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Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:42:50
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I've been watching that new Discovery Channel show about becoming a Green Beret, and it's amazing what these guys go through to become one.

First of all, I was surprised that a lot of these soldiers aren't big, huge, buff dudes like Jesse Ventura (who was an ex-Seal) but they were just average looking guys.

Most of the tests were not just about their pyshical endurance, but it was more about their mental strength and intelligence. I guess the training was designed to break them and to see who can endure it or find a way to stay strong until the end.

Seeing Bear Grylls, who is a Colonel for the S.A.S., and the new show Man Woman Wild with Myke Hawke, who's a Captain for the Special Forces, Grylls and Hawke don't look like the super human Gears of War type of beasts we all think that make up Special Forces teams like in the movies and video games we play. But they're just average looking guys with average builds. But they're super intelligent, highly skilled, and mentally tough.

I think that's what makes them stand out above normal soldiers. They have to excel at everything. But I think Bear Grylls is an exception. He's a real-life super man!

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Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:57:19
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Haven't seen it, have no opinion, but I'll point out that under no circumstance would that show ever portray them in anything other than a glowingly positive light.

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Mon, 16 Aug 2010 04:58:45
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Gotta have a lot of metal strength to carry out the sort of missions the special forces do.

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Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:54:04
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I still can't get over this. I used to enjoy his shows but I flat out can't watch it anymore.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-471510/Latest-TV-fake-scenes-Grizzly-attack-survival-man-fancy-dress-bear-costume.html

Latest TV fake scenes: 'Grizzly attack' on survival show was man in fancy-dress bear costume

To the viewers, it was the moment TV adventurer Bear Grylls narrowly escaped the attentions of a hungry wild bear.

Yet it seems he was not in quite as much danger as those watching might have thought.

Grylls was menaced by nothing more threatening than a colleague in a fancy-dress bear costume, according to a survival expert present at the filming.

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Grylls, whose daredevil antics have entranced viewers of his Channel 4 series Born Survivor, had filmed a sequence for another show in which his makeshift camp seemed to be invaded by a grizzly bear in the middle of the night.

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Born Survivor

Bear-faced fraud: A colleague on Channel 4 series 'Born Survivor' dressed in a fancy-dress bear costume

Born Survivor

The Discovery Channel, which aired the show, insisted the pantomine bear outfit was hired 'as a prank'

Born Survivor

Bear Grylls in his makeshift shelter for the Discovery programme

Apparently in great danger, he bravely filmed a black shape rustling around the embers of his campfire, before telling viewers of the dangers of wild bears and fleeing the camp.

Yet survival expert Ron Hood has claimed the black shape seen in the show was not a man-eating grizzly but actually a colleague in a costume.

The Discovery Channel, which aired the show, insisted that the pantomime bear outfit was hired "as a prank" by the crew and no footage which included the bear costume was broadcast.

But the programme does include a shot of a dark black shape, rustling in the camp a few feet away - something Discovery was unable to explain.

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The makers of the show originally tried to hire a tame bear but the plan fell through

Mr Hood, who was hired by producers Diverse TV as an adviser for the show, said the makers originally tried to hire a tame bear, but asked him to find a fancy-dress costume when the plan fell through.

And while viewers are led to believe the 'bear' incident is spontaneous, the scene was scripted long in advance. The Mail on Sunday has obtained a script in which the scene is headlined 'Grizzly Attacks Camp'.

The stunt was filmed for Grylls's Discovery Channel series Man Vs Wild, broadcast last October, in which the Eton-educated former SAS Territorial Army soldier is parachuted into remote regions to survive off the land for five days.

Some episodes were also broadcast on Channel 4 as Bear Grylls: Born Survivor, but not the one featuring the bear incident, which was set in the Rocky Mountains.

Channel 4 began an investigation last week after it emerged that Grylls does not sleep rough in the woods, as is claimed in the show, but instead stays in hotels.

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Grylls on his 'self-made' raft in an episode of 'Born Survivor'

The Rocky Mountain programme features several scenes which Discovery admitted were "not natural to the environment".

They included scenes where Grylls apparently killed a snake and ate it (the snake was found dead by the side of the road), cooked a dead badger (actually a steak inside a badger skin), and freed himself when his parachute tangled in a tree (he was pulled up into the tree and wore a safety harness).

But the bear scene was the show's moment of high drama.

