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[gametrailers.com] No More Heroes 2 trailer. Yes you read correctly. gametrailers.com Dvader
Resident Evil 5 TGS Trailer Vader Freakout Confirmed. 1up.com darthhomer
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[gamesindustry.biz] 360 Fallout 3 hacked and online Pirates have it  3 weeks before release gamesindustry.biz gamingeek
[gamesindustry.biz] PS2 still outselling PS3 in Japan Wii still outselling them all combined gamesindustry.biz gamingeek
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[ign.com] Gundam 2 Trailer ign.com Iga_Bobovic
[ign.com] Dragon Ball: Origin video TGS 2008: Trailer (off screen) ign.com Iga_Bobovic
[ign.com] Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia video zombie attack (off screen) ign.com Iga_Bobovic
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[ign.com] Space Invaders Get Even screens ign.com Iga_Bobovic
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[eurogamer.net] World of Goo Eurogamer Review 9.0 eurogamer.net Iga_Bobovic
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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:32:07
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gamingeek said:

Conduit impressions

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/the-conduit/wii/game-features/impressions-the-conduit/

Although the game is fun, High Voltage has done a remarkable job bringing out the best graphics on the Wii, creating realistic looking textures and water effects. Characters animate well, the aliens look ugly and things run at a brisk pace. It still looks like a PlayStation 2 game, but considering some of the Wii's uglier shooters, this is a great achievement.

Gamedaily says that the Conduit has the best graphics on the Wii, but it still looks like a PS2 game. So according to gamedaily the PS2 > Wii graphically.

That's a weird way they put it. I'd agree that there's a lot of games on the PS2 that look prettier than most of what's on the Wii, like Final Fantasy 12, God of War 2, etc. But that's because there was a real effort to put graphically impressive games on the system by the industry's top talent for a span of 6-plus years and really push it as far as it could go.

I used to wonder how much further the Cube and Xbox could have been pushed if they had that level of commitment. Obviously the Wii destroys the PS2 technically, but unfortunately the Wii is also the only system that has ever had this philosophy that's almost anti-graphics and anti-hardware. Its like an excuse for lazyness.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:39:01
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I meant guaranteed great games. Not Wii music and some of those others. Games gamers want, the people Reggie complains about. How many of those are even going to be all that great? That list doesn't fill me with the same level of trust that N system release lists in past years have.

BTW, Wario as boring. Couldn't get into it. Looked nice though.

Edgecrusher, in the past I would have agreed with you. But look at all these guaranteed great games that have turned out to be flops or not as great as hoped. Lair, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable, Force Unleashed et al. These are the games that people cite in forums for reasons as to why their console of choice is looking good, then a good proportion of these games "fail" in the end.

And then look at suprisingly good titles which have surfaced like Boom Blox, De Blob or Endless Ocean or Bionic Commando Rearmed. I've gotten over that whole - guranteed good- looking game thing. You don't know until it comes out.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:42:21
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iga_bobovic said:
gamingeek said:

Conduit impressions

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/the-conduit/wii/game-features/impressions-the-conduit/

Although the game is fun, High Voltage has done a remarkable job bringing out the best graphics on the Wii, creating realistic looking textures and water effects. Characters animate well, the aliens look ugly and things run at a brisk pace. It still looks like a PlayStation 2 game, but considering some of the Wii's uglier shooters, this is a great achievement.

Gamedaily says that the Conduit has the best graphics on the Wii, but it still looks like a PS2 game. So according to gamedaily the PS2 > Wii graphically.

That's a weird way they put it. I'd agree that there's a lot of games on the PS2 that look prettier than most of what's on the Wii, like Final Fantasy 12, God of War 2, etc. But that's because there was a real effort to put graphically impressive games on the system by the industry's top talent for a span of 6-plus years and really push it as far as it could go.

I used to wonder how much further the Cube and Xbox could have been pushed if they had that level of commitment. Obviously the Wii destroys the PS2 technically, but unfortunately the Wii is also the only system that has ever had this philosophy that's almost anti-graphics and anti-hardware. Its like an excuse for lazyness.

Yeah, it is an excuse many developers are using. Most of these graphic pushers are put to work on the other systems, leaving the C-team to do the Wii version. Some games like Wii-sport and brain training do not require state of the art graphics, but the more traditional games could use the power.

