sense of "I can't believe I am doing this" that the ps2 GTAs had. It all comes back to the missions cause that is where rockstar could have taken the next step. Imagine if GTA wasn't just go to place shoot guys and escape. Imagine if it were much more with full stealth, optional mission parameters, multiple routes and story decisions. You get a tiny glimpse of that and then it never retrurns (again I assume the final one will be the most elaborate so perhaps it returns at the end).
My critique if the game isn't so much "man I have played so much better than this", it's more "I think you could do even better". GTAV is more of a refinement of everything that has come before than a groundbreaking title.
Well at least for now, perhaps GTA Online will change that.
Great insight. Is most of it go here and shoot then escape?
Online sounds boring and empty.
gamingeek said:Great insight. Is most of it go here and shoot then escape?
Online sounds boring and empty.
No not really, the great missions have all sorts of cool things going on with the story, One has you ride a bike onto a train, ride the bike on top of the train till you take it over, then as mike you get a boat and take it to a bridge where trevor crashes the train dropping the cars into the water below. Then you have to protect mike as he recovers stuff from the police. Shootouts are elaborate. Some has all sorts of context sensitive actions, which almost feel like QTEs.
Its just the filler missions to get to the good missions is stuff like, take someone to a spot. Steal a certain car. Go someplace and watch a cutscene. Its basically just story progression but it bugs me that it counts as part of the overall missions, it makes the 69 main mission number be a lie, about 20 of those you practically do nothing but drive and watch cutscenes.
I went through the same lull, but that turned around today. I think I'm on the last 10-15 missions, hoping to finish it tonight or tomorrow morning.
It does get better after about a 15 mission lull in the middle of the game.
I really don;t like Trevor at all as a person. Great chatracter for a game, but he's a monster.
I tried posting a photo from my iPad, but I couldn't so I found this image online. Here is the location, Vader. 
Given that Lost and the Damned was my favorite GTA to date I really did not like the way Trevor met Johnny Klebitz. Kind of did not like his character from that point on.
I got home late last night, too tired to play, but then was like, "okay, one mission". Two hours later... It's one of those games where you just want to know what happens next, and the way the missions are set up they make it easy to pursue the main story line.