Do you people live on lala land. MS showed GAMES, They showed RE5, Gears 2, Fallout 3... they annouced new stuff that gamers will actually used and they had the biggest megaton possible, Shut up about MS having a bad conference.  This is a bad conference, that was ok.

All the forums are down, neogaf, and GS...lol

ravenprose said:

Remember guys, E3 isn't over yet; in fact it's just starting. There may be mores stuff announced/shown in the next couple days.

Well yeah I think last year Smash bros wasn't even shown at the conference but had its own special conference.

punk rebel ecks said:

My thoughts:

The Conference: I mean really I don't understand how this is any worse (actually I should say not better) then Microsoft's What did Microsoft show? Mii Clones, A multiplat form game, and a new dashboard interface. If you were expecting all these new titles and what not then you clearly overhyped remember this is the NEW E3, now things are spread out throughout the event season (we learned this last year), this isn't the old bonanza-fest.

Yeah but they actually showed games, they had trailers and on stage demos. Wii has some 3rd party titles that could use face time, King Story, Oboro Musa whatever, Fragile, Tenchu whatever. This was a completely casual focused crapfest.

They could have at least put the focus on third party games, for instance they could have done a decent COD5 on stage demo and hyped it. There are so many unanswered questions:

• Red steel 2?
• Factor 5's new game?
• Retros new projects?
• Where is Kid Icarus?
• What is the zelda team doing?
• EAD Tokyo?
• Capcom's new wii game?
• Etc.

Hoi, sword fighting cool! The motion control looked impressive with the frisbee!

Sony save us!!!!! PLEASE!

yodariquo said:

Why don't we know what Retro, Nintendo EAD, HAL Labs or Intelligent Systems are working on?  There's this giant portion of internal development that has virtually nothing announced that they've even started.

No shit....its like anyone making real games doesn't matter to Nintendo now. Fucking Metroid Prime 3 came out a year ago, and they have nothing to say about Retro?

gamingeek said:

Let the excuses begin!

I can understand why nintendo are showing all this casual crap now. E3 is their main outlet to the mainstream media. A major newspaper isn't going to slap a fallout 3 article on the front page, but that wii motion plus thing or wii sports 2 could be based on this shitfest conference.

They should have just put the emphasis on the games we already know about, Monster Hunter 3, Final Fantasy The Crystal Bearers, Fragile, The Conduit, Rune Factory, Tenchu, MySims etc etc. and had demos and trailers and whateve of each game.

Apart from animal crossing this conference was complete BS. But there are still some games I'm interested in outside of this POS conference.

I hate this psycho woman though. She looks like a crazed sitcom character, only not funny.

Again....traditional games don't matter now to the Nintendo casual cash cow.

What kills me is that Conduit is so hyped among the base and Nintendo acts as if it doesn't exist. A game that hyped on the other machines would have been raised to a pedistal. And don't get me going on Fatal Frame....Nintendo's publishing it and it comes out in Japan like next month....not one mention of it. This is the closest Wii has to a new RE game, and no mention. Matt C. was right; they're gonna give it the usual zero marketing then act like they really care when its too late.

iga_bobovic said:

Hoi, sword fighting cool! The motion control looked impressive with the frisbee!

Agreed. Wii Motion Plus is the best announcement at E3 so far.

edgecrusher said:

yodariquo said:

Why don't we know what Retro, Nintendo EAD, HAL Labs or Intelligent Systems are working on?  There's this giant portion of internal development that has virtually nothing announced that they've even started.

No shit....its like anyone making real games doesn't matter to Nintendo now. Fucking Metroid Prime 3 came out a year ago, and they have nothing to say about Retro?

gamingeek said:

Let the excuses begin!

I can understand why nintendo are showing all this casual crap now. E3 is their main outlet to the mainstream media. A major newspaper isn't going to slap a fallout 3 article on the front page, but that wii motion plus thing or wii sports 2 could be based on this shitfest conference.

They should have just put the emphasis on the games we already know about, Monster Hunter 3, Final Fantasy The Crystal Bearers, Fragile, The Conduit, Rune Factory, Tenchu, MySims etc etc. and had demos and trailers and whateve of each game.

Apart from animal crossing this conference was complete BS. But there are still some games I'm interested in outside of this POS conference.

I hate this psycho woman though. She looks like a crazed sitcom character, only not funny.

Again....traditional games don't matter now to the Nintendo casual cash cow.

What kills me is that Conduit is so hyped among the base and Nintendo acts as if it doesn't exist. A game that hyped on the other machines would have been raised to a pedistal. And don't get me going on Fatal Frame....Nintendo's publishing it and it comes out in Japan like next month....not one mention of it. This is the closest Wii has to a new RE game, and no mention. Matt C. was right; they're gonna give it the usual zero marketing then act like they really care when its too late.

Well said, MS treats their third parties like kings, bringing them on stage, advertising their products. Nintendo pretends they dont exist. There are plenty of good 3rd party games, real games, that Nintendo wants to not be a part of cause it does not go along with their new plan which seems to focus only on the casual market.

Pah! I was half expecting a bad Nintendo conference. I was pretty sure that Nintendo's idea of a "core game" was not the same as ours, and my suspicion  was correct. I haven't bought a single AC game because with my tastes, I see it as a waste of money, and that's what they call a "core" game. To hell with that!

The Wii has some good stuff coming, so there's plenty of hope to be had. But it looks like Nintendo's E3s are now reserved almost solely for selling games and systems to an entirely different audience than Sony and Microsoft's. *sigh*

punk rebel ecks said:

dvader said:

Do you people live on lala land. MS showed GAMES, They showed RE5, Gears 2, Fallout 3... they annouced new stuff that gamers will actually used and they had the biggest megaton possible, Shut up about MS having a bad conference.  This is a bad conference, that was ok.

Yeah games (on other consoles) that have been announced and shown for months, how is a press conference that's main draw is new reveals does that matter?

I agree with you both. MS shows games that we have known about for months, if not years. The only suprising thing was the FF13 announcement and that is multiformat game. However they actually focused on the content and did a conference for gamers to highlight some titles and features.

There are tons of projects or potential projects on Wii that they could have highlighted and done the same thing as MS. They could have shown FFCC, or Fragile or Monster Hunter 3, or EA's litany of new games. But instead they chose to highlight things that would gain them mindshare with the mainstream media that will sexplode over wii music or wii sports 2. Remember how we all cringed when wii tennis was demoed for the first time? Or the silence when wii fit was shown? Look at what happened with those titles, look what happened to brain training or nintendogs.

Like last years E3 there are still games coming, Dvader I feel the same in that the conference was personally for me, shit. But at the same time you can't view the conference as a buying guide as to what lies in store for the console's future as we already know that there are many more already announced games or unamed projects to come.