Screw these lazy ones, Go Mushroom Men! This is the only more "traditional " game left in 2008. I am using the word traditional very, very loosly here.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:46:52
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edgecrusher said:

I meant guaranteed great games. Not Wii music and some of those others. Games gamers want, the people Reggie complains about. How many of those are even going to be all that great? That list doesn't fill me with the same level of trust that N system release lists in past years have.

BTW, Wario as boring. Couldn't get into it. Looked nice though.

Edgecrusher, in the past I would have agreed with you. But look at all these guaranteed great games that have turned out to be flops or not as great as hoped. Lair, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable, Force Unleashed et al. These are the games that people cite in forums for reasons as to why their console of choice is looking good, then a good proportion of these games "fail" in the end.

And then look at suprisingly good titles which have surfaced like Boom Blox, De Blob or Endless Ocean or Bionic Commando Rearmed. I've gotten over that whole - guranteed good- looking game thing. You don't know until it comes out.

I can guarantee that Sin & Punishment 2 will be fucking awesome. And Sasuke's has seen Little King's Story as GoTY.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:59:49

I can guarantee that Animal Crossing: City Folk will be effing awesome too. GOTY 2008! Woot!

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:02:09
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I can guarantee that Animal Crossing: City Folk will be effing awesome too. GOTY 2008! Woot!

I am so making a comic about your GOTY 2008 statement! Plus a sequel to mine Little Kings Planet = GOTY!

Hamster, if you haven't already download Sin and Punishment NOW!

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:06:32
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ravenprose said:

I can guarantee that Animal Crossing: City Folk will be effing awesome too. GOTY 2008! Woot!

I am so making a comic about your GOTY 2008 statement! Plus a sequal to mine Little Kings Planet = GOTY!

Hamster, if you haven't already download Sin and Punishment NOW!

Oh yeah, I forgot about downloading that. I might do that later tonight when I get home.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:10:55
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Edgecrusher, in the past I would have agreed with you. But look at all these guaranteed great games that have turned out to be flops or not as great as hoped. Lair, Infinite Undiscovery, Fable, Force Unleashed et al. These are the games that people cite in forums for reasons as to why their console of choice is looking good, then a good proportion of these games "fail" in the end.

And then look at suprisingly good titles which have surfaced like Boom Blox, De Blob or Endless Ocean or Bionic Commando Rearmed. I've gotten over that whole - guranteed good- looking game thing. You don't know until it comes out.

Fracture is another one, remember Euphoria? Wii can't do Euphoria, hence it's a last gen machine with no good games. Turns out Force Unleashed is a big disappointment, Fracture despite its morphing landscapes is shit and that leaves us with an animation system which barely anyone notices in the first instance. Again the only reason I'm mentioning this is because I vividly remembering people rattling off lists of games as to why the future of one system looks all roses.

Then when the roses wilt and drop to the floor, they just quietly dust them under the carpet and start hyping the next round of guranteed great games. Resistance and motorstorm were well hyped and Resistance apparently wasn't the Halo killer and Motorstorm got middling to poor reviews. Hell I've even been guilty of this, I was highly anticipating Red Steel's release and that was far worse then it could have been. I'm just saying that there isn't much point saying that the "big" games are guaranteed good and the little ones aren't.

When a game like Endless Ocean turns out to be as fufilling and great an experience as Mario Galaxy then I'm a pretty satisfied gamer.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:49:51

Poor Reggie. Can't please those ugly, hungry core gamers. They're the devil, I tells ya.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:53:34
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Agreed. Nintendo has released a ton of great games this year and last. I've been quite happy with Wii's lineup so far from Nintendo and third parties. I only wish someone would release some more good racing games on Wii; games that don't have "Need for Speed" in their title, for instance. Other than that, I can't complain.

You would think that EA would have done a double pack of the Burnout games GC didn't get.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:11:41
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Poor Reggie. Can't please those ugly, hungry core gamers. They're the devil, I tells ya.

Pink devil's I say!

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:30:52

LOL That Excite Truck box is going to give poor core Kirby explosive diarrhea.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:53:17
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An example of why I'm really not liking Reggie anymore....the guy has done a complete 360 from the way he was back in 2004. Now all he does is bitch about people bitching about Nintendo's lack of output these days.

