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720P: Did it Ever Exist?
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Sat, 05 Oct 2013 04:18:31
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While having my mind blown at how much IPS panel monitors have gone down in price without comprimising too much on quality, I ended up looking for old, second hand 720P monitors, or at the very least televisions (because that's the logical next step). I found none. The closest native resolution I could find were televisions and monitors getting on the laptop bandwagon with 1366x768. And thinking back to the old reviews of HD televisions when they first started popping up (or at least when the 360 launched) most also had resolutions like that.

Or have 720P native resolution monitors and televisions simply been wiped off the face of the earth? If not (and they never actually existed), why did 720P become a standard advertising resolution, and why did the 360 and PS3 choose 720P as their output given that it meant almost nothing would be able to display them without upscaling? Also, with all these full HD elitists, wouldn't most 720P games upscaled to 1080P look pretty shit? Not Wii-on HD shit, but still pretty fucking bad when you're an elitist.

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Sat, 05 Oct 2013 13:52:16
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720p scaled up to 1080p looks good, 1080p is clearer but if you don't have it you wont miss it. Depends on the screen size.

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Sat, 05 Oct 2013 14:12:34
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I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember old CRT HDTVs having 720p/1080i max resolutions. When LCD HDTVs started coming out, most were 768p but were marketed as 720p since most broadcast HDTV signals here in the US are either 720p or 1080i.

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Sat, 05 Oct 2013 14:20:51
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Ravenprose said:

I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember old CRT HDTVs having 720p/1080i max resolutions. When LCD HDTVs started coming out, most were 768p but were marketed as 720p since most broadcast HDTV signals here in the US are either 720p or 1080i.

you are right, I had a CRT that was 960i a 34 XBR man that sucker was HEAVY 202 LBS great picture too which ever signal 720p or 1080i I would have kept it but it was to big and heavy  FOR apt living. Good luck finding an HDTV CRT Foolz they are pretty much wiped from the face of the earth. Hell even any CRT is hard to find now.

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Sat, 05 Oct 2013 23:14:02
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_Bear said:
Ravenprose said:

I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember old CRT HDTVs having 720p/1080i max resolutions. When LCD HDTVs started coming out, most were 768p but were marketed as 720p since most broadcast HDTV signals here in the US are either 720p or 1080i.

you are right, I had a CRT that was 960i a 34 XBR man that sucker was HEAVY 202 LBS great picture too which ever signal 720p or 1080i I would have kept it but it was to big and heavy  FOR apt living. Good luck finding an HDTV CRT Foolz they are pretty much wiped from the face of the earth. Hell even any CRT is hard to find now.

Yep. Same experiences and rememories.

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Sun, 06 Oct 2013 03:17:01
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But the good old Cathode Ray (superior in some ways to LCD) doesn't have fixed pixels, and thus doesn't have a native resolution either. So this means that despite 720P being a standard, the majority of display devices (CRT died off pretty quickly) were never actually in line with the content. Obviously if upscaling is good 720 to 768 is going to be a neglible (or unnoticable) reduction in quality...but I don't know. The whole thing seems absurd to me.

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you are right, I had a CRT that was 960i a 34 XBR man that sucker was HEAVY 202 LBS great picture too which ever signal 720p or 1080i I would have kept it but it was to big and heavy  FOR apt living. Good luck finding an HDTV CRT Foolz they are pretty much wiped from the face of the earth. Hell even any CRT is hard to find now.

They do still make specialist CRTs because of their superiority in certain areas...but their price is about as practical as their size and weight.

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720p scaled up to 1080p looks good, 1080p is clearer but if you don't have it you wont miss it. Depends on the screen size.

Surely it also depends on how well the device in question scales as well? An upscaling of just a couple of hundred pixels looks pretty torrid on my small monitor, even from a distance.

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Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:01:19
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I guess but in general the gap between 720 and 1080 isn't that bad if it's 720 scaled up. Depends more on the AA

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