phantom_leo said:I don't think it was so much revenge as preventative measures though. I'm pretty sure my Vita Chamber theory is right though...
Yeah that makes perfect sense. Which is why its probably wrong. 
Didn't they mention something about this being the last one?
...and what was up with the Male Lutece wanting to give up manipulating events and settle down to start a family? What were they alluding to there?
Speaking of multiple versions of reality. What this game shows is that Bioshock 1 only happens in this version of Infinite, the one where the babies head gets cut off meaning its not the same version as the Infinite we played.
Dvader said:Speaking of multiple versions of reality. What this game shows is that Bioshock 1 only happens in this version of Infinite, the one where the babies head gets cut off meaning its not the same version as the Infinite we played.
Right. I don't think that was supposed to be the Elizabeth from Infinite. I don't think they would "kill" her off like that.
...but it was most definitely the same Rapture. It had to be or all of the events and the twists wouldn't mean anything.
phantom_leo said:Right. I don't think that was supposed to be the Elizabeth from Infinite. I don't think they would "kill" her off like that.
...but it was most definitely the same Rapture. It had to be or all of the events and the twists wouldn't mean anything.
Yeah I didn't think that was the same Elizabeth either but that couldn't be an Elizabeth from that timeline since her head was cutoff so it had to be an interdimensional Elizabeth sent in to get clean up that loose end.
Which leads back to my first question, why and how did this elizabeth ever get started on this mission. And do the multiple Elizabeths talk to each other or does it not work like that. So basically an Elizabeth by looking through all the doors saw this strange version of the events in Infinite where she would be killed and Comstock basically goes scott free. She is so pissed off at that, that she goes into that dimension into rapture and makes sure Booker remembers he is comstock just to make the death all the more brutal.
Then Elizabeth dies, is vita chambered back. She is filled with guilt cause she used this poor little girl for her own vendetta and now the girl is in danger. She then sees all the horrors of the Little Sisters and realizes the only way to save them is to sacrifice herself, rather than live forever everywhere, be mortal but have a huge impact. So she directly causes the events that set Bioshock 1 in motion which leads to the saving of all the little sisters.
But I missing something cause her subconsicous booker claimed she already knew why she went there in the first place she had just forgotten. I think Elizabeth knew from the start she had to die for the little sisters to be saved but the memory wipe made it seem like a mystery, which is why subconsious Booker was slowly guiding her.
OH what if all Elizabeths end the same way, what if she always sacrifices herself to save the little sisters in rapture but in this odd version of the history, because this comstock didn't end up in the fountain she ends up doing a murder side mission which accidentally ends up in her death complicating the saving of the little sisters.
And now I am crazy.
phantom_leo said:Didn't they mention something about this being the last one?
...and what was up with the Male Lutece wanting to give up manipulating events and settle down to start a family? What were they alluding to there?
I believe the whole message of this DLC was about the ending of being an omniscient being and instead finding the right way to "end" your story.
What it actually is, is: Suchong uses Elizabeth's DNA to CREATE the Little Sisters. He gets the DNA, sends it to Fink in one time, Fink sends it back to Suchong at an earlier point in Rapture history. The Little Sisters all share each other's memories and absorb the memories of the adam they absorb from human beings. A Little Sister absorbs dead Elizabeth's adam, but gains omniscience and the ability to jump dimensions in the process. This is Sally. Sally goes back to the past to exact revenge on Booker, but get's killed and is restored by a Vita Chamber...
...that's why this Elizabeth has that porcelain "Little Sister" look about her face.
^ Ohhh I like that
The picture or the theory...
...cuz I'm really just talkin' out of m' butt again...
My head hurts.
phantom_leo said:The picture or the theory...
...cuz I'm really just talkin' out of m' butt again...
Both.
Side question: Anyone know if the novel Bioshock: Rapture considered canon? I'm tempted to read it.
Someone on gaf says the Lucete twins claimed to have to collapse all Elizabeths into one being in order to get her to rapture or something and that is why she has her pinky, she is whole again.
Ravenprose said:Side question: Anyone know if the novel Bioshock: Rapture considered canon? I'm tempted to read it.
There is probably a version of you that has read it already, ask him.
Dvader said:Ravenprose said:Side question: Anyone know if the novel Bioshock: Rapture considered canon? I'm tempted to read it.
There is probably a version of you that has read it already, ask him.
I did. But he's a bastard and won't tell me. 
Little Sisters --DO-- have a sort of omniscience. This was explained in BioShock 2.
They --DO-- gain the memories of the people's Adam that they drink.
Suchong does retrieve Elizabeth's DNA for some reason.
This Elizabeth does have a Little Sister look about her.
Don't they ask her if she's feeling a little "smaller" in the beginning of the second DLC?
Hmmmm...? 
Ravenprose said:I did. But he's a bastard and won't tell me.
Sorry. That's my fault. That version of you is too busy fapping to the picture of Elizabeth I just posted in that dimension. Ask again later.
phantom_leo said:Sorry. That's my fault. That version of you is too busy fapping to the picture of Elizabeth I just posted in that dimension. Ask again later.
I was wondering why he wouldn't open the door, and kept asking me if I had any hand lotion! 
YOU DIDN'T GIVE HIM THE LOTION DID YOU?!?
MY GOD!! YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO!!
THE Quantam Superposition of all those hamsters fapping across the different universes and the resulting friction opens a tear which inevitably leads to the end of all human life!! 
So do the interdimensional Elizabeth's go through multiple dimensions making sure any of the Comstock's that didn't end up at the fountain get brutally murdered. Sounds like it would make for a cool show.