"The gaming enthusiast that buys a tremendous amount of games is truly insatiable," Fils-Aime says. "As an example, in March, we launched Super Smash Bros. Brawl. In April, we launched Mario Kart. In later April, we launched Wii Fit. Then, in July, at E3, they say, 'where are the games?' They say they want the next Mario game. Super Mario Galaxy isn't even a year old yet."

First of all...Wii Fit? No, really....Wii Fit? Fuck you dude. Fuck. You.

Second of all, is this tool honestly saying gamers should be satisfied with 2 games that came out at the start of the year? Moreover, there's only 1 game here that could even be thought of as a AAA game. And if you don't like fighting games, party-based at that, you're shit out of luck.

Thirdly, people are saying they want a sequel to Galaxy? Say it ain't so! Other companies do manage to make solid sequels, sometimes 3 years in a row. But also, this is Nintendo's problem: They act as if all people want are Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Rinse, repeat. NEWS FLASH.....gamers would just like more games OF THIS CALIBUR every year. Not nessessarily sequels.

'While we here at IGN Nintendo were pretty happy with the Media Summit last week, Reggie still appears exasperated with the core market. "We believe today that we have shown a plethora of games and genres that can satisfy the most casual to the most core. Even that doesn't seem like it's enough."

Ummm....because its NOT enough? You showed a FEW good looking games, mostly niche, that will be coming out at some point NEXT YEAR. Meanwhile, people are looking at the upcoming releases on PS360 and seeing the likes of Fallout 3, Fable 2, Far Cry 2, RPG's....Shooters, LittleFuckingBig Planet, you name it.

Personally, I think its quite clear why you have trouble filling in the gaps, Nintendo. You have no 2nd-party developers anymore who would kindly put 3 or 4 AAA games in your winter release list in years of old. Now you're relying on 3rd-party scraps while you cook up the next Zelda, Metroid and Mario because, well, that's all we want...right Reggie?

I see what you are saying. It is very sad to see PR's going this way when they are winning. Remember how arrogant SONY was when talking about hardware especially future specs? This year definately seems to be weaker then the last 2 years from Nintendo. Here's hoping that next will fair better and that what we got out of the conference was just a drop of the....WAIT WTF a 2D Sidescrolling Claymore game!!!!!?!?!???? DAY ONE!

EDIT - In a way I do agree with Gamingeek I mean alot of these "hyped" games seem to be hyped just for the sake of it and turning out to be shit. I mean Killzone 2 and Fable II? Didn't the originals suck ass?

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steelattack said:

Poor Reggie. Can't please those ugly, hungry core gamers. They're the devil, I tells ya.

Pink devil's I say!

Excite Truck and Medal of Honor.....

Anyway I think you people don't understand where Edge is coming from he WANTS those big games geared toward serious gamers. So far the Wii only has 2 announced Capcom vs Tatsunoko and Monster Hunter 3. Other then that it is just a bunch of niche titles or titles from small and medium developers.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:59:54
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edgecrusher said:

An example of why I'm really not liking Reggie anymore....the guy has done a complete 360 from the way he was back in 2004. Now all he does is bitch about people bitching about Nintendo's lack of output these days.

"The gaming enthusiast that buys a tremendous amount of games is truly insatiable," Fils-Aime says. "As an example, in March, we launched Super Smash Bros. Brawl. In April, we launched Mario Kart. In later April, we launched Wii Fit. Then, in July, at E3, they say, 'where are the games?' They say they want the next Mario game. Super Mario Galaxy isn't even a year old yet."

First of all...Wii Fit? No, really....Wii Fit? Fuck you dude. Fuck. You.

Second of all, is this tool honestly saying gamers should be satisfied with 2 games that came out at the start of the year? Moreover, there's only 1 game here that could even be thought of as a AAA game. And if you don't like fighting games, party-based at that, you're shit out of luck.

Thirdly, people are saying they want a sequel to Galaxy? Say it ain't so! Other companies do manage to make solid sequels, sometimes 3 years in a row. But also, this is Nintendo's problem: They act as if all people want are Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Rinse, repeat. NEWS FLASH.....gamers would just like more games OF THIS CALIBUR every year. Not nessessarily sequels.