Grylls sets up viewers' anticipation by explaining how he has pitched camp, building a shelter in an area of forest packed with grizzly bears ? a species, he makes clear, which is known to attack and kill humans.

The next scene shows Grylls - whose real first name is Edward - hiding in his shelter, full of fear in the darkness, as he speaks into the mike of a hand-held camera.

"There's definitely something out here," he says.

"I just heard a really heavy footstep out there, and I don't know..."

There is rustling and scraping around the shelter.

"I don't like this at all. I don't like this," he says.

The tension builds as Grylls crawls out of his shelter and films a black shadow moving a few yards away. Back inside the shelter, Grylls says: "I haven't heard from it now for a few minutes. And it might well have just moved away, but sure as hell it knows I'm here. And it knows I've hidden food here.

"And I don't know a huge amount about bears but what I do know is that if they come into your camp and they see you there, you need to clear that camp, and fast."

He scurries out of his shelter, pulls on his pack and leaves.

Yet the only thing Grylls was in danger of, according to Mr Hood, was bumping into his film crew.

Mr Hood said the mysterious shape was actually a crew member wearing the bear suit.

"They decided they wanted to somehow dramatise the attack on Edward's shelter," Mr Hood said.

"They filmed the crew shaking the shelter to give the impression that the bear was coming in and then they put the bear's nose in through the side of the shelter which Edward filmed.

"Everyone thought it was all quite funny, but we spent all evening working on it. They were quite serious about it."

An early script shows how the producers conceived the scene, titled 'Scene 10 - Grizzly Attacks Camp'.

It gives directions: "Bear...wakes up in the middle of the night when he hears a loud noise. The camera watches him just as he wonders what the noise is. This will have to look like video diary hand-held.

"The camera peeks out of the shelter and in the darkness we see a movement in the bushes, a roar and somethying (sic) rip the food bagh [sic] from the tree. The pictures will be treated to look like night vision."

Most of the footage was not used, but the sounds of shuffling in the woods was the film crew, Mr Hood said, and the dark black shape was the crew member in the bear outfit.

Last week it was revealed that episodes of Born Survivor screened on Channel 4 included faked or set-up scenes. One showed Grylls making his own raft while stuck on a desert island.

In fact it was built by a team led by a survival expert, and the island was in Hawaii - within close reach of a motel.

A spokesman for Discovery said: "The pranks that were filmed were just that, they were never intended for air, nor did they make the final cut.

"Essential health and safety precautions and incidents which were not natural to the environment will in future be completely transparent, with all elements of the filming being explained to viewers.


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Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:59:01
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^^ GG, you don't really like Bear Grylls that much, do you?

Well, cheating or not, he still kicks arse and is very skillful at what he does. Not many people can do some of the crazy stuff he does.

I'm still a big fan! Happy

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^^ GG, you don't really like Bear Grylls that much, do you?

Well, cheating or not, he still kicks arse and is very skillful at what he does. Not many people can do some of the crazy stuff he does.

I'm still a big fan! Happy

It's not that I don't like him, I guess I don't like the whole production of the show. I feel like a kid who was just told that wrestling was all staged. I believed it to be true and now I can't watch it without thinking it's fake. They betrayed my trust I guess.

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Did you read the story above? They hid a beef steak inside a dead badger and then Bear Grylls pretended he was eating dead badger when it was just a beef steak.

I mean, Jesus!

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I don't know. Are you sure all of this is true or just bad rumors?


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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:32:50
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gamingeek said:

Did you read the story above? They hid a beef steak inside a dead badger and then Bear Grylls pretended he was eating dead badger when it was just a beef steak.

I mean, Jesus!

They hid a beef steak INSIDE a dead badger? And he still ate it? LOL That's still effing nasty!

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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:16:22
Come on guys, you wouldn't want to bump into a film crew out in the wild, would you? They could have been from a rival broadcaster!

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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:03:20
I hate Top Gear.

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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:33:45

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I hate Top Gear.

Me too.

HATE it.

Do you have like an austrailian version or is it the same as the UK one. Richard Hammond can kiss my ASS.

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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:45:48

gamingeek said:

aspro said:
I hate Top Gear.

Me too.

HATE it.

Do you have like an austrailian version or is it the same as the UK one. Richard Hammond can kiss my ASS.

There is an AU version, but I've never seen it.  We get the one with the UK weasels, like 3 times a week.

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Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:49:17

Three DICK heads.

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