Whoa!  Somebody found out who the first zombie was. Nice Easter egg. I thought they focused on the handcuffs on her arm for a reason.  Scroll down for comparison pics. http://spoilthedead.com/forum/showthread.php/14853-Andrea-Walker?p=722572&viewfull=1#post722572

Fox orders a Full Season for Gotham

Dvader said:

They didn't before? Shit that is about as safe a show as it gets.

They only ordered 16 episodes before Today.

I just saw the balloon man episode, fantastic! Gotham is getting better and better. They nailed the fine line between being comic booky and still semi gritty. You have the exaggerated stuff like a dead body falling on a old lady, then guys with shovels scraping her off the floor, hilarious. And stuff like penguin brutally murdering guys. Oh and I love how Alfred has no clue what to do with Bruce, what a cool dynamic. Great show.

Dvader said:

Star Wars Rebels starts tonight, hope its good.

I saw the Pilot movie "Spark of the Rebellion" two weeks ago it was good.

I missed the pilot but have the other episodes taped.  I haven't gotten around to watching any of them yet.

Dvader said:

Star Wars Rebels starts tonight, hope its good.

But you haven't seen Clone Wars yet?

I saw the Gotham pilot, didn't like it much, without Batman it comes off as a fairly average crime series. Why is baby Catwoman stalking Bruce BTW? Weird girl. Perching on a gravestone? Really?

I watched the Batman trilogy. The first film is so bad it's good. Batman kills about 500 ninjas (and likely the guy he was trying to save) directly after going on his no killing anyone speech, then pre-meditates the murder of the evil dude at the end and uses the lamest defence ever to justify it. The whole film is full of so much dumb shit like this. The fight scenes are awfully edited and cut; it masks the boring choreography at least. The Batmobile chase over the roofs is so floaty and slow (once it gets on the ground it's fun, though; I like the videogame chase camera). And the tone is so weird. It's super serious and gritty, yet has a comic book script with comic book jokes and morality. It looks like shit. Some of the most boring shots of New York combined with some of the worst attempts at a Gothic aesthetic, mostly illustrated with AWFUL CGI interposed over New York  (videogame brown for the slums: eww). Child Batman: wow, hundreds of millions of dollars, and you couldn't find a child who could act? Hilarious shit.

The second film blew my mind...it was actually good. The awful, awful fight scene editing is gone and while the choreography is still boring as hell, the fight scenes are still fun. Batman is weighty and shit. Gotham actually looks nice now (nice framing, solid editing, too). There's nothing gothic about it, but sort of futuristic New York is cool, and they nail the tone: the black humour of joker is great, and is a good replacement for the dumb as fuck grittiness of the first film; gives the film an edge much better than the bullshit in the first film, and doesn't jar with the comic bookishness. Oh, and he murders the evil dude at the end again lol...he just can't help himself. The ending after that is such a lame ad for Batman 3, though.

The third film...this would be absolutely banal without Bane. It feels like Bane was meant to be the joker with the shit he does (his whole bomb plan is 100% joker, doesn't really make sense for the League of Arseholes; especially their most ruthless, efficient member---so badarse they had to expel him; fuck it's very similar to bomb plot of the second film anyway*). The staging is laughable, the choreography is the worst in the series. I mean re-watch the scene where Batman and Bane are fighting at the end. So much dumb shit happens it's incredible. The funniest bit is the cowardly policeman being blown up, then lying curled up as a perfect corpse in the foetal position. But, wow, so much dumb shit happens in that scene. The structure is awful; doesn't really have any momentum, and feels like a short TV series cut down. Also, cat woman is so vanilla. Would be the worst film in the series if not for Bane.

Bane's morality>>>Batman's (protector of the capitalist scum; oppressor of the people).

*Twist justification might have worked if she was a bigger part of the film. She wasn’t, so I’m putting it on Bane.

So, in summary:

Batman 1: 4/10

Batman 2: 6/10

Batman 3: 5/10

I typed a reply to Foolz's Batman Trilogy post, but it somehow vannished.  Short version: I agree with Foolz.  the second one was the best, the third is entertaining, although it doesn't make much sense, the first isn't all that good.

Nintyfan17 said:

I sort of agree. Batman Begins is the only one I can watch multiple times.

The Dark Knight is too long I was actually checking the clock watching it because there were multiple times where I thought the movie was going to end soon only to find there was still an hour left.

I was okay with the third one I like it less than Batman Begins and the Dark Knight.

I liked all three movies it is just Batman Begins doesn't feel as long as the others so I can watch it multiple times.

It is literally the shortest. It doesn't just feel shorter.