'While we here at IGN Nintendo were pretty happy with the Media Summit last week, Reggie still appears exasperated with the core market. "We believe today that we have shown a plethora of games and genres that can satisfy the most casual to the most core. Even that doesn't seem like it's enough."

Ummm....because its NOT enough? You showed a FEW good looking games, mostly niche, that will be coming out at some point NEXT YEAR. Meanwhile, people are looking at the upcoming releases on PS360 and seeing the likes of Fallout 3, Fable 2, Far Cry 2, RPG's....Shooters, LittleFuckingBig Planet, you name it.

Personally, I think its quite clear why you have trouble filling in the gaps, Nintendo. You have no 2nd-party developers anymore who would kindly put 3 or 4 AAA games in your winter release list in years of old. Now you're relying on 3rd-party scraps while you cook up the next Zelda, Metroid and Mario because, well, that's all we want...right Reggie?

I see what you are saying. It is very sad to see PR's going this way when they are winning. Remember how arrogant SONY was when talking about hardware especially future specs? This year definately seems to be weaker then the last 2 years from Nintendo. Here's hoping that next will fair better and that what we got out of the conference was just a drop of the....WAIT WTF a 2D Sidescrolling Claymore game!!!!!?!?!???? DAY ONE!

You can't expect Nintendo to say that the 3rd party's should step-up! Pissing them off now, would be a bad idea!

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:07:30

Telling them to step it up? Not really. Forming deals for them to make more serious games like the other two hardware companies do? Sounds like a good idea.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:08:32

Hehehe, Reggie said plethora.

To be fair, Fable II seems to be shaping up as the game the original one never came to be, but that's beyond the point. The thing is, the so called Nintendo core gamer is pissed off right now because they look left and right (meaning, Sony and MS's way) and they see huge amounts of exposure for a good number of interesting games of varied genres; all they get is third party shitty efforts between the few and far between high profile first party games.

And the worst part is, the system does have a number of interesting games so far (Boom Blox, DeBlob, Endless Ocean) that are overlooked even by Nintendo fans because the big N is doing a SHIT job on making those titles known to the public. It wouldn't be surprising AT ALL if a handful of similar games (i.e. good-to-great, but painfully overlooked) came out in the upcoming title batches only to find dismal sales and lukewarm reception, while Reggie talks his ass off about WiiFit and WiiMusic and WiiSHIT.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:15:34
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Telling them to step it up? Not really. Forming deals for them to make more serious games like the other two hardware companies do? Sounds like a good idea.

I know Microsoft does that often, it is probably too expensive for Nintendo's liking. I hope they are at least investing their money to hire and educate new talent, in the longterm this could be even better than making deals.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:17:49
iga_bobovic said:
punk rebel ecks said:

Telling them to step it up? Not really. Forming deals for them to make more serious games like the other two hardware companies do? Sounds like a good idea.

I know Microsoft does that often, it is probably too expensive for Nintendo's liking. I hope they are at least investing their money to hire and educate new talent, in the longterm this could be even better than making deals.

Too expensive for Nintendo? *looks at sales charts and yearly revenue*....let me just say that I HIGHLY doubt it.

And the thing is that they aren't educating new talent either. What was the last "new" high quality company that gave way from Nintendo? Retro? Good Feel has only done an average or slighty above average platformer from talks so they probably aren't one.

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:24:33
punk rebel ecks said:
iga_bobovic said:
punk rebel ecks said:

Telling them to step it up? Not really. Forming deals for them to make more serious games like the other two hardware companies do? Sounds like a good idea.

I know Microsoft does that often, it is probably too expensive for Nintendo's liking. I hope they are at least investing their money to hire and educate new talent, in the longterm this could be even better than making deals.

Too expensive for Nintendo? *looks at sales charts and yearly revenue*....let me just say that I HIGHLY doubt it.

And the thing is that they aren't educating new talent either.

Yes, too expensive, as in the profits do not justify the costs. As much as I would like it, Nintendo is not going to spend lots of money to buy support. Nintendo was always a conservative company, and they will probably remain so!

About the second point, how do you know if they are educating new talent or not?

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Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:26:30
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About the second point, how do you know if they are educating new talent or not?

They are. Iwata trains poker players with his unperturbed face.

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