Gagan said:Saying those sentences without explaining why the enemy placement is bad (which he does explain why they are), or why some boss battles are repetitive (which he explains they are) is the root of my disagreement. With Anderson I don't get "it has an interconnected world"...the end. I get "it's an interconnected world, because x links into blah blah blah blah blah blah" . I don't give a fuck that he could dial it back a bit, I get more information from one n not the other. I get more interesting criticism or talking points from one n not the other.
That is a measurable difference than any of the written joints do. Arguing otherwise is arguing in poor faith slick. Because I would rather get the details now than anyone who can actually write, but he doesn't actually say fucking anything.I don't think it counts because it still has similar issues, and they just found a way to do the same movie review issues but in a longer drawn out format. I don't think they explore the mechanics enough, I think that stupid youtuber thing where they go over the entire plot of the story bit by bit by bit, which any asswipe could do, not the least of which is I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE DUMBASS VIDEO GAME STORY YOU STUPID CUNT!
My post in no way implies he doesn't explain himself. It merely says that he's an awful critic doing awful criticism because he requires one fucking hour to explain why those things are the way they are. Some written critics explain their conclusions and use details, it's absurd to suggest they don't. You could absolutely make the claim that fewer do, though. That would be a reasonable claim; indeed very few written critics do, while many YouTube critics do. So you'd be right if you just claimed that's the standard style of criticism on YouTube for games, whereas in written content for games it's rare. But you seem to be claiming it doesn't exist in written criticism, which would make you wrong.
Also, almost none of them require 5,000-30,000 words to say what the 1-3 hour YouTube critics say, so the extraordinary verbosity of YouTube critics is also another objective difference. But it's not a big difference because the written articles people go nuts about they usually also go nuts about just because they're long, too.
Foolz said:My post in no way implies he doesn't explain himself.
Then it's a shit point, mate. I acknowledged homeboy could stand to edit his shit better, but they offer something the written shit doesn't. So I'll go back, they are better, significantly so. Still bad. So the end result is that gaming criticism as a work is still trash, but you can kick rocks on the "some written critics", bitch NONE OF THEM DO. I am not speaking in figurative term, I am using the term in absolute terms. 100%, as in all of the written reviews on the planet of earth, are abject failures on a basic fundamental level of explaining fucking anything. I obviously accept Anderson n Turbo Button are exceptions.
But there aint no exception in written reviews.
Gagan said:But there aint no exception in written reviews.
I assume this is deliberately a double negative, and you're admitting your absurd claim is false.
100%.
Not 12
not 50 percent
not 99.999999999%
100%.
Gagan said:100%.
Not 12
not 50 percent
not 99.999999999%
100%.
100% that's what you're doing?
Gagan said:Also game journos were always bad, they didn't suddenly get bad, you just were less woke than you are today.
I've always been unwoke.
Gagan said:hunnit pa cent
Good to know you're willing to admit when you're wrong.
Exhibit C (I will admit that this is partially a joke inclusion, but it's also the only one that contains anything interesting due to its B.F. Skinner references).
And if we're being intellectually honest, strategy guides and long, old consumer value reviews are structurally the same and just as uninteresting as this shit is. But mercifully, in the case of the latter, not as long.
>Gags: One hunnit Pa Cent of reviews are trash
>Tomas: posts 3 things that aren't reviews
The absolute state of New Zealand.
But there aint no exception in written reviews.
ahem
Foolz said:
Only gonna read here, but sure, okay it's more of what I'd like to read and have explored with writing n analysis of games. It's why I can sit through a JosephAnderson vid no matter how badly paced and overly long they are, because that effort is found in his description of the gameplay and its systems.
Foolz said:
And if we're being intellectually honest, strategy guides and long, old consumer value reviews are structurally the same and just as uninteresting as this shit is. But mercifully, in the case of the latter, not as long.
Strategy guides wouldn't fit, it would be intellectually disnhonest as fuck toe even act like they would. For starters they aren't a crituqe of any kind, and rarely are they break downs of a mechanic.
There is usually some lip service done early, but very little explaination of why a player would do x. The part where they walkthrough the game is just that, it's a walkthrough. Describing what's ahead and an optimized way to deal with it, with maybe an alternative option. Not the same thing where I'm asking you to explain the systems, what they do, what niches they cover, how they work with other mechanics, and then go into what decisions they have the player make. Tho if we're arguing strategy guides are better than game reviews? Uh yeah sure, they at least serve their purpose.
Written game reviews are literally worthless.
I concede and hold my L tomas. Play Devil May Cry 3.
aspro said:Are ther eany good news sources anymore for gaming?
I pick up everything I need from gaming podcasts these days.
Wait... how did this thread get necro-bumped? But yeah interesting I posted a very similar thread 7 years later
I knew something was off when I saw CVG listed. Anyway, what are video games? I know no news about this thing that I don't know.
By Miu Watanabe.
edgecrusher said:Remember when IGN used to have the BEST Nintendo news?
Then Cassamassina had to go & join Apple?
That's True. Then Jose Otero was boring and really in the campe for Nintendo... where did he leave IGN for to go work? OH THAT'S RIGHT NINTENDO!
Then they hired that piece of filth... Filip Miucin
edgecrusher said:Gagan said:Also game journos were always bad, they didn't suddenly get bad, you just were less woke than you are today.
I've always been unwoke.
I've been unwoke since I had a kid.
https://medium.com/@DocSeuss/i-dont-think-i-like-prestige-games-f85ef5cc46d5
The absolute state of the goons Tomas apologized for. When will New Zealand stop holding Ls
Gagan said:https://medium.com/@DocSeuss/i-dont-think-i-like-prestige-games-f85ef5cc46d5
The absolute state of the goons Tomas apologized for. When will New Zealand stop holding Ls
I didn't even read the things I linked you to, do you expect me to read that?
Saying those sentences without explaining why the enemy placement is bad (which he does explain why they are), or why some boss battles are repetitive (which he explains they are) is the root of my disagreement. With Anderson I don't get "it has an interconnected world"...the end. I get "it's an interconnected world, because x links into blah blah blah blah blah blah" . I don't give a fuck that he could dial it back a bit, I get more information from one n not the other. I get more interesting criticism or talking points from one n not the other.
That is a measurable difference than any of the written joints do. Arguing otherwise is arguing in poor faith slick. Because I would rather get the details now than anyone who can actually write, but he doesn't actually say fucking anything.
I don't think it counts because it still has similar issues, and they just found a way to do the same movie review issues but in a longer drawn out format. I don't think they explore the mechanics enough, I think that stupid youtuber thing where they go over the entire plot of the story bit by bit by bit, which any asswipe could do, not the least of which is I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE DUMBASS VIDEO GAME STORY YOU STUPID CUNT!