But Iraq is a better place now... oh wait...
Oops.
You know now the UK has a new government, they are savagely cutting benefits and goverment budgets and raising taxes and cutting school support etc etc etc.
Meanwhile we're sitting around and they've spent like billions of pounds on wars in Iraq and Afganistan that the voters didn't even ask for. It's a bunch of BS.
Oh and 9/11, sad day. I still remember the insanity of it all.
gamingeek said:You know now the UK has a new government, they are savagely cutting benefits and goverment budgets and raising taxes and cutting school support etc etc etc.
Meanwhile we're sitting around and they've spent like billions of pounds on wars in Iraq and Afganistan that the voters didn't even ask for. It's a bunch of BS.
Thanks for helping us. 
gamingeek said:Oh and 9/11, sad day. I still remember the insanity of it all.
In my lifetime there is no bigger moment in terms of world events. Not sure if I ever want to see anything top that, it could be something good for mankind or horrible, I don't want to take that chance. It's true what all those people say in moments like that, you will never forget where you were, what you were doing and what you felt.
Dvader said:In my lifetime there is no bigger moment in terms of world events. Not sure if I ever want to see anything top that, it could be something good for mankind or horrible, I don't want to take that chance. It's true what all those people say in moments like that, you will never forget where you were, what you were doing and what you felt.
Reminds me of when Princess Di died. Not that I gave a **** I always personally never cared either way. But in terms of the media all grouping around some shock event, that was up there.
I was actually watching the live news after the first plane had hit the towers and then was watching live as the second plane ploughed into the building. It was shocking to say the least. And then when the towers all crumbled, it was insane.
Dvader said:In my lifetime there is no bigger moment in terms of world events. Not sure if I ever want to see anything top that, it could be something good for mankind or horrible, I don't want to take that chance. It's true what all those people say in moments like that, you will never forget where you were, what you were doing and what you felt.
The moral of the story that noone's gotten is that it shouldn't have been such a huge event. How do the "terrorists win"? By making their actions matter. It was a startling event to me, 13 at the time, not really thinking that kind of attack was actually on the radar at all. It was horrible that 3,000 people died, but the effect was the spectacle, not the numbers. 3,000 deaths in relative terms is insignificant to other causes. You are far, far more likely to kill yourself than to be killed by a terrorist. So by making it a big world event, and moreso by making it into an excuse to destroy freedoms and damage your own country and world, that's what the event. That's the terrorism.
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Personally it did not affect me greatly---especially seeing as it was overseas, but then (for a thankfully temporary period of time) Australian culture and society was greatly affected. :X For a few years there was a strong sense of paranoiya and hate floating around. After a few years it went back from terrorism to asylum seekers, though.
Dvader said:But Iraq is a better place now... oh wait...
Oops.
Tomorrow is the ninth anniversary of the events of September 11, 2001. A tragic event that should be remembered. What should also be remembered, though, are the events that followed. I'm merely going to point out three factual, referenced statistics, and the conclusion that can be drawn from it.
Assuming 1 million dollars in medical costs per victim, 3 trillion dollars could save 45,000 lives every year for 67 years. That's 3 million people.
Imagine what else could have been accomplished.
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