I think that if you go on a ghost tour you are already sold on the concept. So, it's just confiming your established beliefs.
Humans are great are creating context, pretext and something out of nothing. It's why all the other animals are meat or pets, so of course we look for meaning where there is none.
I have opinions, but not beliefs, at my age even I am not so arrogant to believe in things any more. But my opinion is, what you see is what you get and anything else is make-believe.
Dvader said:Are there really ghosts? Are there things that science cannot explain.
No. Yes.
Glad we got that sorted.
When I was young we went to my granpas funeral, and we were outside in front of double doors to a room with a tribute set up for him. Then a freak gust of wind blew the doors open and started shaking the table with all his stuff on it.
gamingeek said:When I was young we went to my granpas funeral, and we were outside in front of double doors to a room with a tribute set up for him. Then a freak gust of wind blew the doors open and started shaking the table with all his stuff on it.
That's called weather.
aspro said:I think that if you go on a ghost tour you are already sold on the concept. So, it's just confiming your established beliefs.
Humans are great are creating context, pretext and something out of nothing. It's why all the other animals are meat or pets, so of course we look for meaning where there is none.
I have opinions, but not beliefs, at my age even I am not so arrogant to believe in things any more. But my opinion is, what you see is what you get and anything else is make-believe.
I am not sold at all, I would like to be sold but I have yet to see of hear anything convincing. Every story had its aspect that could clearly be explained.
My mom claims that every house/apartment she has ever lived in was haunted. I, however, have never experienced anything in the homes we shared, or since. Ghost stories are fun to hear, but are just made up stories, IMO, even if the person telling them absolutely believes they are true. I agree with Aspro; humans often make something out of nothing.
Dvader said:gamingeek said:When I was young we went to my granpas funeral, and we were outside in front of double doors to a room with a tribute set up for him. Then a freak gust of wind blew the doors open and started shaking the table with all his stuff on it.
That's called weather.
It happened when me and my bro were standing right in front of the doors and there was incense and shit burning on the table. Freaky.
Oh yeah, Vade, was not shitting on your concept.
There is value to exploring this stuff. Exploration in general is positive, regardless of the outcome.
So no offense intended.
Oh, I don't believe in ghosts for one second. But that was the one first hand experience I have ever had with anything like this, so I was relaying it. I give the weird look to people who believe in ghosts most of the time.
Ravenprose said:My mom claims that every house/apartment she has ever lived in was haunted. I, however, have never experienced anything in the homes we shared, or since.
Raven, did the hauntings stop when you moved out?
aspro said:Oh yeah, Vade, was not shitting on your concept.
There is value to exploring this stuff. Exploration in general is positive, regardless of the outcome.
So no offense intended.
You cant offend me, come on.
My mom claims she saw her Grand father after he died he came into her room she got out of bed and stepped on a jack. That was when she was around 6 years old.
Another time she was at the cemetery planting flowers on my grandfathers grave and somebody was talking to her somebody else kept starring at her like she was crazy when she turned around there was nobody there and my mom said that person couldn't run that fast they were very old.
I never experienced anything so I just mentioned what my mother experienced.
gamingeek said:" stepped on a jack" ?
That is how she says she didn't just dream it.
I'm unfamiliar if they call it by a different name anywhere else. It is a metal toy that you bounce a ball and see how many of those little jacks they could pick up before they have to catch that ball.
I don't have any experiences myself that can't be explained like part of the house settling in. We used to explore an old graveyard called "Zombieland" but I never felt anything odd there.
I will say that being in a school hallway at night and seeing a silhouette walking towards me, is just about the creepiest thing to happen. I could've killed that custodian.
Nintyfan17 said:That is how she says she didn't just dream it.
I'm unfamiliar if they call it by a different name anywhere else. It is a metal toy that you bounce a ball and see how many of those little jacks they could pick up before they have to catch that ball.
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I've taken a parapsychology course, which yes I paid for. I later went on to partially film a documentary about the locations in my town that are allegedly the most haunted, while also conducting interviews with ghost hunters that have had paranormal encounters in those locations. Even after my training and research, I have not experienced a single paranormal event. To this day, I still get grazers who tell me that I just need to experience it for myself to believe when I tell them that I'm a skeptic, and they seem unphased after I tell them that I'm a bona fide ghost hunter.
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So I took a New Orleans ghost tour earlier today, its a walking tour where you see famous old homes/hotels and the guide tells you the gruesome history and some tales of haunting. You don’t actually go into any haunted location or see anything, it is all stories. There were tales of a family who would do horrible experiments to slaves, the home is now haunted. The Andrew Jackson hotel which is the most haunted hotel in NO where a fire burned many children alive, they haunt the hotel. So you get stories of how you hear them scream down the halls. Hotel guests see the ghosts in the middle of the night. Things get moved, TVs change channel, weird pictures get taken, stuff like that.
I love ghost stories, who doesn’t but that is what they always seem to remain. Are there really ghosts? Are there things that science cannot explain. There are two ways to look at this. We live in an age with instant access to cameras, recording devices, access to the entire world at our finger tips. If it exists you can sure as hell bet we can get footage of it. Our science is more advanced then ever. Why then do ghosts and other strange happenings remain with no real evidence. Why is there no giant scientific study done in these so called haunted locations to see exactly what is happening?
The other way to see it is that ghost stories are so prevalent, so many people claim to experience something strange and there are so many nearly too hard to shrug off coincidences for it to all be a giant fake hoax. Yes the human mind can play tricks on you. Humans can be in any number of states of consciousness where they may believe to experience something that is not so. And then there are just weird crazy shit that doesn’t seem to have explanation. You hear about exorcisms and how a person will all of a sudden speak a language they never knew before for instance.
Like religion it seems you kind of just have to go with the notion of “believe” rather than something you can study and get evidence on. Thats where I have trouble believing in that stuff. So where are you at on this and if you do believe in ghosts does that not confirm some form of afterlife?
And if you have stories absolutely share them. I have never personally experienced anything. But my brother who is also way religious has, but if anyone is going to exaggerate and tell bullshit stories it is him. I do have a doctor friend who is more grounded that had some stories but they are easily explained off as some lucid dream. So if you got something make it good.